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RedDevil (FGM)
15 May 07, 21:18
What’s the hottest new thing for CM to hit the Web?
Domination Europa!
The newest brainchild creation of FGM member Rico, and it’s only available at The FGM website (www.thefewgoodmen.com)
Membership at FGM is free, but it requires being a Blitz member as a prime requisite.
Domination is a fun orientated gaming system that pits the Axis and Allied sides in a large hex based campaign like style.
The battles are simply whatever the challengers announce and the results determine the ownership of the hex fought over.
Some simple rules to cover special terrain and city hexes and the rest is GAMING FUN.
All 3 Combat Mission games can be used and the sky is the limit in the game setups. All armor or strictly Infantry, or a mix even, scenarios can be used as well. Whatever your tastes are, Domination has the menu for you.
Here’s a picture of the domination map,http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w14/rplume/Regulardom.jpg
And the rules for the gaming system are here, (Rico's Rules! (http://www.rico.co.za/domination-ostfront/dom-ost-rules.pdf) - PDF reader required) for those interested in a quick glance.
The trials and tribulations of regular Domination have been exciting with 127 games logged since November 21 2006 between just 37 players! Rico and Bootie have since made numerous advancements in the playing and management of the system based on the regular series, a dry run of sorts, and it has grown into the soon to be released EUROPA version of Domination.
DOMINATION Europa map below.
http://i172.photobucket.com/albums/w14/rplume/EUROPA-TEMP.jpg
So what are you waiting for? Come join in the fun and get the thrill of being a part of an original game design from FGM!
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The FGM (http://www.thefewgoodmen.com/forum/index.php)
Club is proud to announce that Domination Europa is now open!
A post from the Creator of Domination, Rico.
Welcome to the next step in the Domination evolution: Domination EUROPA!
Domination EUROPA is a refinement of the recently introduced Domination Ostfront and is most importantly an expansion into the Western Europe and Mediterranean Theaters.
This new version introduces terrain effects on battle selection, fortresses, fortifications, amphibious landings, partisans, river crossings and especially the new “INITIATIVE HEX” system which allows for sides to gain and keep the initiative on sectors of the front and also sustain ongoing, rolling offensives.
I have set the staring point and front line for this tourney approximately as it stood at the end of May 1941. The Balkans have just been overrun by the Axis forces and in North Africa the Afrika Korps and the 8th Army are embroiled in the desert battles on the Egyptian frontier while Tobruk remains besieged. Meanwhile, Operation Barbarossa is about to erupt into the USSR. To simulate the impact of this massive offensive, all Axis Eastern Front hexes start as “Initiative Hexes” to give the Axis a good head start -- and it’ll be up to the Soviet forces to slow down and counter the invasion.
Read the full RULES and the INITIATIVE HEX SYSTEM explained here in pdf format:
Domination Rules link (http://www.rico.co.za/domination-europa/EUROPA-rules-fin.pdf)
Check out the Domination EUROPA website: Domination (http://www.rico.co.za/domination-europa/)
Remember - the spirit of this tourney is to above anything else to participate and have FUN in the best tradition of the FGM!!
Come join the FGM, you won't believe what you've been missing.
FGM is a CM clan, and one that has our respect and friendship at KG. Of course a CM player should investigate other CM clans, including our own before deciding on one.
The Blitz, however, is another kettle of fish. While I am sure that there is much positive over there. I have picked up a great deal of soap opera like backwash from that vector, especially with regard to its CM section/ladder/leadership. In addition the last word was that POS, consistent with his long standing practice of staying just ahead of the villagers armed with torches and pitchforks, has taken up current residence at the Blitz. For me, the required Blitz membership is probably a deal breaker, at least for now.
RedDevil (FGM)
16 May 07, 14:50
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
Red Devil (FGM)
Why did you re -register?
You already have an account here.......
I hope that there are not two accounts in question here....if there is please contact Bertram or myself by PM, to have this corrected. If not we will correct this IF it is so and there may be other punishments to accompany this error....IF there is one.:OHNO: ;) :smoke:
RedDevil (FGM)
18 May 07, 22:42
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
I had PM'd the Admin staff a couple days back about this occurance. It's pretty plain you can't have two accounts and it would have been better to enquire first before opening a second. We'll now deal with it after the fact.
