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laszlo.nemedi
20 May 04, 12:12
Which is the best First Person Shooter game in the market, and why?
Two subcategory: modern time FPS, and WWII FPS...
I would like to buy one ( I have some, but dunno the best in the market now)...
Depends, do you focus on single player content or on multiplayer ?
For multiplayer try Enemy Territory, its 100% free and the best (IMHO) FPS there is. WW2 style, Axis vs Allies.
Other good multiplayer games: Battlefield 1942 (WW2), Unreal Tournament 2004 (SciFi)
Singleplayer: There are so many good games but for WW2 games try Medal of Honor: Allied Assault and Call of Duty, a good modern FPS is FarCry (needs a GOOD computer!)
Ivan Rapkinov
20 May 04, 12:27
depends whether you wnat realism or stress-relief.
for Modern CQB - SWAT3 is still the best, then maybe the Rainbow 6 games
for Modern War - Operation Flashpoint is the best by far.
for WW2 - Call of Duty is fun, and intense.
just make sure you install Punkbuster regardless.
laszlo.nemedi
20 May 04, 12:36
Thanks for the replies!
My aim is single player and as much realism as software can achieve...
I have the medal of honor series, but it is somehow scripted fight, I would like more free fight against intelligent computer enemy (I know it is contradict each other :nuts: )...
Have you tried the Road to Rome expansion pack for Battlefield1942? The bots in that are a lot better than the standard game, both enemy or allies.
Plus the many mods available extend the life of the game.
laszlo.nemedi
20 May 04, 13:52
Have you tried the Road to Rome expansion pack for Battlefield1942? The bots in that are a lot better than the standard game, both enemy or allies.
Plus the many mods available extend the life of the game.
Mods are new for me (I will look for them), but Ihave the Road to Rome, I consider Medal of Honor better than Battlefield thou...
If you are looking for a realistic modern-era FPS, these are my personal choices:
-Operation Flashpoint: really good, although the graphics now look somewhat outdated (being a 2.5 years old game), but the gameplay is at the same time serious and fun.
-Ghost Recon: good graphics, good and realistic missions with a nice geo-political setting. The only thing I don't like is you can't control your team as much I would like to do. And some people don't like the fact that you don't see your weapon, personally it did not bothered me.
-America's Army: this one is surprisingly good, and besides, it's completely free (well, not really, since American taxpayers paid for it, thanks to all of you!)
Although not a strict FPS, I am impatiently awaiting Full Spectrum Warrior later this year: http://www.fullspectrumwarrior.com/
This game has been developed initially for the US Army to teach MOUT techniques to soldiers. They are making a game out of it. It seems very realistic and fun to play.
For WWII, Call of Duty reigns as King, although its main quality (heavily scripted game that makes you feel like you were there) is also its main weakness: once you have played once, there is not much incentive in playing it again.
Medal of Honor was good, but it's getting old.
Watch out for this one though, it sounds awesome: Brothers in Arms (http://www.brothersinarmsgame.com/d-0.asp). Other info is also available here: http://www.gamespot.com/pc/action/brothersinarms/index.html
This is a realistic tactical shooter based on a true story (much inspired from the Brothers In Arms serie of Spielberg). As squad lead, you will be able to give orders to each of your AI-controlled team mates, and you will have to use realistic tactics. There is no blasting your way in this game. This one's a must buy for me.
laszlo.nemedi
20 May 04, 16:44
Thanks, I started to download demos...
MonsterZero
20 May 04, 20:30
"Far Cry" (screenshot below) is the newest and has the best visual effects. Overall the game is award winning, it got a very high score at Gamespot. Watch out for the system requirements though, they're steep. I think Far Cry is the last and most technically advanced of the current generation of games. Doom 3 (http://www.doom3.com/) will come out in a few months and send even Far Cry into the orbit. Everything will be different after Doom 3.
http://www.farcry.ubi.com/ss/Sunrise1.jpg
Alkiviadis
22 May 04, 13:00
Has anyone tried "Viet Cong Fist Alpha/Purple Haze"?
