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Hi All (and in particular Paul)
The unsung hero of the battle of France! THE PANZER II (OFTEN AN "F" MODEL) was stated in a magazine article the other day yet this is not the ASL experience - this comment was stimulated by my getting the new French module and in particular the river crossing Dinant - though as a tread head I realise that they did not cross rivers with tanks (they sank!)
The say 40-50% of the Panzer Divisions were made up of this little tank they call the workhorse - 3+ light platoons per company so 100's in the Panzer Divisions 3, 4, 7 and 10 that we play when we play France 1940!!! but where are they - they were meant to swarm in groups of 12-24 and overwhelm French positions - show me an ASL scenario representing that!
Why am I troubled as a tread head seeking that rumbling tank experience of PZIIs.
Well.... ASL had lots of Games where there is a dozen + T34's, Shermans and Mk4's which swarm away in 44 and 45 and makes lots of sense - there are also Tank heavy games in the Desert! etc (PZIIs did poorly in the desert due to dust etc so I am ok with not many there)
Sure we have lots of Games with 2 or 3 PzIIs but always like recon vehicles they have their heavier PzIIIF and PzIVC friends to help them - yet they were the main tank in a Panzer division not a recon vehicle
I did the big search - nothing official from MMP beyond a 5 PzII tank game (with lots of other tanks) - my only sucess came from CH including (a) Bitter Tag had a Monster with 12 PzIIF's in amongst lots of tanks (b) Stone Heights no 6 and 7 both had 8 and 6 PzII's respectively and - and I looked at all the old LeFT (particularly LeFT #11), Vae Victicus, Tactiques (Tac 33 had 5), Fanatic Enterprises as well as lots of random ones. I searched scenario archive, ROAR and just google but alas for the main tank of a Panzer division we just don't see the swarm that supposedly historically occurred! AND I MISS THE FEELING!
Does anyone know why Tread Heads are deprived that experience ?
Thanks in advance for your comments
Cheers
Rob
The unsung hero of the battle of France! THE PANZER II (OFTEN AN "F" MODEL) was stated in a magazine article the other day yet this is not the ASL experience - this comment was stimulated by my getting the new French module and in particular the river crossing Dinant - though as a tread head I realise that they did not cross rivers with tanks (they sank!)
The say 40-50% of the Panzer Divisions were made up of this little tank they call the workhorse - 3+ light platoons per company so 100's in the Panzer Divisions 3, 4, 7 and 10 that we play when we play France 1940!!! but where are they - they were meant to swarm in groups of 12-24 and overwhelm French positions - show me an ASL scenario representing that!
Why am I troubled as a tread head seeking that rumbling tank experience of PZIIs.
Well.... ASL had lots of Games where there is a dozen + T34's, Shermans and Mk4's which swarm away in 44 and 45 and makes lots of sense - there are also Tank heavy games in the Desert! etc (PZIIs did poorly in the desert due to dust etc so I am ok with not many there)
Sure we have lots of Games with 2 or 3 PzIIs but always like recon vehicles they have their heavier PzIIIF and PzIVC friends to help them - yet they were the main tank in a Panzer division not a recon vehicle
I did the big search - nothing official from MMP beyond a 5 PzII tank game (with lots of other tanks) - my only sucess came from CH including (a) Bitter Tag had a Monster with 12 PzIIF's in amongst lots of tanks (b) Stone Heights no 6 and 7 both had 8 and 6 PzII's respectively and - and I looked at all the old LeFT (particularly LeFT #11), Vae Victicus, Tactiques (Tac 33 had 5), Fanatic Enterprises as well as lots of random ones. I searched scenario archive, ROAR and just google but alas for the main tank of a Panzer division we just don't see the swarm that supposedly historically occurred! AND I MISS THE FEELING!
Does anyone know why Tread Heads are deprived that experience ?
Thanks in advance for your comments
Cheers
Rob
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