Polish airforce post fall of Poland.

[FaneFlugt]

Whats the position of the board concerning, using the surviving polish airforce after the fall of Poland?
My bomber and fighter survived. I cant disband them, and my opponent has requested me to do so, or fly them to the US and place them in rest position.

Are they Free polish or ghost units?

[Mantis]

First off, I've never seen the airforce fail to withdraw with the surrender of the Polish forces - are you uplaying TOAW III? You could also be playing a newer version of the scenario than I am, can you tell me if the two colors on the air units are the same as the regular Polish land forces? (Foreground and background color).

As to what to do with them - I'd say use them. If you look in the briefing, it provides Mark's take on 'survivors'.

we suggest that these units be regarded as volunteers fleeing to friendly territory and reforming in exile, fascist die-hards, by-passed units forming large groups of partisans, etc. They add a welcome element of uncertainty into the scenario.

As always, any houserules are subject to agreement by you and your opponent prior to starting a game. But sometimes things that had not been considered crop up, and in the absence of a pre-game agreement, I'd suggest going with the suggested houserule from the briefing.

And, to be frank, the couple units you're getting will likely not be the force that swings the tide of war in favor of the Allies, so it's not a big deal anyway. I've got two games going in which something happened I've never seen before - the entire French navy has reconstituted after the fall of France (!). I don't recall the navy being sunk when the surrender went through, so it was a bit of a surprise. But, in one game as the Allies and one as the Axis, even that has failed to make any noticeable difference whatsoever in the balance of power.

Basically, just look at it as a little bit of extra flavor!

[FaneFlugt]

They are Red with a white background. Im Playing the Scenario from the Strategist net. I think regualr polish units are the same if i remember correctly. I also have two polish corps running around in the USSR trying to get to the western allies :angry: (Siberian Chezch legion in 1920 anyone)

Will try to convince my opponent that i can keep them.

Thx for the input give me more leverage when a 5000 + poster sways in my favour:D

[Mantis]

They are Red with a white background. Im Playing the Scenario from the Strategist net. I think regualr polish units are the same if i remember correctly. I also have two polish corps running around in the USSR trying to get to the western allies :angry: (Siberian Chezch legion in 1920 anyone)

The planes are yours, no worries. I think it's likely that they were wiped out during his blitz of Poland, and they reconstituted (appeared as reinforcements), yes? As to the free Poles, I prefer using them with Britain as well, but sometimes you're simply stuck with them in Russia until Barbarossa, at which time I always send them to the UK areas.

Will try to convince my opponent that i can keep them.

Thx for the input give me more leverage when a 5000 + poster sways in my favour:D

:laugh: I would have to say that I am the undisputed Europe Aflame Fan #1. I doubt there's anyone here who even comes close to being as big of a freak as I am when it comes to EA. :D It's the only scenario I play. To be honest, I only became a regular here when Mark moved the official forum here - so all those thousands of posts are largely due to EA as well.

On the serious side, though, I really hope you don't have any problems with your opponent in regards to this. It shouldn't be a big deal. If he isn't convinced, just direct him here, as this is the official forum on the official site for all things EA, so there shouldn't be any ambiguity. ;)

[Mark Stevens]

It's quite likely that the same will happen to him, admittedly later in the game should you get that far, with the Rumanians, Bulgarians, Finns, Hungarians, Itallians, Croats, Vichy, Spanish if they're activated and conceivably an Arab, Persian or two.

It's never enough to fatally unbalance a game of this scale (like a handful of Polish aircraft) and there were all sorts of little odds and sods fighting for both sides after their countries surrendered. I could dig up a few examples - I'm sure that about 10% of the RAF during the summer of 1940 consisted of Poles, Czechs, US volunteers, etc., and there were Greeks fighting in the Desert after the country surrendered. Quite a few naval vessels escaped to join the Royal Navy.

It's just the different colouration and the fact that they're still called 'Greek Army', or whatever, that makes it look a little odd.