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Why Hungarians can't be used against poles in early stage of war ??
I partialy agree for Rumanians ( we can imagine an expeditionary corps there)
Wait for your answer dear MantWyattVeerIs
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Why Hungarians can't be used against poles in early stage of war ??
I partialy agree for Rumanians ( we can imagine an expeditionary corps there)
Wait for your answer dear MantWyattVeerIs
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I wasn't aware that the Hungarians were involved in the invasion of Poland. I know the Slovaks sent a small force (not sure what size), but, to my knowledge, the Hungarians were nto involved.
Happy to be proved wrong, however, if you have something about it that I can read.
How is it that you would have the Hungarians active at a time when you are just opening the war against the Poles, JL?
Wow, those were quite closely timed, Wyatt!
Wow, those were quite closely timed, Wyatt!
I know, I was already pointing it out to Frances and laughing. :laugh:
I type pretty bloody fast, and mine was a short post - those had to be a micro-second apart. :D
Hey - out of curiousity, has Frances ever tried EA?
How is it that you would have the Hungarians active at a time when you are just opening the war against the Poles, JL?
KoK choosen Maginot line extended
I Chose pre-war forces bonus and Aircraft Carriers
On turn 2 I just got both Hungarians and Rumanians activated along with Balts States on German side.
Poles opened Talks with Ribbentrop.
Need more info Shane ?
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KoK choosen Maginot line extended
I Chose pre-war forces bonus and Aircraft Carriers
On turn 2 I just got both Hungarians and Rumanians activated along with Balts States on German side.
Poles opened Talks with Ribbentrop.
Need more info Shane ?
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Ah, the reason you're asking is because, technically, the Hungarians are limited to the USSR and the Balkans, eh?
I don't have alot of experience with the EC variant (or 'almost' EC games, where the Allies extend the line). I believe that TO is what caused the Hungarians/Rumanians to activate for you?
There is also another thing I'd like to bring to the table here... I have no problems with the limitations on where forces can be used. But it seems to me that certain restrictions should be lifted at certain times.
For example - the Rumanians and Hungarians are basically restricted to the Balkans and Russia. Ok, so what if you wipe out Russia? What I'm getting at is that under certain circumstances, historical realities no longer hold sway. In real life, their focus into Russia makes sense, and I can't see them off in Spain or assaulting the UK or something like that. But when success rears it's ugly head, and Russia actually falls...
Well, at that point, in real life, I think they'd be looking for the next slice of pie, no? Maybe still no Sealion, but things like Turkey, into the Middle East to help in the push to rid the canal of those pesky Brits, etc. There's thought that needs to go into this, certainly, but I would like to see a bit more potential for them as the scenario progresses. We're already working on keeping EA interesting when/if Russia falls - this issue should also be worked into that.
Ah, the reason you're asking is because, technically, the Hungarians are limited to the USSR and the Balkans, eh?
Yes I do not hide my intentions there
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In that case it would seem logical for the Hungarians to send troops to Poland. What the heck else would they be doing? :laugh:
Ok, but to what extent are you suggesting the limitations be lifted, Wyatt? Poland is rather close, but it is the French pulling stuff that flies in the face of the diplomacy efforts they were going through in the Balkans that is causing this reaction in the first place - as they see the French going totally turtle, they no longer buy the 'we'll keep you safe from the Axis' crap, as they appear to be going totally defensive, and undermining their own efforts at guaranteeing nation's safety.
So by that logic, could they also be used in France? I think we need to spell something out...
Work is slamming today, so I don't know if I'll get a chance to send you another email about the issues we're working on, but I will send you my number, and hopefully we can talk soon! We should work out a time in advance, so I can be sure to be free!
Also - does it make sense that they activate for the Axis prior to the Germans declaring an EC game? I think that the Maginot extension might switch them from slightly pro-allied to pro-axis, but it's Yugo/USSR that is where their interests lie. Shouldn't the trigger either be Yugo, fall of France, or USSR, as it is normally?
Hmmm - it's not historical (but neither is an EC campaign)... Are there any TOs we could add that the Allied player could take that would actually cause the French diplomacy efforts to succeed, maybe keeping an Axis minor or two out of the war (at the cost of something to the Allies, of course?) Just thinking out loud to see what others might think about the idea!
Ok, but to what extent are you suggesting the limitations be lifted, Wyatt? Poland is rather close, but it is the French pulling stuff that flies in the face of the diplomacy efforts they were going through in the Balkans that is causing this reaction in the first place - as they see the French going totally turtle, they no longer buy the 'we'll keep you safe from the Axis' crap, as they appear to be going totally defensive, and undermining their own efforts at guaranteeing nation's safety.
So by that logic, could they also be used in France? I think we need to spell something out...
Work is slamming today, so I don't know if I'll get a chance to send you another email about the issues we're working on, but I will send you my number, and hopefully we can talk soon! We should work out a time in advance, so I can be sure to be free!
I would suggest that Eastern Europe would not be out of the Hungarian's scope, if they were facing no threats to their own borders. As long as the USSR is on their border, I could not see the Hungarians moving much of their military too far away from their own country.
What about Rumania?
Ok, so you are saying that the Hungarians can attack Poland - only in this situation? Or regardless of situation? And we'll open them right up if Russia falls? Or just the closest 'local' area? So Turkey if that is an option, and then on to the ME, etc. What about if there's nothing Allied anywhere near them? Then they are unrestricted?
What about Rumania?
Ok, so you are saying that the Hungarians can attack Poland - only in this situation? Or regardless of situation? And we'll open them right up if Russia falls? Or just the closest 'local' area? So Turkey if that is an option, and then on to the ME, etc. What about if there's nothing Allied anywhere near them? Then they are unrestricted?
Well, I'm certainly not wanting to put out anything hard and firm regarding House Rules before we have discussed it. In that vein, I think we should have a discussion about this, as well as everything else, when you have the time.
(Reading this over in between emergencies at work :laugh: )
Or were you saying that the Hungarians can only do this because the Reds are not yet at war?
Well, I'm certainly not wanting to put out anything hard and firm regarding House Rules before we have discussed it. In that vein, I think we should have a discussion about this, as well as everything else, when you have the time.
Mail sent with my phone number about 5 minutes ago! We can talk in the next couple days if you have time!
Killorbekilled
21 Jun 07, 23:12
Well, at that point, in real life, I think they'd be looking for the next slice of pie, no? Maybe still no Sealion, but things like Turkey, into the Middle East to help in the push to rid the canal of those pesky Brits, etc. There's thought that needs to go into this, certainly, but I would like to see a bit more potential for them as the scenario progresses. We're already working on keeping EA interesting when/if Russia falls - this issue should also be worked into that.
Agreed - again! Post Russian collapse, those armies would not go quietly home. Besides being on counter-insurgant duty in Russia, it's logical that they might be used elsewhere... Same goes for the Finns (why only north of Moscow?)
Agreed - again! Post Russian collapse, those armies would not go quietly home. Besides being on counter-insurgant duty in Russia, it's logical that they might be used elsewhere... Same goes for the Finns (why only north of Moscow?)
Hé Hé, very insteresting hé hé,:devious:
Chris is agreeing on this point, so I can send my Bulgarians, Hungarians, Romanians against Turkey, Can't I
Nice information, Thxs Chris;)
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