Vinnie
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This sort of behaviour is captured neatly by the massacre and ELR rules.
At that point on Guadalcanal, weren't there only MARINES ashore, or had the Guard been landed? At that point in the Pacific, for the US, I believe the brunt of the fighting was carried by the USMC.I didn't realize it was only Marines who were given barbarous treatment by the Japanese.
I don't know what point at Guadalcanal your anecdote is from, but there was really only one point when the "brunt" of the fighting was carried by the USMC. From December 1941 through May 1942, the brunt of the (American) fighting was carried on by the US Army. During the next couple of months there was no real land fighting by American troops (the real fighting in the 2nd half of 1942 was done by Australians, not USMC or US Army). In August, a Marine division landed at Guadalcanal and this unit provided the "brunt of the fighting" until November, when an Army division began fighting at Buna in New Guinea. Of course, Army troops had already been fighting on Guadalcanal in October. By December, Army troops outnumbered Marine troops on Guadalcanal, and from that point on in the PTO there were more Army divisions fighting than Marine divisions through the rest of the war. So there was only a 3-month period in the entire war when the Marines were doing the "brunt" of the fighting.At that point on Guadalcanal, weren't there only MARINES ashore, or had the Guard been landed? At that point in the Pacific, for the US, I believe the brunt of the fighting was carried by the USMC.
You did catch where I'm taking my info from, right?I don't know what point at Guadalcanal your anecdote is from, but there was really only one point when the "brunt" of the fighting was carried by the USMC. From December 1941 through May 1942, the brunt of the (American) fighting was carried on by the US Army. During the next couple of months there was no real land fighting by American troops (the real fighting in the 2nd half of 1942 was done by Australians, not USMC or US Army). In August, a Marine division landed at Guadalcanal and this unit provided the "brunt of the fighting" until November, when an Army division began fighting at Buna in New Guinea. Of course, Army troops had already been fighting on Guadalcanal in October. By December, Army troops outnumbered Marine troops on Guadalcanal, and from that point on in the PTO there were more Army divisions fighting than Marine divisions through the rest of the war. So there was only a 3-month period in the entire war when the Marines were doing the "brunt" of the fighting.
What, sounds too much like design for effect to me... are you sure devil squads are capable? Don't they break like dry twigs at a hint of incoming fire? :clown:but also am of the opinion that the devil squads are more than capable of handling and acquitting themselves admirably.
I'd say you had a point but then there are those samizdat books from the former Soviet Union like from Solzhenitsyn (GULAG comes to mind) that fetch a pretty penny at auctions. Of course putty "Wild Bill" in such vaunted company might be a bit of a stretch.It does present the collector with a unique challenge, but the fact they are hand-made and self-published kind of lets one off the hook in that regard.
That's the beauty of being a collector, though - you can define your own parameters to taste. Collection parameters have a tendency to creep though; you buy one WBW module, and before you know it, you'll have to have them all...when I started with cap badges, it was only the overseas infantry regiments of the Canadian Army in the Second World War. Then I needed a shoulder flash to go with each one. Then when I got a couple of armoured regiment badges thrown in to an auction, I figured I might as well pick up all of those, too. Then the supporting corps... I have a feeling you know what I mean.I'd say you had a point but then there are those samizdat books from the former Soviet Union like from Solzhenitsyn (GULAG comes to mind) that fetch a pretty penny at auctions. Of course putty "Wild Bill" in such vaunted company might be a bit of a stretch.
I should preface this post with the fact I have neither seen nor am likely to see any of these modules.
One aspect I was wondring about. Given the existance of semi-automatic rifles in a "modern" squad against bolt action ones amoungst the NK or VC units I can see the case for a FP of 7,8 or even 9 for marines against 3-5 for the VC/NK. How would CC be handled? Particularly HtH CC would hat not be a factor of men rather than weapons. AS such are we looking at modern ASL having a distance and a close FP factor?