You were questioned by a member for an infraction there's no need to retaliate with name calling. Let's get it fixed and move on. I'll see what the staff can do and email you directly.
RedDevil (FGM)
19 May 07, 08:23
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
well since some little lost puppy who's following me around everywhere feels to make an attention seeking scene here and get some brownie points.
Following? Eh, please check my join date. Thanks.....
1. Is this system just a "tie-in" of CM like the operational overview of the CMC coming out? (assuming it does come out)
or
2. Won't CMC just supplant "Domination Europa?"
RedDevil (FGM)
19 May 07, 12:37
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
RedDevil (FGM)
20 May 07, 11:34
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
Mad Russian
21 May 07, 21:02
Actually, no it's not anything to do with CMC, this is a lot less involved and only requires a little management on the creator's part to function.
It's like a super tournament with no set scenarios or battles. It's all based on making your own challenges up with what ever settings you want, either a QB or a set scenario and playing someone who agrees with them.
The map is simple enough to allow everyone to see where the attacks are making headway and where they are dying off.
Smaller versions can be made up to provide a club Vs. club contest with a minimal effort and willing memberships.
If I understand this correcly, and I may not, it is unlike any other tournament in another way. It basically has no end. Or at least not a structured one. If it does I have never seen where the tournament directors intend on ending this. That means it will run for a long time. It will accomodate a large number of gamers that can actually come and go as they please. There is no penalty for dropping out of Domination and you can join at any time. Keep in mind that one of the previous versions of Domination was actually closed to new gamers though.
The only draw back seems to be, that when Domination is upgraded, the previous tournament is stopped without a warning of any kind. This may, or may not, be a disadvantage since the tournament exists soley to generate CM battle locations, and as a controlled meeting place for opponents.
If this is your cup of tea, it could very well run for a good long time. Or at least until the next update. The good news there is that the updates seem to be worth the temporary disruption.
Good Hunting.
MR
RedDevil (FGM)
21 May 07, 21:41
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
Mad Russian
21 May 07, 22:20
Again, I agree that Domination is different. I was under the mistaken impression that it was a tournament. Whatever it is, as Rico says, it's there mainly for some lighthearted CM gaming. I guess it resembles Risk with CM to a degree. I think that you have achieved the goal. Something not very complicated, a Risk of CM if you will, but fun and quick moving.
Not a problem.
The "system" then was well liked and I see plenty of the same ones that were in it before signing up again. I never said I didn't like it. I said it was different.
Lest you forget I'm an FGM'er too. I was just trying to put a little more in depth information out about the "system". There are those that will like the "system" for what it does and those that won't.
I am neutral about it. I like the concept of the higher level wargame being resolved at the CM level...much like CMC....but don't care for the fact that it's not more historically oriented. As you say, nothing is for everybody.
In fact, I am currently moving in the direction of teams as well. As you know, we are doing Operational CM, which may look something very similar to what CMC is supposed to look like. Again as you said, that too will not be for everybody.
I really like the idea of "systems", or operations, or tournaments that are open to the entire community. That will generate interest on more than one site and get CM gamers playing again!! It was the CM experience that brought us all together in the first place.
Now is not the time to step back from pushing the envelope. Domination is a step in that direction just as Operational CM is. Is there a multi-site version of Domination in the works? When can we expect to see that in actual readiness?
I know that alot of hard work went into Domination and I think it shows in the response to those that play in it.
Just to clarify this now though....are you saying that Europa Domination is now a tournament at FGM? It's not in the tournament section. It's listed in the same place as the previous two and not in the tournament section.
If so how will the winner be determined? What is the ending point?
Good Hunting.
MR
I like this Forum, I dont post all that much, but think I do on a par with most others here. I'm not into being labelled an attention seeker either despite what some individuals maybe think, or say.
However, when I see another Forum member who doesnt seem to take any part in this forum other than to advertise another Clubs exclusive game system, something he has frowned upon at the Blitz, it does make my eyebrows rise, Roger Moore like.
I like the look of the Domination Europa game. But its not a Tourney by any means or in the sense that we know already.