Is it worth my $s?
Don Maddox
22 May 04, 13:10
Operation Flashpoint is very good. The graphics are dated, however, the second expansion pack improves them somewhat. It's still the best game of its kind around.
The best looking is certainly Far Cry. The graphics are astounding (see the full Warfare HQ review). The game is pretty good, but my money is on Doom III.
Ivan Rapkinov
22 May 04, 13:43
Don: check out Virtual Battlespace (by the same guys that did OPF), and see how the graphic have improved.
viridomaros
22 May 04, 17:21
for ww2
i would say wolfenstein ennemy territory because it has a lot of team potential eventhough it is not very realistic
the main problems with fps is that there are thousands of cheaters and also a lot of bad players who starts to swear during the game and so on, very different from the spirit of the wargamer :D , i'm sure all of us don't have the same definition of a wargamer but i'm also sure we all agree to say it's pretty cool :cool:
CPangracs
22 May 04, 18:16
Desert Combat Mod for Battlefield: 1942 is fun, but not even close to being realistic.
Black Hawk Down: Team Sabre is amusing, as is Joint Operations, another Novalogic title.
laszlo.nemedi
23 May 04, 02:59
Thanks all! I started to download many demos... :nuts:
laszlo.nemedi
14 Jun 04, 16:35
I bought many FPS. :nuts:
In this moment I finished the Call of Duty... :nuts:
That was great I like it, but those damn stupid enemies whose just stood there waiting for my shoots...
The next one will be Delta Force Black Hawk Down (I already finished some scenario)...
Has anyone played tank simulations? Is there any good ones? Something was recently published but I canīt remember the name.
Ivan Rapkinov
14 Jun 04, 18:55
Steel Beasts is probably the best/most recent - I think Microporse had a good 'un too - but it's old.
Wait for Steel Beasts 2
Steel Beasts is probably the best/most recent - I think Microporse had a good 'un too - but it's old.
Wait for Steel Beasts 2
I agree with Ivan here. Steel Beasts is a great game. I'm not sure when SB2 is coming, so you may want to check that out and see if you can wait. It's apparently well behind schedule, but they keep talking like it's coming soon.
I believe if you go to steelbeasts.com, there's a demo for the original Steel Beasts which gives you a good feel for the game.
Take care,
Brian
CoD is still my favorite...with the new Heat of Battle (HOB) mod. While I like Wolfenstein ET, it's being free is both a boon and a curse. You can't beat the price of free, but playing with a slew of 12 yr olds who don't give a rats ass about what they do or say will take that great taste of "free" out of your mouth faster than you can say...oppps too late.
FarCry is the best single person FPS I've ever played and the worst multiplayer FPS I've ever played. All that in one game.
The new Mods for CoD (Heat of Battle, Revolt and others) do offer additions to the game. Some of the nice features of Wolfenstein ET (Medics, recapturable objectives etc..) can be found in these mods.
Has anyone played tank simulations? Is there any good ones? Something was recently published but I canīt remember the name.
I don't know what was published recently, but I still have a lot of fun with Microprose's M1 Tank Platoon 2. Problems is that the graphics and stuff are no more up to date...
This is an interesting mod to Ghost Recon that puts it back in WW2.
http://www.warofinfamy.com/download.php
for Modern CQB - SWAT3 is still the best
Yes. Damn shame that my new system doesn't seem to run it properly - although the framerate is fine (40-60) the view 'shakes' during movement or panning, some kind of 3D translation bug I imagine.
Real pain since I specifically bought the biggest nastiest system I could afford, little thinking it could kill some of my older games.
Oddly enough WWIIOL stopped working as well, same problem, not that it bothers me hugely since it was just a promotional try-for-free thing, and I have no intention of forking out money every month for a game.
Regards
33
Just finished playing CoD on the regular setting- it was fun, exciting & intense. It's the first FPS I've played.
