CC vs AFV question

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An AFV has entered on an enemy infantry location in his MPh.
Will this AFV be under +2 DRM by Motion/Non Stopped vehicule since it has moved in his MPh in the following CC Phase -same Player Turn- ?
(Vehicle is now stopped)
 

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An AFV has entered on an enemy infantry location in his MPh.
Will this AFV be under +2 DRM by Motion/Non Stopped vehicule since it has moved in his MPh in the following CC Phase -same Player Turn- ?
(Vehicle is now stopped)
"A11.51 CC DRM: CC attacks vs unarmored vehicles are eligible for a -3 DRM. A CC attack vs any vehicle without inherent manned functioning (e.g., Shock, stun, most BU AAMG) MG armament (including turreted MA ≤ 15mm) is eligible for a -1 DRM. There is a +1 DRM to the CC DR for every unbroken, unpinned and armed enemy HS/crew Personnel counter (+2 for each such squad) in the CC Location (and not in the act of Withdrawal) at the time of each attack unless they are BU . There is a +2 DRM for CC vs a Motion/non-stopped vehicle. An Ambush DRM (11.4/11.8) or Hero DRM (15.24) can also apply to CC vs a vehicle. A leadership DRM applies to CC vs a vehicle only when that leader is combining with another unit in that attack. See also 11.61."

The +2DRM would not apply in CC as it is stopped.

You might confuse a 'Moving' vehicle with a 'Motion' vehicle. If your vehicle has moved in its MPh, this makes it a 'Moving' vehicle.

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thank you very much von Marwitz!.
I was confused with Moving vehicle. Thanks a lot for your quick reply.
 

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If your vehicle has moved in its MPh, this makes it a 'Moving' vehicle.
Technically, it is a "moving target" if it either began the turn in Motion or during the turn has entered a new hex during its MPh; and thus receives a +2 TH DRM when targeted by ordnance during that turn.

It is not "non-stopped" if it has not spent a start MP since spending a stop MP (or if it was immobilized/Shocked by fire attack). The status "stopped" or "non-stopped" applies during its MPh.

It is not "motion" as it does not have a "motion" counter on it. The status "motion" applies during all phases other than its MPh.
 

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Ole Boe wrote a very good article on this issue in the 1996 Annual called: Stop and Go Traffic: Moving, Motion, and Non-Stopped Status
 

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Ole Boe wrote a very good article on this issue in the 1996 Annual called: Stop and Go Traffic: Moving, Motion, and Non-Stopped Status
The rules on rolling for motion attempts has changed since this was written as I recall. -- jim
 

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Yes, they did change with ASLRBv2. The article is still good and mostly error free. It is well worth reading and will clear up a lot of issues.
 

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Yes, they did change with ASLRBv2. The article is still good and mostly error free. It is well worth reading and will clear up a lot of issues.
I agree, it is a good article. I would have posted much of what you added but I was on my mobile. I hate typing on that thing. -- jim
 
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