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Hello,
I've been working on a Lord of the Rings type scenario for some time now, and I think it's ready for playtesting. This one is set at the end of the Second Age, when the Elves and Men of Middle Earth joined together to defeat Sauron. These events are shown in the opening 10 minutes of 'The Fellowship of the Ring', the bit with the 'Mexican Wave' of Elven swordsmen slaughtering orcs, and with Sauron smacking soldiers around like golfballs.
There's quite a bit to this scenario, so I've attached a zip file of the Player Notes for anyone interested to have a look at.
Let me know if you're keen.
Cheers,
Felix
Well you're other offerings have been excellent, and I'm rather interested in this subject matter. Of course having time to actually play the game is another matter entirely :)
Well you're other offerings have been excellent, and I'm rather interested in this subject matter. Of course having time to actually play the game is another matter entirely :)
Haha, cheers mate. I'm pretty impressed that you have the time to be playing two WW1 games, no doubt in addition to many others. Oh, and of course your normal full-time job, being married and having a new infant to contend with....... Is he sleeping properly yet? My girl was pretty good, usually only woke once a night for 40 min to an hour, then slept through from about 4 months.
Anyway, the game turns for this are very short, possibly disappointingly so, at least for the first 20 turns, maybe 10 min max, more like 5. If you're still keen, let me know.
Oh, and are you back at work yet? I'm just across the road from you, so lunch or a coffee could be on the cards if you like.
Cheers,
Tane
That sounds great mate - both the lunch/coffee and the play test. I started reading the briefing notes last night and got a bit excited about it all, so if you want to email me through the files I'll have a look as well.
Not sure about actually 'playing' the WW1 games, but I definately have them sitting in my inbox :)
Little man is sleeping a bit now, but we've pretty much had it all from him already. Nothing like playing a turn of europe aflame at 3am with a baby over your shoulder trying to burp.
That sounds great mate - both the lunch/coffee and the play test. I started reading the briefing notes last night and got a bit excited about it all, so if you want to email me through the files I'll have a look as well.
Not sure about actually 'playing' the WW1 games, but I definately have them sitting in my inbox :)
Little man is sleeping a bit now, but we've pretty much had it all from him already. Nothing like playing a turn of europe aflame at 3am with a baby over your shoulder trying to burb.
Been there - done that :laugh: Let's see how this goes forward - actually
would not mind a look at the files myself:yummy:
Hello,
I've been working on a Lord of the Rings type scenario for some time now, and I think it's ready for playtesting. This one is set at the end of the Second Age, when the Elves and Men of Middle Earth joined together to defeat Sauron. These events are shown in the opening 10 minutes of 'The Fellowship of the Ring', the bit with the 'Mexican Wave' of Elven swordsmen slaughtering orcs, and with Sauron smacking soldiers around like golfballs.
There's quite a bit to this scenario, so I've attached a zip file of the Player Notes for anyone interested to have a look at.
Let me know if you're keen.
Cheers,
Felix
Tane..
Have you 'up-loaded' this as a full DL yet?
Read your files, wan't to see your 'full download', eh? Maps etc .sce files...
Gimme Gimme...Is this in 'Playtest' yet?
(might sign on for 'just on more' eh?
Kurt
G'day fellas,
Raver, I'll e-mail the zip file through to you today.
Foggy and L'zard, e-mail me at 'tanewoodley-at-hotmail-dot-com' if you want a copy of the zip file.
I'm still doing some event checking, but they're working well enough to play the game and test game balance etc. Let me know if you're keen, I'm happy to play a couple of tests at the same time.
And thanks for your interest guys.
Cheers,
Felix.
Thanks mate. Feel free to pair me up as you see fit.
Request to your email sent, Tane......
Request to your email sent, Tane......
Ditto :smoke:
Hi Tane,
Sign me up if you have room. I might make a good "control" tester in that I've never read a Tolkien book.
Bill
You're on mate. I'll send the file off to you as soon as I can. The game turns should be fairly short for this one, especially at the start.