My 18 year old son bought it, and it figures, I had to have him run one stretch of "Pegasus Bridge." I kept getting killed at one spot (like 12 times-bad quick save on my part) no matter what I tried I was toast. Him- 2 tries to get a feel for the stupid spot I was in and then- "there you go dad-ALL SAFE and SOUND!" With a **** ass grin.
My reply, "Ya, ya thanks, now get out of my chair." :)
Completed it in two days and was disapointed to find that was it. Although the end credit animation was fun to watch. I was expecting some sort of option setting to let you run around in the game but the only option is harder settings & MP play, may have to try that. Probably join some "the old guys" clan! :)
laszlo.nemedi
27 Jul 04, 15:09
Just finished playing CoD on the regular setting- it was fun, exciting & intense. It's the first FPS I've played.
My 18 year old son bought it, and it figures, I had to have him run one stretch of "Pegasus Bridge." I kept getting killed at one spot (like 12 times-bad quick save on my part) no matter what I tried I was toast. Him- 2 tries to get a feel for the stupid spot I was in and then- "there you go dad-ALL SAFE and SOUND!" With a **** ass grin.
My reply, "Ya, ya thanks, now get out of my chair." :)
Completed it in two days and was disapointed to find that was it. Although the end credit animation was fun to watch. I was expecting some sort of option setting to let you run around in the game but the only option is harder settings & MP play, may have to try that. Probably join some "the old guys" clan! :)
Maybe we can try MP, but I don't know what to do to do it.
Just finished playing CoD on the regular setting- it was fun, exciting & intense. It's the first FPS I've played.
My 18 year old son bought it, and it figures, I had to have him run one stretch of "Pegasus Bridge." I kept getting killed at one spot (like 12 times-bad quick save on my part) no matter what I tried I was toast. Him- 2 tries to get a feel for the stupid spot I was in and then- "there you go dad-ALL SAFE and SOUND!" With a **** ass grin.
My reply, "Ya, ya thanks, now get out of my chair." :)
Completed it in two days and was disapointed to find that was it. Although the end credit animation was fun to watch. I was expecting some sort of option setting to let you run around in the game but the only option is harder settings & MP play, may have to try that. Probably join some "the old guys" clan! :)
Multi player is the best part of those games, if you have people who know what to do and i don't mean keyboard skills but the brain to figure out you need to work as a team. Most kids just run around trying to get kills on the board without bothering with objectives, then they have the gall to call you a slow old fart cause they racked up more points and had less kills. **** for brains! Try out RTCW Enemy Territory, its a free download but only in multiplayer online version, its a good game to play.
Ok dispensing with the fantasy that ANY FPSers out there have ANY connection with reality, I strongly disagree with all the above mentioned games being "best".
The only good shooter out there is Battlefield 1942, simply because it has just decided to stop pretending you are doing anything other than an online form of splatball/sillybugger in the first place.
So what the planes move all the same speed.
So what you can leap out of a jet and then survive to climb into the command of a carrier only to ground it and drive off in a tank.
The graphics are good, and it is after all, just about you running around endlessly shooting up the place. Meeting with friends or total strangers, doesn't matter.
If Battlefield 42 doesn't suit you, then I guess you will just have to enlist and hope for the real thing.
I have not seen anything of any of the shooters out there, worth the effort to fuss over "realism".
BF 42 can be played endlessly indifinitely all day and every day. The game is not finite, you won't have played it a month, and then run out of missions.
And they made sure it was fun first, playable second, and just made the grpahics look great, not worried over accuracy issues.
Enemy Territory is better than BF1942 in my opinion, one reason: Snipers are weaker (no OneShotKills) meaning far fewer camper and therefore a far more enjoyable gameplay, in ET the firefights are far more enjoyable because your model can take some more hits before you are dead (unless your opponent manages to land some headshots or you cross the path of a Panzerfaust or RifleGrenade ;) ). ET has no freely drivable vehicles! While some BF fans might say that's a minus I think it greatly improves gameplay.
