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Bdr.Mallette
03 Jun 07, 19:43
Schvengee schmoogle.
Holy Cow, the muppet "Swedish Chef" has been seen in Stockholm preparing to get ready for WAR!?
Playing EA 3.4(d) for CoW and in turn 26.
Finland is nearly conquered and Sweden just joined the Axis.
One complaint, I still have yet to receive those mysterious armour units that I'm s'posed to for attacking Finland.
Is this a probability or a definite effect?
Anyhoo...after the sitz, should be interesting.
I really like the fact that Germany can't assist Finland and Sweden in their problems with the Soviets.
Good Scenario man...still the best yet..I think.
bdr
Schvengee schmoogle.
Holy Cow, the muppet "Swedish Chef" has been seen in Stockholm preparing to get ready for WAR!?
Playing EA 3.4(d) for CoW and in turn 26.
Finland is nearly conquered and Sweden just joined the Axis.
One complaint, I still have yet to receive those mysterious armour units that I'm s'posed to for attacking Finland.
Is this a probability or a definite effect?
Anyhoo...after the sitz, should be interesting.
I really like the fact that Germany can't assist Finland and Sweden in their problems with the Soviets.
Good Scenario man...still the best yet..I think.
bdr
III, IV, and V Soviet Tank Corps show up, up to 25 or 50 turns later, ish.
Bdr.Mallette
04 Jun 07, 11:58
oh..ok...thx man.
How goes your conquest?
You know something? I've taken Leningrad several times, and I don't think I've ever had the Swedes join me. One of the few times (in the many, many games of EA) where I just can't get the numbers to come up for me. And usually, (at least in CoW), if there's a chance something will happen, it usually does.
Schmindrick
04 Jul 07, 05:43
Do the allies have a theater option before attacking Sweden after the Swedes join the Axis? or does assisting the Finns from Russian attacks negate the Theater option?
Whoa - I don't know if it's just too early in the morning, but I'm not following you! The Allies have a TO - anytime - to declare war on the Swedes. This, and the Swedes joining due to Red success in Finland, or the fall of Leningrad, is the only way they ever join.
Germany cannot help the Finns/Swedes against the Russians until such time as there is war between Russia and the Axis. Does that answer (most?) of your question?
:D
Schmindrick
04 Jul 07, 20:10
Good answers. Perhaps my question is a "new summary question"
I received the following new summary items about Finland and Sweden
1. Stalin orders Red Army to conquer Finland within weeks
2. Sweden reluctantly joins the Axis (subsequent to Ruskies nearing Helsinki)
3. Red Army absorbs lessons of war in Finland
4. Axis forces successfully defend Boden/Lulea
Usually you get a string that says your are going to be attacked or you just got attacked, but the Boden Lulea attack seemed like a continuation of the Finland Campaign in Sweden. Seems like there should have been a string about declaration of war on Sweden? yes/no?
Good answers. Perhaps my question is a "new summary question"
I received the following new summary items about Finland and Sweden
1. Stalin orders Red Army to conquer Finland within weeks
2. Sweden reluctantly joins the Axis (subsequent to Ruskies nearing Helsinki)
3. Red Army absorbs lessons of war in Finland
4. Axis forces successfully defend Boden/Lulea
Usually you get a string that says your are going to be attacked or you just got attacked, but the Boden Lulea attack seemed like a continuation of the Finland Campaign in Sweden. Seems like there should have been a string about declaration of war on Sweden? yes/no?
This could be clarified, as the Swedes have really joined the Finns and not the Axis.
It is to be assumed that the Swedes and Finns are on their own during the "winter war" (however long that may last), until the Germans invade the USSR (or war between the two starts in some other way), at which point the Germans may then assist the Swedes and Finns.
The Germans should not, however, send troops to help the Swedes/Finns until such time as they have already declared war to the Soviets.
EDIT: In fact, the exclusion zone that surrounds Sweden, Finland, and the USSR takes care of the last item.
The Allies would then be able to attack the Swedes when the Sovs and Germans are at war, with the excultion zone being lifted.
(I edited my previous post to include something I missed - Sweden can also join with the Axis capture of Leningrad).
And #2 in your list is the Swedes dropping a DoW on the Russians. #4 is just a result of your particular game, and not the scenario itself.
Schmindrick
05 Jul 07, 16:43
Yes, Veers, the clarification seems to be that the Swedes joined the Finns, which made them fair game no matter which action they took. buts its also clear that the Ruskies forced this situation when they neared Helsinki.
thanks
Yes, Veers, the clarification seems to be that the Swedes joined the Finns, which made them fair game no matter which action they took. buts its also clear that the Ruskies forced this situation when they neared Helsinki.
thanks
Right. The Swedes were overcome with pan-Scandanavianism and sent troops declared war to the Ruskies. :laugh:
Did you have any other questions on the matter, or did we clear it up?
Schmindrick
05 Jul 07, 18:50
Crystal Clear. :D
Crystal Clear. :D
Ahh, good. :D
Bdr.Mallette
14 Jul 07, 00:58
hello,
I figured, Since the Swedes decided to aid them in Finland by sending an Expeditionary force, then they were an open target to an invasion.
Sweden and Finland against the Soviet Union....hmmmm.
bdr.
Mark Stevens
14 Jul 07, 09:59
Red Army will win if it can concentrate enough men, although the terrain's a devil, but (i) will that leave it too badly damaged to take on the Germans or (ii) if half the Red Army is in Scandinavia when the Germans do attack, there'll be a hell of a scramble to get back to the USSR.
Bdr.Mallette
14 Jul 07, 11:42
yes, true but...
wouldn't the entire left flank of any offensive be open to an invasion from forces from Scandinavia? As well, Northern Germany, Denmark and Norway would have to be beefed up with German forces 'less they be turned Allied again?.....will definitely be some interesting decisions in the near future, me thinx. Anyways, on turn 48 right now..waiting for turn 49...patiently...lol
Great scenario, once again Mark et al.
;)
yes, true but...
wouldn't the entire left flank of any offensive be open to an invasion from forces from Scandinavia?
Yes, but the same can be acheived by holding Leningrad.
As well, Northern Germany
No SP.
Denmark
No SP
and Norway would have to be beefed up with German forces 'less they be turned Allied again? If the Sovs captured Swden before war with Germany, I, as a German, would abandon Norway, as it would be far too much effort to defend her when trying to take the USSR out.
.....will definitely be some interesting decisions in the near future, me thinx. Anyways, on turn 48 right now..waiting for turn 49...patiently...lol
Good luck. :D
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