What? You shut your sassy mouth! :angry:The fact that you hated them is how you know they were greats. I hated John Riggins. I hate Tom Brady. -- jim
He's man pretty!
What? You shut your sassy mouth! :angry:The fact that you hated them is how you know they were greats. I hated John Riggins. I hate Tom Brady. -- jim
The coach started hollering at him and later had to be restrained. He was hollering back saying he made the right read on the play and the defender just made a great play (combined with the fact that the young WR didn't go for the ball and let it come to him). But don't let that stand in your way of another good rant about the Pats.Somewhat interested with the exchange he had with one of the coaching teams on the sidelines a couple of weeks ago. It told me that he's not used enough to things not going his way.
Ah, so what you're saying is that he is, in fact, infallible.The coach started hollering at him and later had to be restrained. He was hollering back saying he made the right read on the play and the defender just made a great play (combined with the fact that the young WR didn't go for the ball and let it come to him). But don't let that stand in your way of another good rant about the Pats.
No he isn't. Just saying that he was defending his choice of where to throw the pass. The coach was wrong once he had to be restrained from getting in the face of a player who was sitting and not jumping up and yelling or going after the coach.Ah, so what you're saying is that he is, in fact, infallible.
Gosh, I just thought he played for a bunch of cheats...
Is it not the task of the coach to tell the player what to do? In that case, how can he (the coach) be wrong? Or is Brady too big to be coached?No he isn't. Just saying that he was defending his choice of where to throw the pass. The coach was wrong once he had to be restrained from getting in the face of a player who was sitting and not jumping up and yelling or going after the coach.
No he isn't but the coach had to be restrained. He started out kinda upset. Then they started getting heated. And then the coach started yelling. He wasn't just telling Tom he shouldn't have thrown the pass. He was yelling at him so Tom yelled back. Then the coach had to be restrained.Is it not the task of the coach to tell the player what to do? In that case, how can he (the coach) be wrong? Or is Brady too big to be coached?
Do you see anyone screaming like the QB coach (or whatever he is) is in this video? If Belichick screamed at him that's one thing but this guy? I've seen head coaches scream at players before and that doesn't bother me (unless the guy is foaming at the mouth like Saban would sometimes). That's ok. We all know you consider the Pats to be the only cheaters ever in the history of pro football (even back to only 1981)....because the guy who is supposed to be shouted at (unless extra deference is due to St. Brady) can't take it. Players get shouted at by coaches across sports everywhere, especially during games. Do you see players shouting back like this often?
Yeah, I have to agree. That's not coaching, that's being a prick. I have been yelled at plenty on the football field and sidelines, but good coaches get their point across, apply some corrective action and move on. A good coach doesn't create drama, he manages it with his players.No he isn't but the coach had to be restrained. He started out kinda upset. Then they started getting heated. And then the coach started yelling. He wasn't just telling Tom he shouldn't have thrown the pass. He was yelling at him so Tom yelled back. Then the coach had to be restrained.
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Most successful cheaters certainly. Not just the Jets tape incident (first time caught - no one will convince me they got caught the first time they were doing this) but the tape they got of the Rams practice sessions before SB 36. Yeah, not proven but not even looked into by the NFL.Do you see anyone screaming like the QB coach (or whatever he is) is in this video? If Belichick screamed at him that's one thing but this guy? I've seen head coaches scream at players before and that doesn't bother me (unless the guy is foaming at the mouth like Saban would sometimes). That's ok. We all know you consider the Pats to be the only cheaters ever in the history of pro football (even back to only 1981).
Most successful? The Broncos won back to back SB by manipulating the salary cap. The Steelers won 4 SB in 6 years by introducing steroids to the NFL. Not even looked into? Try this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2007_National_Football_League_videotaping_controversyMost successful cheaters certainly. Not just the Jets tape incident (first time caught - no one will convince me they got caught the first time they were doing this) but the tape they got of the Rams practice sessions before SB 36. Yeah, not proven but not even looked into by the NFL.
Yah. Think you have be confused about something here and that will be it.I'm sure you will change your mind.
No. You said they were the most successful. I pointed out other instances. They cheated, were caught and paid for it. So were the Broncos. The Steelers weren't caught but the league did start drug testing when it became a league wide problem.Yah. Think you have be confused about something here and that will be it.
All those other things you list makes what the cheatriots did all right...
The superbowls the Steelers won were pre history. NFL before '81 is irrelevant (made that point already). The Broncos won two Lombardis in the 90's and the cheatriots three in the naughties. 3>2. So, they're the most successful, and they cheat. I stand correct.No. You said they were the most successful. I pointed out other instances. They cheated, were caught and paid for it. So were the Broncos. The Steelers weren't caught but the league did start drug testing when it became a league wide problem.
Irrelevant to you dumbass Englanders maybe. And no I haven't seen a game of footy either.The superbowls the Steelers won were pre history. NFL before '81 is irrelevant (made that point already). The Broncos won two Lombardis in the 90's and the cheatriots three in the naughties. 3>2. So, they're the most successful, and they cheat. I stand correct.
Have you ever seen a football game?
NFL only came on UK TV in '81 yet they say it existed before? They were only setting it up ready for us.Irrelevant to you dumbass Englanders maybe. And no I haven't seen a game of footy either.