Et has far more interesting game modie with real goals to achieve (steal secret documents and transmit them via a radio; blast your way to an Axis fuel dump and blow it up; prevent the Axis from loading and fireing the Dora railway gun...) instead of the always the same capture the flags before your tickets run out of BF. ET has real classes, like medics who can ressurect and heal their teammates, FieldOps who can call in Artillery and Airstrikes and provide their team with ammo, Engineers who can build and destroy constructions and plant and defuse landmines, soldiers who can carry all the heavy weapons, CovOps who can infiltrate the enemy by stealing the uniform from a dead enemy and have silenced weapons. Also the classes have different weapons (Medics and FldOps have SMGs, Engineers can carry rifles, CovOps silenced weapns and sniper rifles, Soldiers heavy weapons), in BF a different class means just different weapons, the calsses make no real difference.
And last but not least: ET is free, BF costs money :)
Don Maddox
28 Jul 04, 12:40
Ok dispensing with the fantasy that ANY FPSers out there have ANY connection with reality, I strongly disagree with all the above mentioned games being "best".
I don't know about that. VBS1 is probably as close in the realism department for the combat it depicts as most wargames are for the combat they depict. Most wargames end up producing casualty ratios that are an order of magnitude worse than the real life events. FPS tend to do the same thing.
Menschenfresser
28 Jul 04, 12:52
I'm not sure it's a FPS in the true sense of the word but I really enjoyed Thief. Granted my puter isn't a 5gig hz Pentium X so I can't play all these newer games, so this game might have been vastly overshadowed.
Some of the levels sucked and I really hate jumping/climbing/swimming puzzles in games, but when it came down to sneaking up on someone in a dark alley and then putting an arrow between his shoulder blades, I had a blast! I also like picking up the bodies and throwing them in rivers, etc.
Never played any of the later Thief titles though...so I can't comment on whether or not the series got any better.
Kraut where is this ET game found?
If it's free I wouldn't mind checking it out.
I'm not sure it's a FPS in the true sense of the word but I really enjoyed Thief. Some of the levels sucked and I really hate jumping/climbing/swimming puzzles in games, but when it came down to sneaking up on someone in a dark alley and then putting an arrow between his shoulder blades, I had a blast! I also like picking up the bodies and throwing them in rivers, etc.
I have the original "Thief" and had a great time playing it- "multiplayer" yes multiplayer- my wife took half of the keyboard" skills" and I had the other half! :D
One thing that made it fun was that the spots I didn't like she did and those she didn't I did so it kept the game interesting throughout.
It also spiced up the game since we always had to agree on the "best" course of action to take. Not to mention all the "I told you so," comments after a bad or great move. :rolleyes:
We played 1/2 the game with it (the screen) in near total darkness which was harder than hell, (which we thought was correct) until we realized the "gamma" was set incorrectly. :eek:
Crawling around those frigging caves was murder in near pitch black. When we discovered the error we were quite pleased that we'd made it as far as we did half blind! :)
Yes. Damn shame that my new system doesn't seem to run it properly - although the framerate is fine (40-60) the view 'shakes' during movement or panning, some kind of 3D translation bug I imagine.
What kind of graphics card do you have and what is your driver's version?
Kraut where is this ET game found?
If it's free I wouldn't mind checking it out.
You haven't tried it yet? It's the second most popular online game to date (behind HalfLife and all ist various mods but with more players than BF1942) :D
you can find several download mirrors here:
SplashDamage (http://www.splashdamage.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Downloads&file=index&req=viewdownload&cid=7)
download the game, the patch 1.02 and than connect to a server. Most likely auto download will start and download a mod (ETPro is the most popular, current version 3.1.0) or a custom map. Attention! Due to a bug, ET might crash after auto-downloading something, there is no workaround, simply restart ET and reconnect to the same server, this time no auto download should happen and you are ready to have some fun.
