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ETF
25 Sep 07, 19:06
Sry guys if this has been mentioned but are we still on track for a Fall 2007?

Thanks

KGB
30 Sep 07, 14:13
Sry guys if this has been mentioned but are we still on track for a Fall 2007?

Thanks

Let's hope, that things are going on well, but I doubt that.

Batou
03 Oct 07, 02:50
It would be nice to get some sort of status update!

Rhetor
03 Oct 07, 04:15
I would rather like if SES released a bug-free game this time, than having to restart Jutland campaign over and over again after each major fix.

Dear SES - should you need a beta-tester, feel free to contact me.

Haida
10 Oct 07, 19:46
Put me on the tester list too! :D

Behemoth
11 Oct 07, 23:44
Me three, what a troll I am, but seriously, I make great beta brownies.
-Behemoth

mbv
12 Oct 07, 09:44
The latest press release and info. on the Stormeagle Jutland website both say the projected release is late Fall 2007

Lempereur1
13 Oct 07, 13:29
KGB:

You have really become negative about us.

Did your girl friend leave you or something?

MajorDamage
13 Oct 07, 18:23
I'd always rather the devs took their time and got the game finished to their satisfaction than rushed it through to meet some arbitrary deadline. I've always got plenty of other games to be getting on with in the meantime.

Take your time guys - just make it good! :)

RCNVR
13 Oct 07, 23:39
When designing and producing a game it must be hard to decide you are actually finished because there is always something else that you could do if you had a little more time. I guess that at some point you have to say enough, but when to say that????

It must be a little like building a boat, you can always improve on something with more time and money. The only boatbuilder that finished on time was Noah as he would have drowned if he hadn't.

KGB
14 Oct 07, 06:24
Lempereur1, that answer was so negative because there were no news on the project, and the date of release (late summer-fall 2007) was already close to be passed.

I am not negative to you personally, or to Norm, or to anyone; I'm not negative to DG:RJW. My 'negative' posts, as you call them, are all serving one special purpose - to make sure that you guys really heard about all things you can improve in next title.
I know that you know what and how to improve DG engine much better than anyone, but I, as the 100% Jutland customer, want to get more and better product for same money, you see ?
:p

Lempereur1
14 Oct 07, 17:31
KGB:

We will be revealing more features in the next couple of weeks.

Some of things you see in the curent screen shots do not have the final updating, things like new shell splashes, reflections on stormy days, etc.

An estimated release date is just that, an estimate.

We will nit ship the game until it is ready to go!

Sincerely,

Jim Rose

KGB
15 Oct 07, 07:34
KGB:

We will be revealing more features in the next couple of weeks.

Some of things you see in the curent screen shots do not have the final updating, things like new shell splashes, reflections on stormy days, etc.

Good to hear it, Jim.
Thanks.

ETF
22 Oct 07, 21:24
Ok so sounds like Fall is out. No biggie just wanted an update. Maybe X-Mas :)

FastPhil
22 Oct 07, 22:19
Ok so sounds like Fall is out. No biggie just wanted an update. Maybe X-Mas :)

Why is fall out? I do believe fall lasts until the winter solstice? That gives us approximately 2 more months to wait. :stirthepot: And then we can say fall is out. :cry:

ETF
30 Oct 07, 20:59
Well since it has not gone gold I'm sure it is at LEAST 6 weeks away if not more??
No rush just glad to see it is well on its way.

Batou
06 Nov 07, 14:43
Could we get a list of some of the new features in Jutland, it's been a couple of weeks?

Daedalus
09 Nov 07, 09:49
When designing and producing a game it must be hard to decide you are actually finished because there is always something else that you could do if you had a little more time. I guess that at some point you have to say enough, but when to say that????

It must be a little like building a boat, you can always improve on something with more time and money. The only boatbuilder that finished on time was Noah as he would have drowned if he hadn't.


Talking about work incentive, Do it right the first time or drown. Noah and his ship that is!

Daedalus
10 Nov 07, 14:00
I like everyone else can hardly wait till the Jutland is out, but I do not want to push Norm on getting it done so he can have the game just like he wants it to be, and to be able to add in what other have brought to here in Ideas.

I do know one thing, I will be playing Jutland a whole lot that is for sure.
Last month I put a computer together out of parts from systems that I had left from building and rebuilding gaming computers for the Soldiers here at Ft. Riley, and I am going to put RJW on that one and the new Jutland on my main computer so I can have them both up and running.

I just hope the parts that I had for the scrap together computer will be enough for RJW, I think it will. And if not , oh well.

