Turn 1 Planning

[Double Deuce]

Here you will discuss your 1st turn orders. This week I will post your beginning intelligence information so you can use that to make your 1st turn plans.

[Skirmisher]

Hi everybody,


Please speak your peace here about what we are going to do :)


Based on Intel Report we need a new plan.

[Sharpe]

Why don't each of us submit a plan idea. Once we know where everyone's coming from we can agree on something!

Here's my attempt

Concentrate 8 companies and tanks at the river city.
Its too strong to destroy that way.Put out platoon or
section-sized listening posts all over the place.

The Northern attack goes ahead.
They 'should' be able to beat that British platoon.
Those Warriors will wreck havoc though.

The reason i suggest we reconcentrate is that 4 companies
are really a bite sized snack if they find out we are
divided. If we find them using similar sized groups WE can
take advantage. This plan is conservative but solid.

P.S Anyone notice the M60 the UN has got.
F/Control 25! :surprise:

[Sharpe]

Correction: Make that 4 M60's. That gives em a bit more sting
doesn't it? :crosseye:

[Skirmisher]

Hopefully we'll here from Tanker,Waape,and Nemo2 :)

What do you think will be left of the 2 companies and the bmp-r's after taking that northeast city?

How about we stack everything in the middle city and keep it ringed with scout teams,

after taking it of course,we could attack it from 3 directions :)

[Tanker]

I do not favor splitting our forces to attack both northern cities. I think the UK forces with the armor are too strong to attack with just 1 or 2 companies. I say we take the central city with 6 companies and the NW city with 2 or 3 companies. Let the rebels wear themselves down against the Brits.

We can put some scout cars out in the provinces to find out where the opposition is and then, after taking the initial 2 cities, we can combine against them.

At a minimum we should select an overall commander to make a decision about our final strategy or we will be having these planning discussions until Christmas.

[Sharpe]

I'm not sure what will be left. Have they even got anti-tank weapons? Maybe an rpg team with the support units. DD is giving us the basic infantry $10, so the Northern force might lack punch.

Maybe we should pull them back and use those 2 companies as our scouts? Scouts with orders to observe and withdraw if faced with a superior force? Once we've armed up with rpg's or even atgm's we could take it on.

OR we could detach a tank platoon and send it North. Once weve safely taken the River city. Those Northern companies could stay put until they arrive. Perhaps move them into K zone for now. We could use the woods if we get surprised or the Brits decide to attack.

If 8 companies had to fight 10 i dont think they would have too many problems.

What strategy do you want to pursue now. Still want to go south?
I think that Eastern city should wait for now! :)

[Skirmisher]

Tanker,we only need to plan one turn at a time,we cant attack the Nw city on this turn ,we would need to reposition the force,and I suspect that rebels are about.

I thought I was the overall commander, I'd just like to hear what you folks have to say about it before I etch it in stone :)

Sharpe I've basically dissolved the original plan ,intel says that
rebels are nearby :surprise:

Those british warriors do a number on infantry.

[Sharpe]

Even if we attacked the NW city we'd need a/tank weapons for the M60. Maybe our first spending priority should be rpg's. Does anyone think the UN will attack the river straight up with their
aircraft? Do we need air defence straight away?

[Skirmisher]

I think each Peacekeeping company gets one m60,that would mean theres one in the central city.


We wont debate it till christmas,when DD calls for the orders I'll etch something in stone :)



Double Duece has said that the British or Ukranian force will attempt to retake captured cities.

[Sharpe]

Tanker's suggestion about the scout cars sounds like the way to go. Superior speed, recon capabilities etc. With the right orders they shouldnt get in too much trouble.

[Skirmisher]

We could also take a proper pro government sort of plan where we would not attack the UN,if we could help it.

After all they stand between the Rebels and Additional Equipment.

On turn one we would scout and consolidate,and see what happens.

Food for thought.

[Sharpe]

What would your orders be if we had to submit them today, in detail?

So far we've got 2 planning suggestions. Once yours is in we can finalise something. ;)

[Skirmisher]

Well the first thing well need to cover is what if the rebels have stuff in sectors we are delpoyed in ?

Right now I would instruct the bulk of the N force to join up and dig in with the forces in sector O.
The force in sector I would move south into sector L.
A recon force would remain in sector N.

This plan could be hampered by rebels already in or around our positions.