To familiarize yourself with the game check out this website: ET 4 Newbies (http://www.planetwolfenstein.com/4newbies/enemyterritory.htm)
and later if you want to really start customizing your settings or are looking for advanced tipps&tricks check this site:
ET Strategy Guide (http://www.et-strategy.tk/)
I like the Rainbow 6 titles.
switch_back
29 Jul 04, 10:42
Give me Half-Life any day :D a pure classic, just need to wait for HL2 so I can play the Insurgency Mod :banana:
Menschenfresser
29 Jul 04, 11:03
I only ever played the original Half-Life singleplayer story. Loved it up until you go into the alternate alien world. Then it sucked. One of the best all-time levels/missions is the one where you're on the side of the cliff, walking along these ledges shooting guards above and below you. I must have played that section ten times....and died a thousand times.
switch_back
29 Jul 04, 11:23
I only ever played the original Half-Life singleplayer story. Loved it up until you go into the alternate alien world. Then it sucked. One of the best all-time levels/missions is the one where you're on the side of the cliff, walking along these ledges shooting guards above and below you. I must have played that section ten times....and died a thousand times.
Yes that is an absolute peach of a mission, im glad someone else likes it, I thought I was going mad, and I must agree that the alien bit was rather crap, but beyond that you should really try the multiplayer mods that are available :D , such as:
- Counter-Strike
- The Specialists
- Team Fortress
( Many more are available, but these are my all time favorites )
But if you do play them make sure its on a LAN, because the internet is full of stuck-up people who dont let you play on their servers with them ( even though they are open to the public ) and the ones where you can play are full of annoying 12-15 year olds that behave stupidly, swear and cheat. :(
Menschenfresser
29 Jul 04, 12:00
beyond that you should really try the multiplayer mods that are available :D , such as:
- Counter-Strike
- The Specialists
- Team Fortress
( Many more are available, but these are my all time favorites )
But if you do play them make sure its on a LAN, because the internet is full of stuck-up people who dont let you play on their servers with them ( even though they are open to the public ) and the ones where you can play are full of annoying 12-15 year olds that behave stupidly, swear and cheat. :(
I don't have my CD anymore. Gave it to my brother ages ago. I've thought to buy it again just from all the good things I've heard about counter-strike.
I agree about the servers. For a few months I played Unreal Tournament at gamespy. Eventually I found a server where combat was fun and free-spirited, but you are completely right. Between clans and cocky 12 year olds, online play usually isn't for me.
I don't have my CD anymore. Gave it to my brother ages ago. I've thought to buy it again just from all the good things I've heard about counter-strike.
Just my humble opinion but: Camper-Strike (sic) sucks!
Very boring gameplay, sneaking through the level for ages, short firefight and you are dead and have to wait until all other players have finished playing. If you try to play more aggressive you are dead even faster, killed by one of the 50% of all player camping at one spot for the entire game, every map, never moving.
BOOOOORING! :p
Full Monty
29 Jul 04, 14:36
Current favourite is 'Painkiller' - at first it plays like an old fashioned blaster but the further you get into the game (and if you increase the difficulty level) so you have to consider which objective you're going to go for, which in turn affects the way you play it. And there's no stealth! There's not even a 'crouch' facility! Superb!!
Cougar_DK
29 Jul 04, 16:21
My current multiplayer favorites right now is: Soldner and Joint Operations. Even though Soldner needs the next patch.
I must confess that if you are looking for a great singleplayer FPS the take a look at "No one lives for ever" and "No one lives for ever 2". They are two masterpieces of singleplayer action...eventhough you play a woman. These games has soo much humor and great moments.
( Many more are available, but these are my all time favorites )
But if you do play them make sure its on a LAN, because the internet is full of stuck-up people who dont let you play on their servers with them ( even though they are open to the public ) and the ones where you can play are full of annoying 12-15 year olds that behave stupidly, swear and cheat. :(
Imho these games all rock most on a LAN!!!