Batou
12 Nov 07, 02:09
I wish the developers would be a little more open on the included features, campaign etc. before the release!

KGB
04 Dec 07, 05:50
It is 4th of December now. No sings of anything happening to Jutland.
Norm, Jim, I've asked about release of Jutland for about 1.5 months ago...
Can you please add anything ?
I mean anything above couple of new screenshots, though even couple of new screens would be great.

Pre-Thanks,
KGB

Lempereur1
06 Dec 07, 20:14
Its getting closer! ;)

JebUSMC
07 Dec 07, 02:09
I'm not an insider or anything but I suspect our patience will be rewarded very soon.

KGB
07 Dec 07, 10:01
Lets hope that it would =)

Enforcer
12 Dec 07, 19:31
I just hope that stupid "random battle creator" will be replaced by a decent skirmish editor where you can choose every single ship available in the game you want to take part in it, including weather circumstances, sea roughness and so forth.

AND those turret turns fixed! This is a huge setback regarding realism in Distant Guns, since the rest is almost perfect. (I mean: that turret just doesn't turn gradually like it should, whenever you let your ships start firing the turrets just say "whooop" and in 0,1 second they are in position. I really think this should be fixed in Distant Guns, too. Shouldn't be too much work, I'd suspect?

The fires on the ships and the splashes could look much better and above all -less static- too!

But before you start gettin' tired of my complaints, let me state that Distant Guns, warts and all, is a FANTASTIC game! And I've already started pushing my friends into buying it :cool:

*eagerly awaiting Jutland*

ETF
13 Dec 07, 20:27
Well here is hoping for 1st Quarter of 2008!!
Have a great X-mas Norm and gang. Well deserved no doubt. Looking forward to the new year!

Fairweather
16 Dec 07, 10:06
I don't suppose there is an official revised release date?

rahamy
17 Dec 07, 17:38
Always best to not set a date...or even talk about a project until its really close. Too many potential problems during the development stage.

And sharing "enhancements" that aren't done can be hazordous as well...what if a major code glitch causes one to be ditched - after - it is told the public? Then no one is happy...

All in good time...

Fairweather
17 Dec 07, 18:27
Fair enough. Although I was hoping it was close. The best things in life comes to those who wait.

Lempereur1
17 Dec 07, 23:09
We are int he first round of BETA testing!

This is the stage where we fine tune, make changes as needed, add things as needed.

This is also where the bulk of debugging takes place.

A first cut at play balance also takes place here.

As always, our release date estimates are just that, estimates.

We would love to ship the game now!

But it needs a few more weeks.

Stay tuned!

Daedalus
18 Dec 07, 00:53
Fair enough. Although I was hoping it was close. The best things in life comes to those who wait.

Jutland will be worth the wait. This is for sure.

KGB
18 Dec 07, 07:28
We are int he first round of BETA testing!

This is the stage where we fine tune, make changes as needed, add things as needed.

This is also where the bulk of debugging takes place.

A first cut at play balance also takes place here.

As always, our release date estimates are just that, estimates.

We would love to ship the game now!

But it needs a few more weeks.

Stay tuned!

Excellent news !
BTW: As an experienced gamedev QA manager, I can and willing to help in beta-testing the Jutland.

Fairweather
18 Dec 07, 08:11
I'll keep my fingers crossed that you don't hit any obstacles.

ETF
30 Dec 07, 19:47
Well I would bet maybe for Valentines...........not sure if my wife would like this as a present or not :)

mart
31 Dec 07, 06:56
Well I would bet maybe for Valentines...........not sure if my wife would like this as a present or not :)

Anything that keeps us out of the way for a long time, would probably be seen as a positive by any sensible woman. :)

FuurinKazan
09 Jan 08, 13:14
Just let me know when you need my money. I was sold at the announcement.

Rhetor
09 Jan 08, 14:11
Just let me know when you need my money. I was sold at the announcement.

I say - take your time and weed out as many bugs as possible. There were way too many of these in the original DG release.

FuurinKazan
09 Jan 08, 15:15
I say - take your time and weed out as many bugs as possible.

I always thought it'd be a good idea to do a 'pre-release-release' as a public beta, and let the developers get a good final multi-os, graphic card, and driver survey of potential deal killers before the 'official' release. Of course, it'd have to be made aware that'd it'd be for testing purposes only, and that, yes, you'd get to purchase the game early knowing that you were volunteering to test, not to have a perfect, bug free product.
I think there's alot of games that would have benefitted form this approach.
CMSF, in particular, comes to mind.
but, I suppose the drawbacks would also be unwillingness of some to report bugs and crashes, and an increased noise to signal ratio in the support dept.