How many operational turns are there ,is there any need for us to hurry?

[Sharpe]

That's ok with me. Are we going to pounce on any rebel force we find split from their main body?

If we're going to hold off attacking the UN for now, then we'll need to have a new focus. Operate in force, don't split our army unless we KNOW it's safe to do so.Concentrate on locating rebels?

Perhaps we should push out small scouting units from those in zone O as well. What's a good size? A section apiece? A platoon?
If they're ordered to avoid detection and merely observe will they be safe?

What do you think of this Tanker? You've wanted to stay united throughout the planning so far? :D

[Tanker]

That's ok with me. Are we going to pounce on any rebel force we find split from their main body?

If we're going to hold off attacking the UN for now, then we'll need to have a new focus. Operate in force, don't split our army unless we KNOW it's safe to do so.Concentrate on locating rebels?

Perhaps we should push out small scouting units from those in zone O as well. What's a good size? A section apiece? A platoon?
If they're ordered to avoid detection and merely observe will they be safe?

What do you think of this Tanker? You've wanted to stay united throughout the planning so far? :D

I concur with this approach. Let's consolidate and explore. let the rebs and UN fight it out initially. Perhaps we could even offer to "assist" the UN if they are attacked by the rebs. If they provide aircover or armor we provide manpower. It's worth a thought.

[Sharpe]

That's not a bad idea. We should see if we can have the intel on the zones we're in BEFORE we move. We might find an easy kill!We might be able to combine our units AND attack something. :devil:

We could hang around the UN then too. Pretend we're guarding them! :devious:

[Sharpe]

The diplomatic stuff said the FIRST to attack the UN didn't it? And it highlighted FIRST.

[Skirmisher]

Not sure what you mean Sharpe? The first to attack the UN what?

[Sharpe]

I have to warn you, that UN is not a toothless dog you can play with. There are reinforcements coming if our forces are attacked. We will move our troops as well to positions where we can block the expansion of the warring side that FIRST attacked the UN.

This does seem rather specific doesn't it?

[Tanker]

Anyone know when the game kicks off?

[Skirmisher]

I dont Tanker,I got an e-mail from a UN rep in case we need to say anything to them in private.

Should we cut a deal with the UN?

For orders I'm thinking search and destroy anything in sector O,unless numerically superior force,
sector N will move avoiding ememies ,report only,and move into sector O.
A small recon force will move west of N,
forces in sector I will move south avoiding and reporting unless encountering smaller force.
and send a recon force west.

[Tanker]

I dont Tanker,I got an e-mail from a UN rep in case we need to say anything to them in private.

Should we cut a deal with the UN?

For orders I'm thinking search and destroy anything in sector O,unless numerically superior force,
sector N will move avoiding ememies ,report only,and move into sector O.
A small recon force will move west of N,
forces in sector I will move south avoiding and reporting unless encountering smaller force.
and send a recon force west.

Maybe we can tell them that if they ever require help at one of the cities we will respond because we know they are here to help stabilize our poor country :love: Hopefully we can team up against the Rebs.

We will need to take cities some time however or we will be out produced.

As to your orders, I agree with them. Perhaps we are overcautious but I'd rather know what I'm dealing with before jumping in. I still don't know how many turns this will last, so I don't know how agressive we must be.

[Sharpe]

Let's make sure that sector N is clear before we move out of it. If sector O is empty and sector N actually contains rebels we may have to move everything to N, and leave scouts in O.

[Sharpe]

Hi Skirmisher

I noticed that the UN has offered to deal with us privately. I think we should take them up on it.

The only reason we have for taking UN cities is weapons, and the need to gain an advantage over the Rebels. If the UN know that
we'll leave them alone provided they help us get that advantage
then it could work for both parties. If they trusted us enough we
could probably deploy troops in the same zones and make use of their strengths( Tanker's idea).

Not sure who'd win the campaign( us or the UN) but at least those Marxist Terrorists wouldn't. :bandit:

[Skirmisher]

Ok I will tell the UN we will work with them and not attack them.


The forces in zone N, What would be the correct orders to give them?