Cheers.
RhinoBones
15 Feb 08, 15:30
Felix
I would like to take a look at your scenario. Always interesting to see what is comming from the land of OZ.
Regards, RhinoBones
Felix
I would like to take a look at your scenario. Always interesting to see what is comming from the land of OZ.
Regards, RhinoBones
That's Enz, not Oz.
That's Enz, not Oz.
@Bill
Details, Details, LOL! 95% of American's don't know where to find Iraq, either! Hell, YOU had to help me find 'Philadelphia', and it took a while befor I could spell it correctly......LOL!
:p:p:p:p
New Zealand is totally out of the 'ball park' , LOL!
(tho I'll note that I've never seen the 'Enz' bit befor, eh? Should have guessed!)
Kurt
@Bill
New Zealand is totally out of the 'ball park' , LOL!
(tho I'll note that I've never seen the 'Enz' bit befor, eh? Should have guessed!)
Kurt
I don't know if Anyone calls it that. I was trying to come up with an equivalent to "OZ".
I don't know if Anyone calls it that. I was trying to come up with an equivalent to "OZ".
Who knows?
I'd imagine that most 'common use words' start like this, eh?
:laugh:
That's Enz, not Oz.
Thanks mate. There's 2,153 good reasons why Kiwis shouldn't be confused with Austalians. They're metric, and they each take about 20 minutes to swim (I think). So it's a fair paddle from Aus to here.
That's 1,338 reasons for all you Americans.
Rhinobones, I'd be more than happy to send you the latest version. I've sent you my address, reply to that and I'll send it to you ASAP.
And Bill, I haven't forgotten your kind offer to playtest. I'll finish testing some events that aren't quite working, then I'll send the newest file to you, probably next week.
I don't know if Anyone calls it that. I was trying to come up with an equivalent to "OZ".
We just call it 'EnZed' (very imaginative), which Aussies convert to 'Unzud', because that's how our accent sounds to them.
We have our own opinion on how our trans-Tasman siblings sound.
One way or the other, all Yanks want to know is:
Who has the better Beer?
:clown:
One way or the other, all Yanks want to know is:
Who has the better Beer?
:clown:
New Zealand, of course.
RhinoBones
18 Feb 08, 16:44
Rhinobones . . . I've sent you my address, reply to that and I'll send it to you ASAP.
Haven't seen anything in the PM box. Anyway, the address is rhinobones at aol dot com. Very interested in seeing the Last Alliance.
Regards, RhinoBones
RhinoBones
23 Feb 08, 20:22
You have probably heard this already, but Peter Jackson has been commissioned to do a two part movie based on “The Hobbit”.
After playing a round with your scenario I have come to the conclusion that it definitely needs custom unit icons. Would you mind if I use a few of WotR icons as a start for making TWotLA unit icons?
Am also now quite motivated to complete my scenario of Dagor Bragollach (The Battle of Sudden Flame).
Regards, RhinoBones
What exactly is Dagor Bragollach? Sounds really interesting. I think its great that designers are starting to use TOAW for fantasy gaming. The possibilities are endless.
RhinoBones
23 Feb 08, 21:30
What exactly is Dagor Bragollach?
Below is a quote from the Encyclopedia of Ardar:
“For more than four centuries, the forces of the Noldor had besieged Morgoth in his northern fortress of Angband, holding the northern mountain fences of Beleriand and their passes against his forces. In I 455 Morgoth broke the Siege of Angband in the battle that came to be known as the Dagor Bragollach, the Battle of Sudden Flame.
The Battle began one night in winter, when Morgoth sent out rivers of flame from Angband that consumed the wide plains of Ard-galen. Then came his armies of Balrogs and Orcs, led by Glaurung the dragon. They forced the highlands of Dorthonion, and took the fortresses of Angrod and Aegnor who dwelt there. Maglor's Gap was also taken, giving Morgoth an entry into Beleriand itself.
