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Veers
13 Mar 07, 13:44
Does taking one of these cities still activate the Soviets?
I remember reading about it happening in an earlier version, but couldn't find anything on it in the manual for 3.2+.

Mantis
13 Mar 07, 15:08
Pardon? I'm sure that I'm mistaken here, but I can't seem to recall that ever being the case. Perhaps I missed that version? I remember it being a big hit to the USEV... (I can recall a game with Dan where I encircled Cairo without taking it to avoid the penalty - I was gamey in my youth! :laugh: Can't imagine what possessed me back then).

Veers
14 Mar 07, 04:29
Pardon? I'm sure that I'm mistaken here, but I can't seem to recall that ever being the case. Perhaps I missed that version? I remember it being a big hit to the USEV... (I can recall a game with Dan where I encircled Cairo without taking it to avoid the penalty - I was gamey in my youth! :laugh: Can't imagine what possessed me back then).
If memory serves it was in an AAR on WarfareHQ that DOn Madox reported.
I can't seem to find the AAR now (sometimes hard to find things on WarfareHQ now :laugh:). Maybe someone recals where to find that AAR...:D

Mantis
14 Mar 07, 13:07
I'm sure Mark will be able to set the record straight when he sees this.

Mark Stevens
14 Mar 07, 20:20
"Does taking one of these cities still activate the Soviets?
I remember reading about it happening in an earlier version, but couldn't find anything on it in the manual for 3.2"

Wyatt, what are you smoking now?

Veers
14 Mar 07, 20:55
"Does taking one of these cities still activate the Soviets?
I remember reading about it happening in an earlier version, but couldn't find anything on it in the manual for 3.2"

Wyatt, what are you smoking now?
Ah, crap. :laugh: I really must dig this AAR up.
I could have sworn I read it on WarfareHQ (recently, as I wasn't around during the warfareHQ days) and it was between Don Madox and, maybe, Wolfsomebody.
The AAR was particularly memorable because it involved barely any action on the eastern front from the time the Ruskies came on board to before the final Soviet offensive. The main action involved the Soviets pushing the Germans back in Finland/Norway and Iraq. The US/British then did a 'Torch' style landing in North Africa, and pushed the Axis back until they were sandwiched between the Soviets and the Anglo-Americans in Egypt. Then an invasion through Spain by the Allies and a final campaign with a push form east and west.

Does anyone remember an AAR like this? (Am I the only one that reads and remembers this much form certain AARs? :laugh:)

nemo
15 Mar 07, 07:02
Does anyone remember an AAR like this? (Am I the only one that reads and remembers this much form certain AARs? :laugh:)
Could it be this one (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=after_action_reports/toaw_aar/heat_ea_aar1941.shtml) between Brian and Karl (Siberian Heat and Wolfe Tone as far as handles go)? There's indeed a part dealing with Cairo but it doesn't link its fall with a Soviet activation.

To the east I continued to build up my forces opposite the Soviet lines. In effect I engaged in a gigantic bluff to convince my opponent that an invasion of the Soviet Union was imminent. In the meantime substantial forces were shipped to North Africa as I had determined on the capture of at least Egypt and Palestine. This took some months to accomplish but finally in mid-August the British lines at El Alamein were reached. The one thing I could be certain of was the British would fight tooth & nail to defend Egypt and the Suez Canal. However to my astonishment and delight they withdrew rapidly towards the Nile after the most cursory resistance. Little did I realize that I was been sucked into a devious trap that my opponent had laid for me! His plan was that I would blindly rush ahead and seize the port of Suez which would add + 10 to the US entry variable. As this figure was already posted at 95 such a move would trigger US entry into the war. However I had already worked this into my plan of campaign and intended to skirt around Suez and leave a Corps of Observation to keep an eye on the Brits.

Alexandria fell on 14 September and one week later Cairo was liberated to the cheers of tens of thousands of Arabs who turned out to see their hero Rommel enter the city in triumph. Well just as when Marius' victory over the Ambrones & Tuetons was being celebrated in the Roman Camp news of the terrible defeat of another Roman army at the hands of the Cimbri arrived straight after, such was my own fate right now. For it turned out that Cairo was the key factor in bringing America into the war! On 28 September America duly declared war on Germany and her partners citing ' threats to US strategic interests ', so Roosevelt had his way in the end! Suez itself was reached on 5 October thus closing the Canal to British shipping and also triggering the entry of a Japanese expeditionary force, which landed in Madagascar.

Mantis
15 Mar 07, 10:40
Wyatt, what are you smoking now?

Ahhh, good to see. (Here I was worried that it was what I was smoking...) :smoke:

Veers
15 Mar 07, 12:27
Thanks, Nemo. That's the one. I confused it with the USEV.
How did you get to it, Nemo? Do you just have that address written down somewhere?

nemo
15 Mar 07, 17:22
Thanks, Nemo. That's the one. I confused it with the USEV.
How did you get to it, Nemo? Do you just have that address written down somewhere?
Always ask your librarian ;)

More to the point, a simple Google query like "Europe Aflame" AAR Cairo will yield surprising results.