Bullethead
09 Jan 08, 17:12
I always thought it'd be a good idea to do a 'pre-release-release' as a public beta, and let the developers get a good final multi-os, graphic card, and driver survey of potential deal killers before the 'official' release.

That's one of the reasons we've been putting Jutland code into the RJW game the last few updates. Whether you've realized it or not, you've been beta testing for this sort of thing for some time now.

Rhetor
10 Jan 08, 01:55
I always thought it'd be a good idea to do a 'pre-release-release' as a public beta, and let the developers get a good final multi-os, graphic card, and driver survey of potential deal killers before the 'official' release. Of course, it'd have to be made aware that'd it'd be for testing purposes only, and that, yes, you'd get to purchase the game early knowing that you were volunteering to test, not to have a perfect, bug free product.


That is exactly what we all have been doing after DG was first released. After some patches it was necessary to restart the game from scratch.

ETF
10 Jan 08, 16:43
Is a 1st quarter realistic?
Seems more like a 2nd Quarter I would think.........

Fine by me. Sitting around the pool playing on the laptop!!!

:)

Tophat
13 Jan 08, 00:44
Almost bought Distant Guns today the only thing stopping me was a read through of this thread. On Dec.7th was posted a "it needs afew more weeks". I am wondering if Jutland is within the month of slipping down the ways?

Daedalus
13 Jan 08, 01:22
Almost bought Distant Guns today the only thing stopping me was a read through of this thread. On Dec.7th was posted a "it needs afew more weeks". I am wondering if Jutland is within the month of slipping down the ways?

RJW is a great game and goes along with Jutland that is coming out as I see it. They are both stand alone games but RJW is a lot of fun. You would not go wrong by getting the first one and playing it also. It puts a whole new look on Naval warfare as the time it was in.
On the time of Jutland , they do not release a game before it is done and I do not know when that will be. Jim Rose or Norm may make a post about it and if you look for there latest post they will have something about the date.

Heinz Fischer
16 Jan 08, 08:03
Yup, honestly, I think we can all agree that we'd rather wait longer but get a better game for what I presume will be our 60 ducks (although I should note, I don't make a big deal out of the price either - it's been more than worth it for DG!).

I think it would be very cool if a pre-release demo with similar features as the original DG demo was put out (which could be very useful as a sort of open beta for the game's tactical combat - think about it Jim and Norm!) - but hey, again, I can wait.

Rhetor
16 Jan 08, 10:13
I think it would be very cool if a pre-release demo with similar features as the original DG demo was put out (which could be very useful as a sort of open beta for the game's tactical combat - think about it Jim and Norm!) - but hey, again, I can wait.

And if this demo included Dogger Bank as a demo scenario, it would be even better :-D

Tophat
16 Jan 08, 10:41
And if this demo included Dogger Bank as a demo scenario, it would be even better :-D

That Sir,is what i would just love to see!:smoke:

bill44
17 Jan 08, 18:02
And if this demo included Dogger Bank as a demo scenario, it would be even better :-D

Or the battle of the Corenal or falklands :laugh:

Slider6
17 Jan 08, 21:04
RJW is a great game and goes along with Jutland that is coming out as I see it.

As a fan of naval warfare, I consider RJW a must, and thus far the best simulation of that period I've run into the last couple decades. Even if I had Jutland (my main interest) I'd buy RJW:)

As far dream scenerios hoping to be in Jutland...lol..I would love to break out the Baden or Seydlitz and wreck havok on Atlantic Convoys in a campaign mode! Too bad Germany didn't have a French port in WW1:( Okay maybe I'll have to settle for a bunch of battlecruiser raids on the mainland...

HReardon
17 Jan 08, 22:31
Howabout an alternate Coronel where Canopus made it on time?

Hood
18 Jan 08, 03:07
Or maybe attacking Goeben in the Med with the A.C's , instead of letting it get away - maybe we can save the careers of Troubridge & Milne (maybe at the expense of their lives though)

Rhetor
18 Jan 08, 04:56
Don't get carried away - I think there will be no battles from areas other than the North Sea - simply because there will be no map for them. In Distant Guns the astronomical details (sunrise and sunset time ect.) are realistic, and these are of course different at different longitude and latitude.

Of course it would be nice if the ships from other theaters were included in the ship database. I would be glad to have the "Goeben" in my BC fleet :-D

ETF
22 Jan 08, 20:59
My money is on 2nd quarter release.......Just in time for summer Holidays :)

Do though buy RJW it is a must and you will not regret it!