Maedhros' fortress on Himring held against the tide of foes, and so did the tower of Minas Tirith in the west, and the mountain forts of Ered Wethrin. Nonetheless, the Siege was broken, the Sons of Fëanor scattered, and the forces of Morgoth roamed at will throughout the northern lands.
As the battle raged against the Mountains of Shadow, Fingolfin the High King rode in anger across the dust of Anfauglith (the plain that had been Ard-galen) and challenged Morgoth to single combat. At the doors of Angband itself, they fought a great duel, but though Morgoth was wounded, Fingolfin was defeated and destroyed.”
Should note that this war takes place in a land which is to the West of Middle Earth. As a result of the war the land subsided and is now shown as an ocean. The Grey Elves, the Blue Mountains and Lindon is about all that remains from the First Age.
The WotR occurred at the end of the Third Age. The Last Alliance of Men and Elves happened toward the end of the Second Age, and this scenario happened toward the end of the First Age. So, with all these “Ages” floating about, there is still plenty of room for more scenarios.
Regards, RhinoBones
PS – Thank you (all the NZ people) for the support over the years.
Good grief! I wouldnt like to face up to an army of Balrogs and Orcs led by a dragon!
After playing a round with your scenario I have come to the conclusion that it definitely needs custom unit icons. Would you mind if I use a few of WotR icons as a start for making TWotLA unit icons?
I'm comfortable with the NATO icons, but I can understand if you think they need some amending. The Troll, Mumukal and Wagon train units could do with their own icons I admit, though I'm not sure how they'd look exactly.
But if you're keen to convert some icons, be my guest. If they look as good as the WotR ones, I'd be happy to include them in the graphics file with your permission.
Am also now quite motivated to complete my scenario of Dagor Bragollach (The Battle of Sudden Flame).
Regards, RhinoBones
Now that would be an excellent scenario. Good luck with the design.....
The Balrog unit would be interesting. I'm thinking of a modified helo gunship or something similar, though Interdiction and Combat Support isn't something I'd see them doing. They were definitely melee fighters.
Scenario sounds great,im a big fan of War of the Rings hope its available soon.
Ian
Scenario sounds great,im a big fan of War of the Rings hope its available soon.
Ian
G'day Ian,
Do you want to have a look at it? Or even playtest it with me?
Cheers
G'day Ian,
Do you want to have a look at it? Or even playtest it with me?
Cheers
Yes would be great to have a look at it,as for playtesting ive got the time but havent done anything like that before so not sure how much help i would be???
Ian
Yes would be great to have a look at it,as for playtesting ive got the time but havent done anything like that before so not sure how much help i would be???
Ian
Playtesting isn't any different to playing. You play the game, and let me know what you think; what works, what doesn't, do the notes match the game, do they make sense, are the forces balanced, are there any obvious bugs etc. Your opinion would be very useful in helping to make this a better scenario.
If you e-mail me at tanewoodley-at-hotmail-dot-com I can send you the latest version, and we can start testing.
Cheers.
Hi all i have started a hotseat game of WotLA but was wandering if any of you guys who have got the file would like to PBEM it with me if so let me know cheers Ian
Hi all i have started a hotseat game of WotLA but was wandering if any of you guys who have got the file would like to PBEM it with me if so let me know cheers Ian
G'day Ian,
Are you still keen to play? I've made a few adjustments, and I need to test them (and the overal gameplay). I need to play a game as the Last Alliance, so if you don't mind being the Dark Lord on his Dark Throne, we should be good to go.
Regardless of whether you can play, how have you found this scenario from your hotseat game?
Cheers.
Any chance of you setting up this latecomer with the .sce?
Any chance of you setting up this latecomer with the .sce?
Sure. What's your e-mail address?
DSHacking '"at"' aim /dot|com
Thanks.
Ok, a couple of ideas:
1. Label more of the objectives. For example, the Orthanc is unlabeled.
2. Give the kings of the kingdoms you made up names - anything you come up with will be more exciting than "<country name> King".