[Sharpe]

Depends what intel DD gives us prior to the deadline for issuing orders. I guess if he tells us our scouts have detected a force in Zone O and/or Zone N we can decide on our next move. If one of those zones is clear we'd probably have to spell out the fact that the scouts we leave there are to observe only and avoid detection. Do not engage the enemy etc and withdraw in the face of superior numbers. That way DD can work out the 'probability' of their being spotted by the Rebels i suppose. If they're actually trying to conceal their presence we may get away with it.

Is this what you meant? Check with DD if in doubt. :)

[Skirmisher]

He allready gave us the intell,the rest we find out ourselves.

[Tanker]

I would suggest we start with the bulk of our forces in O, I believe it was. Put light scout forces to the west. Put either light scout forces or 1-2 companies to east and south where the intel has said the rebels might be.

Orders: (suggestion)

Scouting forces: observe, report, stay hidden, withdraw to main force if discovered by superior force.

If detached company, same as scouts but if opportunity to smash weaker element arises do so.

Main force: be prepared for receiving attack, foxholes and barbed wire but no field fortifications, be prepared to move out on short notice.

My 2 cents

[Double Deuce]

He allready gave us the intell,the rest we find out ourselves.
I will be providing a little more INTEL this weekend so you can develop more detailed planning. I hope to have all orders submitted by next Friday and we will go from there.

[Skirmisher]

Tanker ,our troops are officially deployed already.
See post on the subject under orders.

Intell indicates that rebels are indeed close bye as well. :devious:

[Skirmisher]

Im thinking now that we should engage the enemy in zone N right away,roll the dice,since the main concentration is in the northwest.

When you look at the map of the island is zone N south of zone G in your opinions?

Depending on how you look at it we may be in the enemy zones right now.

[Sharpe]

The point i've been trying to make is that we have to be open-minded about which zone we occupy(N or O); it's possible that the Rebels are in N and not O (don't ask me why i keep harping on that point ;)

Also, 1 company is too weak to leave on it's own and too valuable to lose, whereas 1 squad or at most 1 platoon is less valuable. A squad can probably gather intel as well as a company without the risk, allowing the rest of the army to stay concentrated.

[Sharpe]

My spies have informed me that the main Rebel force is opposite the SE city, within range but not looking our way. That may change. Also some small to medium units on the river(1,2 or 3 Co's). We need to work out if its true, but no indication that Rebels are North of river.

[Skirmisher]

We still have the better part of a week to hammer out the first orders.
What I'm saying is I believe we can take the force in zone N,being that the highest concentration of rebels is in the north west of city G ,I was sugesting we take the gamble and attack whatever forces we find in zone N
We use same strategy in zone O.
We are allready in these Zones,yes we must recon further,I think cheapest way out there would be to use the actually scouts sections from the various infantry companies,some could be more mobile(scout cars with scout teams riding them)

I think the forces in zone I will head south and meet up ASAP with the main forces.

I dont mind if you keep harping on something.
I look at it like we are all congressmen and I've been appointed speaker of the house for this campaign.
We need to talk so we can all be involved,we still have not heard fron the 2 silent ones,
Waape and Nemo2.

[Skirmisher]

I didnt see that spy information how reliable is that?

[Sharpe]

Reliable? It may have been disinformation! Temujin :nuts:

[Sharpe]

It's a good plan!

[Double Deuce]

We need to talk so we can all be involved,we still have not heard fron the 2 silent ones,
Waape and Nemo2.
Since neither has repsonded to my emails nor have they posted here since joining the forum, I have removed their access to the secure areas. If they show up I will reinstate their access, but for now it it just you guys.

[Waape]

Hello All,

sorry for not being available so far. I have read through the posts, and I think that we should concentrate in N, closing down the road, so the UN cannot reinforce the North. However, we should ask them to move to South, in this case they should be given free pass.

As far as rebels, if we know where they are, they should be engaged, especially if we can mass a greater force in that sector. For example, if they are in N, then we should move everything from O to N, this way we would have a big army there, wiping out everything they might have in that sector.

If I have other ideas, I will continue telling them.
Waape

[Sharpe]

Hi guys

The orders are now posted and sadly we're on our own. I don't know if the Reb's got to them first, but the UN can't or won't do a deal and it doesn't look like we'll get any intel from them either. Maybe they're playing hard to get. Who knows?

We'll have to take the chance that the Rebel force in the NW don't move in behind us on the road. But really, do we care? :smoke:

[Skirmisher]

We must care,otherwise we would have taken a holiday on one of the other Islands.