Its a well thought out vehicle to enable all those QB's and Scenarios played at the Blitz to be recorded visually and in a handy team format. A bit like MR says, Risk for CM. You can battle for Dunkirk in one battle in 1940 and then in your very next, battle for it in 1944, while your neighbour is battling in the next Hex to you in 1942. So you have to take it for what it is.
I would like to be involved in something like this, I think its a positive way to play CM and in its own way, a visual revolution. Good luck with it too as Rico has obviously put a lot of hard work and effort into it.
However, as both of the above parties involves in the argument above are from The Blitz and tFGM, why dont you take your conversations there so that your membership can join in with them?
RedDevil (FGM)
22 May 07, 09:58
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
Sorry if Ive touched a nerve mate. I aready said I liked The Concept. The fact is you and MR are banging on about it here when you could be banging on about it there instead, with the added input of your members. As for your contribution, yes Ive read all your past posts, very interesting indeed.
So once again, sorry and good luck with your Tourney.
RedDevil (FGM)
22 May 07, 10:37
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
You have got to be kidding me.
One guy posts some remarks (and no MOD made any "upsetting" remarks btw) and you yank your own thread? That kind of childish behavior leaves me wondering about the quaility of the very thing you wanted us to look at in the first place & the "FGM" group as a whole.
Oh well, if it wasn't worth RD's effort who put the announcment here to discuss it here it certainly isn't worth my time to check it out. This idea was a waste of everyones time.
But heck I'll start a new one- should we start a discussion on the worth of the FGM group? Cracks me up! (sorry wayne)
EDIT- since the main points have been reinstated RD did not yank his own ideas off the thread- well done!
RedDevil (FGM)
22 May 07, 15:22
You have got to be kidding me.
One guy posts some remarks (and no MOD made any "upsetting" remarks btw) and you yank your own thread? That kind of childish behavior leaves me wondering about the quaility of the very thing you wanted us to look at in the first place & the "FGM" group as a whole.
Oh well, if it wasn't worth RD's effort who put the announcment here to discuss it here it certainly isn't worth my time to check it out. This idea was a waste of everyones time.
But heck I'll start a new one- should we start a discussion on the worth of the FGM group? Cracks me up! (sorry wayne)
your mod took a stab at me in an email and your members don't seem to be interested other than harassing and jacking up threads for attention and telling me to get lost, but nobody HERE put an end to it did they?
So Yes, it was a waste of my time to try and bring people together and have more fun when the only reactions are like the ones above.
Hey Red:ciao:, I thought the concept was, as a few others have posted, good but as this seems to be one of the smaller CM communities with a core group of active posters and a good number of others that drop in and out without really posting except for battles, maybe reposting the first post with the map and rules would be good. And just leave it the same it couldn't hurt to at least post that up as baisically(imo) taking it down really doesn't help that out as it is a really cool idea.
Rocket-Man
22 May 07, 18:31
not worthy of discussion on these forums sorry for taking up your space here
Insulting people is not the way to bring people together, and in such a small community as CM is, it is sure to get noticed by a large percentage of the players.
Which is too bad. We need new ideas in the community, and the idea Randy (AKA RedDevil) deemed not worthy of discussing here was intriguing.
However, a word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor: Don't question any of Randy's decisions, because people who have done it in the past have been quickly banned from the Blitz.
RedDevil (FGM)
22 May 07, 18:46
Insulting people is not the way to bring people together, and in such a small community as CM is, it is sure to get noticed by a large percentage of the players.
Which is too bad. We need new ideas in the community, and the idea Randy (AKA RedDevil) deemed not worthy of discussing here was intriguing.
However, a word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor: Don't question any of Randy's decisions, because people who have done it in the past have been quickly banned from the Blitz.
Don't go spreading false rumors you have no clue about, these people who got banned from The Blitz were NOT banned by me, they were banned by the Club vice president, for their own actions, AFTER numerous warnings to stop.
typical rocket scientist...
You have got to be kidding me.
One guy posts some remarks (and no MOD made any "upsetting" remarks btw) and you yank your own thread? That kind of childish behavior leaves me wondering about the quaility of the very thing you wanted us to look at in the first place & the "FGM" group as a whole.
