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Double Deuce
09 Jul 04, 16:34
Here you can discuss your 4th turn orders. I will post your beginning intelligence information so you can use that to make your 4th turn plans.
TF 1-37
11 Jul 04, 21:26
DD,

Are we still waiting for OPTURN 4 beginning intelligence? I couldn't find it. Also, I noted that 4th Peacekeeping Co. ended up in Zone M instead of Zone C where I thought Lt. Gen Toth had directed it. Am I missing something? Did they get forced out of Zone C?

Col. Boomer (TF 1-37)
UN XO (in the absence of Lt. Gen. Toth)
Double Deuce
12 Jul 04, 00:15
Also, I noted that 4th Peacekeeping Co. ended up in Zone M instead of Zone C where I thought Lt. Gen Toth had directed it. Am I missing something? Did they get forced out of Zone C?
Based on intel (mainly from air recon) 4th Peacekeeping initiated the withdrawal to just across the border into M. Details of the recon will be posted soon.
Double Deuce
12 Jul 04, 00:35
Are we still waiting for OPTURN 4 beginning intelligence? I couldn't find it. Also, I noted that 4th Peacekeeping Co. ended up in Zone M instead of Zone C where I thought Lt. Gen Toth had directed it. Am I missing something? Did they get forced out of Zone C?For Turn 3 Information check out the OP Turn 3 Briefings (http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/showthread.php?t=8139). Actual intel for OP4 Start coming soon. Right now I just need reinforcements purchased by the other 2 teams. No orders need posted yet.
TF 1-37
12 Jul 04, 09:03
Does the UN get any additional replacements? I didn't see that any points had been allocated.
Double Deuce
12 Jul 04, 10:51
Does the UN get any additional replacements? I didn't see that any points had been allocated.Yes, you will actually be getting 200 points again this turn. They are restricted in what they can get though and we may need to wait for later in the week when I can be more specific.
Pannonicus
12 Jul 04, 18:27
For replacements I have 3 ideas:
1. Ukr. Mi-26 helicopters for strategic mobility. They can take M60s!
2. SP artillery, probably an old M109 battery w/o AP ammo.
3. An amphibious force, due to land in A - if we get the helicopters, we have no problem of this kind, we can just lift Marines there...

What do you think?
mr_clark
13 Jul 04, 17:09
For replacements I have 3 ideas:
1. Ukr. Mi-26 helicopters for strategic mobility. They can take M60s!
2. SP artillery, probably an old M109 battery w/o AP ammo.
3. An amphibious force, due to land in A - if we get the helicopters, we have no problem of this kind, we can just lift Marines there...

What do you think?

I would go for the Airmobile option.
Regarding Arty does the Ukrainian OOB includes BM-22 (currently have some probs so not looking myself)?
These would be really good arty (even 2 or 3 with ammo vehicle)...
Double Deuce
16 Jul 04, 18:34
The Security Council is currently reviewing your needs and requests. Forces are being aseembled and will be sent to the island shortly. You will receive additional communication once they are headed your way.
Pannonicus
19 Jul 04, 15:51
I dont think I can post orders until I know what replacement we got. My strategy could depend on it.
Double Deuce
20 Jul 04, 22:20
I dont think I can post orders until I know what replacement we got. My strategy could depend on it.Typical UN response, can't make timely decision to save their butt :D . I will try to get that posted for you shortly.
Pannonicus
21 Jul 04, 09:03
In my view, WE ARE the hunters, NOT the hunted. At least I have this gut feeling since the Ukrainians delieverd their chopper. So we are talking about optimizing our striking power, not about about saving our ass. Anyway, those political *******s are the ones delaying us, not our inability to decide.
Pannonicus
24 Jul 04, 09:55
Are we going to get the replacement? Until I have that, I cannot give the orders.
mr_clark
24 Jul 04, 14:03
Are we going to get the replacement? Until I have that, I cannot give the orders.

maybe we don't get any thanks to the Talking heads in Security council ;) btw DD said he is not here didn't he?
Double Deuce
25 Jul 04, 00:05
Are we going to get the replacement? Until I have that, I cannot give the orders.OK here we go.

It will be,
1st Ukraine SPA Platoon
...x3 2S3M Akutsiya
Pannonicus
25 Jul 04, 07:35
Thanks, I like it... Now we pretty much have a joint force with all elements of a modern force.
Looking at v3, however, there is a question: It seems to me that Ka-50 is not included any more, only Mi-28. My question is, if there is really no Ka-50 for June 1997, could we get one Mi-28 with the AT-16 Vikhr missiles? I would be willing to pay for all our remaining points for this change.
Double Deuce
25 Jul 04, 08:32
Looking at v3, however, there is a question: It seems to me that Ka-50 is not included any more, only Mi-28. My question is, if there is really no Ka-50 for June 1997, could we get one Mi-28 with the AT-16 Vikhr missiles? I would be willing to pay for all our remaining points for this change.If we go with V3 for Turn 4 then I will swap out a single Mi-28 Havoc with the AT Missiles for the Ka-50. They are no longer in the Ukrainian OOB at as as far as I could tell. The Ka-50 IS in the Russian OOB though.