Were there hobbits in the 2nd Age?
Desert, I mangled your email addy so the spambots wouldn't get you.
Thanks for saving me from a flood of Lord of the Rings-related spam. :)
A Tolkien scenario? Sounds like I have a part to play in this. If you need playtesters, send me a pm!
Ok, a couple of ideas:
1. Label more of the objectives. For example, the Orthanc is unlabeled.
2. Give the kings of the kingdoms you made up names - anything you come up with will be more exciting than "<country name> King".
Were there hobbits in the 2nd Age?
1. OK, I'll go through and make sure all of the objectives have names. Good point.
2. Names for the kings will be a bit harder. I know I made the kingdoms up out of thin air, but I didn't want to go too far. I'll have a think about the names; I guess they'll be Germanic for the northern Men, possibly English/Celtic for the western Men and Turkic for the Easterlings/Khand.
There were hobbits in the 2nd Age, but they aren't mentioned at all. I think they're living in small villages, and fall below the radar of this scenario. A couple of hundred hobbit 'warriors' won't really cut it against a couple of orc warbands. And to be honest, I never liked them.........
So the hobbits are a demographic minority of Arnor?
So the hobbits are a demographic minority of Arnor?
Actually, at the end of the Second Age, when this scenario is set, the hobbits live predominantly in the Anduin Valley, along the river between the Greenwood/Mirkwood and the Misty Mountains. So I'm guessing that they're living in a fairly peaceful state with the local human tribes and petty kingdoms.
They don't make the trek into Arnor until well into the Third Age I think. I haven't included them in this scenario as they're not mentioned anywhere in Tolkien's writings of the War.
Thanks for saving me from a flood of Lord of the Rings-related spam. :)
Actually, desert, it wasn't the LoR mails he saved you from, it was the plethora of 'Viagra etc' spam.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
Turn your dagger into a longsword with Viagra?
Turn your dagger into a longsword with Viagra?
:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Better copywright that line NOW, you can offer it for sale to those advertising to the fantasy mmo game sorts!
Actually, at the end of the Second Age, when this scenario is set, the hobbits live predominantly in the Anduin Valley, along the river between the Greenwood/Mirkwood and the Misty Mountains. So I'm guessing that they're living in a fairly peaceful state with the local human tribes and petty kingdoms.
They don't make the trek into Arnor until well into the Third Age I think. I haven't included them in this scenario as they're not mentioned anywhere in Tolkien's writings of the War.
IIRC, there was also something about them not being as 'socially evolved' as they are in the LoR series....a simpler more 'inward looking' mindset, eh?
IIRC, there was also something about them not being as 'socially evolved' as they are in the LoR series....a simpler more 'inward looking' mindset, eh?
I'm not sure. You'd have to go onto MERP.com or another such fansite to get an idea of what people think hobbits are like in the Second Age. I left them out because they aren't in the literature, and I couldn't see how they'd fit in to a large scale war.
Well, the hobbits did send a company of archers in that battle where Arnor was destroyed.
Well, the hobbits did send a company of archers in that battle where Arnor was destroyed.
That was around the year 2000 of the Third Age, so some two millennia after this scenario. That sub-unit came from the Shire, after the hobbits migrated there from the Anduin. I'm not sure if a unit of hobbits would last long in a massive war with legions of orcs, troll cohorts and wargs rampaging across the landscape. Even the mighty Men of Numenor and the High Elves found it hard going, as this war caused massive casualties amongst the Free Peoples; Arnor was never the same according to Tolkein.
A Tolkien scenario? Sounds like I have a part to play in this. If you need playtesters, send me a pm!
I sent you a PM, but I don't know if you got it. E-mail me on 'tanewoodley-at-hotmail-dot-com', and I'll send you a copy of the latest version.
I sent you a PM, but I don't know if you got it. E-mail me on 'tanewoodley-at-hotmail-dot-com', and I'll send you a copy of the latest version.
Just sent you an email :)
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