Oh well, if it wasn't worth RD's effort who put the announcment here to discuss it here it certainly isn't worth my time to check it out. This idea was a waste of everyones time.
But heck I'll start a new one- should we start a discussion on the worth of the FGM group? Cracks me up! (sorry wayne)
I get home from work and what to I see...a note from Mangus2000 with our game stating; some of what has been going on here.
I have and will letting Bertram deal with this one, seeing he must of e-mailed our visitor here. I am tired and cranky...I would most likely do or say something I might have to apologise for again.:laugh: :laugh: :smoke:
your mod took a stab at me in an email and your members don't seem to be interested other than harassing and jacking up threads for attention and telling me to get lost, but nobody HERE put an end to it did they?
So Yes, it was a waste of my time to try and bring people together and have more fun when the only reactions are like the ones above.
Seeing that I did not e-mail you it must of been my partner...... he is a good man....I have no idea what he wrote to you, but I am sure that it was fair and just. May be if when reading things that others write you, view it in a positive manner and not look at it a negative or critical way. This way you may understand what the author wants you to know.:smoke:
Rocket-Man
22 May 07, 21:37
Don't go spreading false rumors you have no clue about, these people who got banned from The Blitz were NOT banned by me, they were banned by the Club vice president, for their own actions, AFTER numerous warnings to stop.
typical rocket scientist...
I never said you did the banning Randy. We "typical Rocket Scientists" know the Straw Man fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html) when we see it.
Although if it will make you happy, I will rephrase my earlier statement.........
A word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor. The Blitz has had more long time members banned than any other message board I have ever seen.
I never said you did the banning Randy. We "typical Rocket Scientists" know the Straw Man fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html) when we see it.
Although if it will make you happy, I will rephrase my earlier statement.........
A word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor. The Blitz has had more long time members banned than any other message board I have ever seen.
I Believe that it is not necessarily in the intertest of any site to ban anyone. The money to help run these sites comes from members and advertising on these sites. If a member is banned I am sure with the way staistics ae watched you loose a few members / friends for sure lowerr the chance to advertise to individuals.
So why band someone? ... If there is no good information and total disrespect towards the staff and members...or may be extreme trolling etc. from my experience most member are mature and fair given a chance to explain what they are really trying to say. Even in this situation.;) :smoke:
RedDevil (FGM)
22 May 07, 22:58
I never said you did the banning Randy. We "typical Rocket Scientists" know the Straw Man fallacy (http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/straw-man.html) when we see it.
Although if it will make you happy, I will rephrase my earlier statement.........
A word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor. The Blitz has had more long time members banned than any other message board I have ever seen.
However, a word of caution for those of you who would join the Blitz to participate in the endeavor: Don't question any of Randy's decisions, because people who have done it in the past have been quickly banned from the Blitz.
It's all good laughs really, I just feel bad for anyone who only hears 1 side of a story and makes an opinion of people and places based on that.
Rocket-Man
22 May 07, 23:25
I'll let you have the last word Randy. Neither Bertram or 205 should have to deal with moderating a thread about the internal politics at another board.
Sometimes the best way to handle someone you think is hassling you is to ignore them, don't take the bait. I didn't "stab you" in my email. I explained why I got involved, asked you to consider this bickering 'water under the bridge' and move on.
I've thanked you for your list of gaming sites and told you your Domination game would hopefully bring a new twist to CM game playing.
Don't keep looking for negatives to attack. You'll likely be hurt the most in the end.
One last time, let it go.
A discussion about Domination was just breaking out. I would think that is what you'd like to see happening????
Randy, I still dont get this I'm supposed to be following you around line. I was here before you arrived and I no doubt will be after you have gone.
I have no other point to make and no axe to grind here. What you do at your FGM and Blitz Clubs is your policy and really should be discussed there and not here, neither myself or Rocket Man are members of FGM-Blitz.
I'm also sure that none of our fellow Gamesquad members want us to rant on about the past either.
Yes I asked you why you had 2 accounts, so what. You knew it wasnt allowed here, just as it isnt on any other board and being a very experienced Admin at FGM-Blitz I'm sure you will understand why your response to this appeared a little lame and how some may have seen the second account attempt a way to disassociate yourself from several heated arguments with several members here with the original account.