I don't know what point at Guadalcanal your anecdote is from, but there was really only one point when the "brunt" of the fighting was carried by the USMC. From December 1941 through May 1942, the brunt of the (American) fighting was carried on by the US Army. During the next couple of months there was no real land fighting by American troops (the real fighting in the 2nd half of 1942 was done by Australians, not USMC or US Army). In August, a Marine division landed at Guadalcanal and this unit provided the "brunt of the fighting" until November, when an Army division began fighting at Buna in New Guinea. Of course, Army troops had already been fighting on Guadalcanal in October. By December, Army troops outnumbered Marine troops on Guadalcanal, and from that point on in the PTO there were more Army divisions fighting than Marine divisions through the rest of the war. So there was only a 3-month period in the entire war when the Marines were doing the "brunt" of the fighting.
It also established that some of the better Army divsions, such as the 25th, acquitted themselves at least as well as any Marine unit in the PTO.
Points well taken.Acquitted themselves better at what & when?
I am fairly certain that Army troops acquitted themselves better in ground combat than Marine units in the Phillipines in 1941 for a variety of reasons.
An opposed amphibious assault 1943 to 1945 to secure a beachhead in the PTO? I don't think so, the Marine Corps was indoctrinated, trained, organized and equipped to better perform this mission.
In sustained ground combat to defeat enemy ground forces after a beachhead had been secured? I think the facts support your statement.
Jeff
Thank you for the clarification. I had thought "high-numbered" and "National Guard" were virtually synonymous.The high numbered divisions were draftee divisions, not national guard divisions.
However, the actual issue is far more complex. Some divisions just performed poorly throughout the war, such as the 32nd Division, which was sent unsupported into combat at Buna and performed poorly, but was still performing poorly on Luzon in 1945. The 43rd Division was another PTO division that performed relatively poorly throughout (especially in its first action on New Georgia, where it collapsed). These were both National Guard divisions. In contrast, though, other NG divisions in the PTO, such as the 37th Inf Division and the Americal Division, performed well throughout the war. Both of these units, notably, had an easier introduction to combat than the 32nd and 43rd.
Overall (not just PTO), historians seem to think that the combat record of the draftee divisions was a bit better collectively than that of the NG divisions. There weren't as many draftee divisions in the Pacific as in Europe, though, primarily because early on a number of divisions were rushed to the PTO and the NG ones tended to be ready before the draftee divisions. The latter were later sent primarily to Europe.
I wonder if he claims the $7131 and more as income on his taxes? Should be since he is selling something he created, not an old, used item.Yeah, he's doing real poorly. Not counting current auctions, I tally up $7131 and change, for thirty modules, since he started selling these in January. On average, 237 dollars a piece. I'm not saying money is more important than quality, but I think he must be doing something right if people are still not only paying for them but making all these green comments about him. More power to him. Probably be a nicer hobby all told if people supported each other more instead of just tore each other down sight unseen, but I guess that's just me. I'll look forward to reading Mark's informed commentary on his website - weblink for anyone curious is here:
http://www.desperationmorale.com/worldofasl/worldfirsttofight.html
Holy moley! Price up to $330.00USD as of this post.
Praise Allah I am not addicted to buying ASL gear!
You've got name recognition cachet. I wouldn't doubt you'd make money.I should put some early 'playtest stuff' up just to see what it would get.
Remember, IRS offers a 10% reward of unpaid taxes for turning someone in who is secreting income:devious:I wonder if he claims the $7131 and more as income on his taxes? Should be since he is selling something he created, not an old, used item.
Brak śniegu w lawiny zawsze czuje się odpowiedzialny.Remember, IRS offers a 10% reward of unpaid taxes for turning someone in who is secreting income:devious:
We're still wondering in our financial ranks who turned in our Tyco CEO, Dennis Kozlowski. If you see me buying some of this "Wild Price" stuff, perhaps you'll know the answer.