Hell, there's nothing better then to hear all the talking of your buddies: "Is that you?" and a Player killed a teammate on the screen... :D, especially in larger maps of the BF series that starts to happen quite often at four in the night and after 30 hours of continous gaming...
Imho these games all rock most on a LAN!!!
Or at least a voice com, eg. GameVoice or TeamSpeak, in-valuable is situations such as:
We three, two medics and one engineer, were attacking trying to steal some secret documents, managed to fight our way to the doc room, stole the docs and on our way out an enemy soldier appearer. We medics quickly took him out with our trusted MP-40 and just as the enemy dropped to the ground our engineer tried to help us with his rifle, forgetting that he had a rifle nade attached. The nade nicely bounced off the enemy and back to us, killing all three of us.
In situations such as this you simply neeed voice com to tell your fellow comrade how great you think his skillz are :D
The over riding comment, the only one that really counts, is anything to do with and or mentioning the actions/behaviour of "teens" hehe.
And of course some teens remain teens even into their 20s and 30s :)
I loved silly bugger as a teen. Dressing up in way to much cammo, way to hodge podge a "combat uniform" bought through army surplus, and then running around the sticks on the edge of town (note this is just not an option for you citified types :) ).
We toted around a mismatched collection of real firearms (also very unwise for city teens hehe).
And enjoyed the heck out of yelling "bang your dead man".
BF42 delivers this stupidity, and that really is all a FPS has to deliver eh. Trying for any more realism, is really just a bit to over the top pointless missing the point of the game so to speak.
At 42, I am I guess just to old to "play as a teen" any more :)
Going to download that ET and give it a look though.
But at the end of the day, I will likely be back pushing cardboard counters around hehe.
Rifle Grenade = Panic stick! But its the best weapon if you have to deal with lag.
Nat Mallet
30 Jul 04, 10:47
Well as far as FPS goes, Half-Life is a must. The single-player is exceptional, even by today's standards, but the mods available for it are just outstanding, with new ones coming out every month.
For the modern ones, Medal of Honor is very good. It's one of the best single-player FPS I've ever played.
Call of Duty is also very impressive. Some people prefer it to Medal of Honor, probably because the tempo of the game is a bit quicker, but I find it's not as in-depth as MoH.
I haven't played FarCry, but I hear its one of the best out there as well.
For multi-player, you have The BattleField 1942 series, which is a blast to play. There's also the Unreal Tournament series that's always fun, even the older versions.
If I'd have to do it all over again, here's my purchasing order:
Single-Player FPS
1. Half-Life
2. Medal of Honor
3. Call of Duty
Multi-Player
1. Half-Life
2. BattleField 1942
3. Unreal tournament
WWII FPS
1. Medal of Honor
2. BattleField 1942
3. Call of Duty
Nat
Dicke Bertha
30 Jul 04, 14:02
I have tried BF42 some online, I don't like the speed with which you die/respawn, it makes things extemely unrealistic. Also there is no way of playing with an ounce of realism/tactics; try give others support, you'll be wasted by some enemy helo, since no-one cared to support the guy who gave support... Then again, some of you might personally have experienced what it means when the message pops up: "Dicke Bertha killed a team-mate"! :devious: Area fire with MLRS is fun ;)
Don Maddox
30 Jul 04, 16:52
Doom III very soon . . .:freak:
Cougar_DK
31 Jul 04, 03:38
Doom III very soon . . .:freak:
Yes I can't wait to see it.
For WWII action: Call of Duty
For modern, realistic warfare: Operation Flashpoint
For multiplayer fun: Wolfenstein: Enemy Territory
Just finished Doom 3. I highly suggest you play this in the dark with the sound WAY up. The game was fun and had a great story. Sound and graphics will be as good as your system will allow. I plan to play it again on the hardest setting to see what different.
As for Multi-play, skip it. I've never been one for FFE and this is nothing but a frag-fest. Shoot-shoot-shoot-die, rinse and repeat.
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