I'm finished discussing this with you here. Send a PM if you want to take it further but please dont accuse me of following you around to places I have belonged longer than you.
As I have said already I like the Domination idea a lot and wish FGM-Blitz sucess with it. I think the visual representation brings a whole new dimension to those often samey QB's and will give guys some goals to aim for in those ladder games.
Cheers.
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 08:29
However, as both of the above parties involves in the discussions above are from The Blitz and tFGM, why dont you take your conversations there so that your membership can join in with them?
Cheers.
edited to ignore the baiting
Can someone please lock this thread, I'm losing the will to live... :nada: :bored:
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 10:51
yeh why not delete every post in the thread that doesn't relate to the domination discussion, not that there's one happening anyways since it was successfully mucked up by off topic posts and told to go elsewhere.
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Originally Posted by Geordie View Post
However, as both of the above parties involves in the discussions above are from The Blitz and tFGM, why dont you take your conversations there so that your membership can join in with them?
Colonel Talvela
23 May 07, 11:53
Randy, I still dont get this I'm supposed to be following you around line. I was here before you arrived and I no doubt will be after you have gone.
Geordie, we both know you really arent that dense. He is talking about you "following him" into the thread to make a completely off-topic post.
Poor Old Spike
23 May 07, 15:08
the last word was that POS, consistent with his long standing practice of staying just ahead of the villagers armed with torches and pitchforks, has taken up current residence at the Blitz..
NO..!
I've never regarded myself as 'belonging' to any one club, I just mercenary around..
Admittedly I thought I'd be at Blitz for a long time after Randy invited me to join a couple of months ago, I mean the forum layout looks good, my pics display well there, and Randy forbids any of the petty bickering between members that other clubs allow.
In short the Blitz is peaceful and sensible...or so I thought at first...
Then a couple of weeks ago I happened to browse my Blitz User CP and was shocked to see some childish anonymous Blitz members had been hitting me with red rep points, calling me "arrogant" or whatever.
I mentioned it to Randy and told him I didn't like it and suggested he scrap the whole rep system anyway, as it serves no useful purpose in any club except to alienate members against each other.
But he prefers to let it stay, so I immediately stopped posting at the Blitz, (except occasionally in my Pripet Tourney thread)
In my couple of months at Blitz I made over 400 tac posts, averaging 11 per day, but that's now dropped to zero.
My message to all mods is therefore crystal clear - I hold you personally responsible for allowing your members to fire red reps at me, and to put it bluntly - either your rep system goes or I do.. ;)
I prefer sensible adult CM clubs, not ones like high schools that allow kids to name-call via rep systems..
I mean, when I'm up til 4 a.m bleary-eyed and weary,struggling to complete a stunning series of exhaustive CM test shots to get finished before morning, it kinda saps my motivation to know a club isn't behind me 100%, so I just switch off and go watch The Jamie Kennedy Experiment or whatever instead.. ;)
Hey Gamesquad, I see your resident red-reppers have hit me with two reds so far....grrrrrr...
PS - I get green reps at Blitz and Gamesquad but no amount of them will wipe out the reds..
How can I work when I'm being sniped at by my own side?
Best for me to only post at clubs that don't have rep systems, life's so much simpler that way.. ;)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8523/snipersoq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Rocket-Man
23 May 07, 15:30
Can someone please lock this thread, I'm losing the will to live... :nada: :bored:
Have to agree with Boff here. Discussions about other boards should not be held here and this thread should be locked before the discussion gets out of hand.
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 15:33
Have to agree with Boff here. Discussions about other boards should not be held here and this thread should be locked before the discussion gets out of hand.
but you had to get your stab in before hand didn't you LOL then it's ok to stop posting on the matter
Poor Old Spike
23 May 07, 15:57
And if I like CM Shock Force I shall do loads of tac tips and screenshots of that too, including creating simple tutorial scenarios to help my loyal followers get into the game as quickly and smoothly as possible.
They can arrive home from work knowing there'll be a stunning new POS tac tip and screenshots waiting for them in some rep-system-free forum, thereby saving them the trouble of having to time-consumingly wade through the manual themselves.. :)
To all forums I say this - just you stick with your uncle POS and he'll stick with you.. ;)
What do you say Master Po?
