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I went ot the German Marine Museum in Wilhelmshaven. There I was really impressed by a barrel from the german BC Seydlitz. The barrel is from E turret and the hit it took is from one of the 5th BS I guess probably a 15". I was really impressed by the size of the shell. Unfortunately taking photographs inside the building is not allowed as I also had the opportunity to have a look through a artillery rangefinder from the Göben.
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Me taking a peak through the barrel
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Me standing next to the barrel. Notice the huge size if the shell compared to me. That really impressed me.
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And last a peak through the barrel
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I believe this one is shortened version of Seydlitz Main Caliber guns. I mean original barrel length must be 14 meters.
Bullethead
11 Sep 07, 16:43
That's COOL! Thanks for posting that up. I had thought that the only remaing heavy guns actually fired at Jutland were on the bottom of the North Sea and Scapa Flow.
And KGB, I think you're right about the length. The sign in the 1st picture says the original length was 14m, so I guess this is only a piece of the barrel.
In this picture you can see it clearly that its only the center piece of the barrel
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Some other pics from the Marinemuseum.
A german small Sub from the last days of WWII
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The last german destroyer Mölder. Put out of commission in 2003. Beside is a German Minesweeper
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Maingun from the Mölders (124mm ((5"?)).
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Main AA asset
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A German Bundesmarine sub from the 1980`s. As I walked through the sub I noticed that subs were not made for me as Iam 6`3" tall :D. The small boat in front is a PT boat from the German Democratic Republic.
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My daughter on the "Bridge" of the sub.
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And that made a lonely tear running down my cheeks :cool: (Also my Desktop Wallpaper) Taken on the aft of Mölders.
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Hope you enjoyed the pics.
That's COOL! Thanks for posting that up. I had thought that the only remaing heavy guns actually fired at Jutland were on the bottom of the North Sea and Scapa Flow.
And KGB, I think you're right about the length. The sign in the 1st picture says the original length was 14m, so I guess this is only a piece of the barrel.
Bullethead you wouldnt believe what is all left from these beautifull ships. I was also in the Deutsches Schifffahrtsmuseum in Bremerhaven. They have e.g. AA guns from the Göben and periscopes from German WWI Subs. And some parts from the Linienschiff (Ship of the line) the "Deutschland". Inside the Marinemuseum Wilhelmshaven there are Uniforms from the Kriegsmarine and documents and a original Russian mine from 1914. But as I said before taking photograhps inside the buildings is forbidden. I was very tempted to take a photo nevertheless from the Galleonsfigur from the Deutschland. But as there are running guards around I didnt wanted to push my luck.
Excellent pictures, Crinius. I guess that Wilhelmshaven has reached the second place on my "must see" list in Germany. The first is still Panzermuseum Münster :-D
Bullethead
12 Sep 07, 12:22
Bullethead you wouldnt believe what is all left from these beautifull ships.
Glad to know such relics still exist :).
Maingun from the Mölders (124mm ((5"?)).
Yup, that's a 5" gun. It's a 5"/54 in a Mk 42 mount. I was in the USN before I was in the USMC, and I served aboard a sister ship. Mölders was an export version of the US Charles F. Adams class. The Aussies had some, too, IIRC. My ship was DDG-12, Robison.
I was in the USN before I was in the USMC, and I served aboard a sister ship. Robison.
Classic case of dumb and dumber :nuts: What ever made switch to the dark side? My brother was on the C.F. Adams and the Joseph P. Kennedy.
That being said there are still only two types of vessels in any modern navy-Submarines and Targets. Emergency Deep:eek:
P.S. The Naval War College Musuem in Newport R.I. is small but has a very interesting exhibit on U.S. torpedoes as much of the testing was done there.
The Nautilus Museum(and it's library if you have access to it) in Groton, CT is also a good stop. The library although not open to the general public has a lot of good material on U.S. Submarines including the patrol logs of many WWII Submarines.
Bullethead
14 Sep 07, 19:07
Classic case of dumb and dumber :nuts: What ever made {edit: you} switch to the dark side?
Learning about then-modern (early 80s) warfare. From the time I was old enough to walk, I wanted to be a great pilot. Hence, my initial interest in the navy, who IMHO have the best pilots due to flying off carriers. So I tried hard to get into the USNA but didn't quite make it. Instead, I ended up wtih an NROTC scholarship at Texas A&M. This got me sworn into the USN, but with the option to quit.
Then I found out that since WW2, the most tactically significant weapons development had been intended to shoot down airplanes, and it was all push-button anyway, no dogfights, which made that whole field less attractive. Airplanes are always "on the skyline". But I figured being in destroyers would still be cool--my dad did that in WW2. So for a summer midshipman cruise, I got sent out in USS Robison. This was a lot of fun, especially because we were preparing to go to war in the Falklands (this was just before the US decided not to fight in that). Even took aboard cold weather clothing for that trip.
But while doing pre-deployment target practice at San Clemente Island, the ship nearly blew up due to a malfunction in the aft Mk 42 5" mount. At the time, I was in CIC, forward and well above the waterline, so I figured I had about a 50-50 chance of surviving the blast and making it into the water. But the water would have been covered with burning oil, the water itself was friggin' cold, it was at night, the nearest land was 5 miles away with the current going the other way, and there was only 1 little motorboat around to pick anybody up. The longest 10 minutes of my life were spent braced behind the DRT thinking about all this until the crisis passed. This made me realize that I couldn't drown on dry land :D.
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