"Yes grasshopper, just as the moon accompanies the earth on its travels through space, and just as the honeybee tends the delicate lotus blossom"..
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4590/masterpoad5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 16:00
NO..!
I've never regarded myself as 'belonging' to any one club, I just mercenary around..
Admittedly I thought I'd be at Blitz for a long time after Randy invited me to join a couple of months ago, I mean the forum layout looks good, my pics display well there, and Randy forbids any of the petty bickering between members that other clubs allow.
In short the Blitz is peaceful and sensible...or so I thought at first...
Then a couple of weeks ago I happened to browse my Blitz User CP and was shocked to see some childish anonymous Blitz members had been hitting me with red rep points, calling me "arrogant" or whatever.
I mentioned it to Randy and told him I didn't like it and suggested he scrap the whole rep system anyway, as it serves no useful purpose in any club except to alienate members against each other.
But he prefers to let it stay, so I immediately stopped posting at the Blitz, (except occasionally in my Pripet Tourney thread)
In my couple of months at Blitz I made over 400 tac posts, averaging 11 per day, but that's now dropped to zero.
My message to all mods is therefore crystal clear - I hold you personally responsible for allowing your members to fire red reps at me, and to put it bluntly - either your rep system goes or I do.. ;)
I prefer sensible adult CM clubs, not ones like high schools that allow kids to name-call via rep systems..
I mean, when I'm up til 4 a.m bleary-eyed and weary,struggling to complete a stunning series of exhaustive CM test shots to get finished before morning, it kinda saps my motivation to know a club isn't behind me 100%, so I just switch off and go watch The Jamie Kennedy Experiment or whatever instead.. ;)
Hey Gamesquad, I see your resident red-reppers have hit me with two reds so far....grrrrrr...
PS - I get green reps at Blitz and Gamesquad but no amount of them will wipe out the reds..
How can I work when I'm being sniped at by my own side?
Best for me to only post at clubs that don't have rep systems, life's so much simpler that way.. ;)
http://img201.imageshack.us/img201/8523/snipersoq5.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
Sorry POS, I can't change the politics of the entire site just for 1 poster.
I'm just a Custodian, I don't make policies or hand out bans like everyone thinks I do.
The rep issues was discussed when we opened the new forums and while there were opponents to the system, there were more for it and thus the owner's decision to keep it.
It's odd that you compare the Rep points to school yard antics, but your reaction to them isn't comparable? I know it's hard to ignore things that bother you, hell, I got my own monkey and I know it's a teeth gritting exercise in futility..
Rocket-Man
23 May 07, 17:09
but you had to get your stab in before hand didn't you LOL then it's ok to stop posting on the matter
Whether you want to believe it or not, a lot of long time members of your club, the Blitz, feel they were unfairly treated by you and the other moderators when they were banned. The sheer number of people who have been banned from the Blitz in recent months, many of them long time members, should give anybody pause before they decide to join your club. All I did was issue what I thought was a fair warning to people who were thinking about joining your club to play in your tournament.
You can try to make this personal if you would like, although I won't take your bait.
Anybody who wants to hear more about the whole Blitz banning affair can go to the Fragment web site and hear the other side (And no, I will not provide a link to Fragment. If you are really that interested in finding out more, you can hunt down the information for yourself. It is easy enough to find).
However, you will not be able to find anything out about the bannings from the Blitz website itself, because discussing the bannings at the Blitz is actively discouraged by Randy, and people have been banned for even questioning the bannings openly on the Blitz.
The whole business is a sad, sordid affair and tarnishes the CM community as a whole. Frankly I would recommend anybody not already involved should stay as far away from the whole situation as possible, which is again why I felt it would be helpful to post my warning to those members of GameSquad who were not aware of the situation.
And just to make you happy Randy, I will rescind my suggestion this thread be locked so you can continue to argue the whole issue if you want to. However, you can count me out from now on.
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 17:26
Whether you want to believe it or not, a lot of long time members of your club, the Blitz, feel they were unfairly treated by you and the other moderators when they were banned. The sheer number of people who have been banned from the Blitz in recent months, many of them long time members, should give anybody pause before they decide to join your club. All I did was issue what I thought was a fair warning to people who were thinking about joining your club to play in your tournament.
You can try to make this personal if you would like, although I won't take your bait.
Anybody who wants to hear more about the whole Blitz banning affair can go to the Fragment web site and hear the other side (And no, I will not provide a link to Fragment. If you are really that interested in finding out more, you can hunt down the information for yourself. It is easy enough to find).
However, you will not be able to find anything out about the bannings from the Blitz website itself, because discussing the bannings at the Blitz is actively discouraged by Randy, and people have been banned for even questioning the bannings openly on the Blitz.
The whole business is a sad, sordid affair and tarnishes the CM community as a whole. Frankly I would recommend anybody not already involved should stay as far away from the whole situation as possible, which is again why I felt it would be helpful to post my warning to those members of GameSquad who were not aware of the situation.
And just to make you happy Randy, I will rescind my suggestion this thread be locked so you can continue to argue the whole issue if you want to. However, you can count me out from now on.
There's been a total of 7 people permanently banned from TheBlitz since 1999, can YOU name them?
I'll even hint that 3 of them were cheaters who got caught.
I think you might know 2... yep...Sounds like ALOT to me too..
if you're referring to temporary posting bans in recent months, I bet you can name the single person that got one and it was lifted 2 days later.
you can discuss any banning with the Vice Commander, as that is his area of expertise and he doesn't discuss it in public. Not my rules, it's the owner's rules.
Well it's obvious you're so edukated on the Blitz and you're not even a member there, it must be all that mind altering urban legend stuff you're listening to LOL
So you're right there is no reason to discuss anything about the Blitz with you.
Poor Old Spike
23 May 07, 19:51
The rep issues was discussed when we opened the new forums and while there were opponents to the system, there were more for it....
Ah well, in that case it might be a good idea for all forum bosses where there's a rep system to poll their members to say - "That old fart POS won't post in any club where there's a rep system because he says it makes clubs look like immature high schools rather than sensible adult wargame clubs,so should we get rid of the rep system to keep him sweet, Yes or No?"
But in fact I'm tired of CM anyway (I always feel like that in summer) so shall be taking a layoff, and when I come back later this year I might switch to CM Shock Force if I like it, or some other game..
But whatever happens I won't post in any forum that has a rep system..
RedDevil (FGM)
23 May 07, 19:59
Ah well, in that case it might be a good idea for all forum bosses where there's a rep system to poll their members to say - "That old fart POS won't post in any club where there's a rep system because he says it makes clubs look like immature high schools rather than sensible adult wargame clubs,so should we get rid of the rep system to keep him sweet, Yes or No?"
But in fact I'm tired of CM anyway (I always feel like that in summer) so shall be taking a layoff, and when I come back later this year I might switch to CM Shock Force if I like it, or some other game..
But whatever happens I won't post in any forum that has a rep system..
Sorry it comes down to that.
Keep in touch, I'd be happy to post your new stuff on the Blitz Tactical Forum, With your permission, that is. I understand if you decide not to tho.
Cheers
I am glad everyone has taken the time to talk together about how good or bad it is at different sites etc. I see that the orginal intention of this thread has been lost therefore it has come to an end. if you want to try again and everyone will try to be mature lets see where it goes if not oh well.:smoke:
Colonel Talvela
23 May 07, 20:19
I Believe that it is not necessarily in the intertest of any site to ban anyone. The money to help run these sites comes from members and advertising on these sites. If a member is banned I am sure with the way staistics ae watched you loose a few members / friends for sure lowerr the chance to advertise to individuals.
One of the great things about the blitz - no ads!
Looks like everybody involved got something off of their chests. At the same time, no resolution about anything was reached. I'll gladly put this thread out of it's misery.
It was very frustrating to see how over the top this discussion got. Try and remember, every remark doesn't require another post to get the last word.
Using PM's to point out 'flaws' will certainly go over better than public floggings.
This site is open to discuss CM, games, tournaments and what's going on around the CM world. Let's just try and do it better!
and now, I have gotten the last word!;)
here come the PM's now!!
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