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CyberRanger
05 Mar 04, 09:53
I've encountered a possible issue with one of the TOs for the Axis side.
I e-mailed Pelle the details and figured I might as well see if anybody else has run into this.
In a recent hotseat game to put the scenario through it's paces, I selected the German TO "early entry of 19th Pz Div". When this TO is selected, the German player gets control of IT 8th Army for the duration of the scenario.
In my case, I only had control of IT 8th Army support units, IT II Corps and German 298th Inf Div.
IT Alpine Corps, IT 35th Corps and IT 29th Corps were still frozen.
Is anybody aware of a turn delay on this TO??
I tried this using ver 1.50 and all the above units are un-frozen.
Panzerpelle
05 Mar 04, 10:11
I tried this using ver 1.50 and all the above units are un-frozen.
TDFLM
Would it be possible to setup a temporary forum here on WHQ for team chatter? Maybe assign it a password and have COs distribute it to gain access to the forum (easiest way I think, rather than individually assigning players access).
The whole idea of a mailing list conversation is unappealing as any kind of active conversation is looking at dozens of emails filling up mailboxes daily.
CyberRanger
05 Mar 04, 21:57
... for team chatter?
The only chatter that needs to occur among the nasty Germans is figuring out how soon to surrender to the mighty Red Army!!! :devil:
CyberRanger
05 Mar 04, 21:59
Would it be possible to setup a temporary forum here on WHQ for team chatter? Maybe assign it a password and have COs distribute it to gain access to the forum (easiest way I think, rather than individually assigning players access).
The whole idea of a mailing list conversation is unappealing as any kind of active conversation is looking at dozens of emails filling up mailboxes daily.
.... but really ... that's a great idea if possible. I figure this tourney could easily run six months so a temporary forum for each team would be handy.
(edit ... I posted the question on the staff forum.)
The only chatter that needs to occur among the nasty Germans is figuring out how soon to surrender to the mighty Red Army!!! :devil:
Hah, "mighty" and "Red Army"... there's an oxymoron. :cheeky:
(edit ... I posted the question on the staff forum.)
Danke.
Hah, "mighty" and "Red Army"... there's an oxymoron. :cheeky:
I second that...:p
CyberRanger
08 Mar 04, 09:40
Pelle - does it matter what the Air Assistant is set to on turn 1? Does the Axis player need to make sure it is on or off?
Thanks!
Always off, no matter the scenario.
It affects both players, so if player 1 toggles it, it changes player 2's air unit deployment status during player 1's turn. Very annoying and can be used maliciously.
Panzerpelle
08 Mar 04, 12:38
Pelle - does it matter what the Air Assistant is set to on turn 1? Does the Axis player need to make sure it is on or off?
Thanks!
I havent thought of that...any suggestions?
Panzerpelle
08 Mar 04, 12:38
Always off, no matter the scenario.
It affects both players, so if player 1 toggles it, it changes player 2's air unit deployment status during player 1's turn. Very annoying and can be used maliciously.
Agree /w MikeJ here...
Always off, no matter the scenario.
It affects both players, so if player 1 toggles it, it changes player 2's air unit deployment status during player 1's turn. Very annoying and can be used maliciously.
Yes and I'm pretty sure it's not set by the scenario. There must have been some wrong-box checking when the scenario was first opened.
When are we starting? If it helps ill be a son of the motherland
CyberRanger
09 Mar 04, 16:01
When are we starting? If it helps ill be a son of the motherland
As soon as Mantis gets back on-line ... maybe tomorrow.
If you want to be a Soviet, say the word! But that's not delaying the tourney start.
ok Westpointer ill enrole in the Red Army
CyberRanger
09 Mar 04, 19:50
ok Westpointer ill enrole in the Red Army
Well okay! That puts Francis Nash and Gambit on the German side. The teams are now even with everyone assigned and Conao ready to sub!!!
Here's what I have:
Axis
Becker (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Bruce (confirmed 4-Mar-04) CO
Dagger5 (confirmed 6-Mar-04)
Digger (confirmed 7-Mar-04)
Francis Nash (confirmed 5-Mar-04)
Furocity (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Gambit (confirmed 8-Mar-04)
General Staff (confirmed 7-Mar-04) out until the 19th
MikeJ (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Nemo (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
PanzerGIII (confirmed 6-Mar-04)
RangerBooBoo (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
RavenStrike (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
TigerSqn (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Vindex (confirmed 7-Mar-04)
Viridomaros (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Soviet
CyberGeneral (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Fast Heinz (confirmed 6-Mar-04) (cannot start until 3/20)
Foggy (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
GunnerC (confirmed 4-Mar-04) (offline April 3rd - 17)
Heinz57 (confirmed 5-Mar-04)
JLBetin (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
JoeBob (confirmed 6-Mar-04)
Keef (confirmed 6-Mar-04)
Laszlo.Nemedi (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Plutonico (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Polynike (confirmed 5-Mar-04)
Snefens (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Southern Dandy (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Tiberius (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
WestPointer (confirmed 4-Mar-04) CO
Zhukovman (confirmed 7-Mar-04)
Subs
Conao (confirmed 4-Mar-04)
Southern Dandy
10 Mar 04, 00:58
Greetings all--
Just wanted to let the team captains and whomever I am slotted against to know the following:
Due to work considerations, I will have extremely limited computer access from mid-morning tomorrow (Wed) until Friday morning. I will be out of town during that time span, but will be willing (and hopefully able!) to put the hurt on some unfortunate Axis team representative thereafter. :devil: :devious:
Now back to your regularly scheduled program.... :nuts:
John
Quick question:
"After operation Koltso begins, the Axis player receives 1 VP per turn until the occupation of Stalingrad by the Red Army. If the German pocket at Stalingrad holds out for the duration of the scenario a total of approx.10 VPs is awarded."
What hex detremines if the "German pocket at Stalingrad holds out"?
CyberRanger
11 Mar 04, 06:15
Quick question:
What hex detremines if the "German pocket at Stalingrad holds out"?
My understanding is the Stalingrad vp hex.
Panzerpelle
11 Mar 04, 08:54
My understanding is the Stalingrad vp hex.
Correct!
Gents, I've listened to much discussion on the format for TOs, and I think we're best served to play this game as Pelle intended it. It's time to do the pairings! COs, please slot your players numerically, and email me the list. As soon as I have both of them, I'll start a new read-only thread with all the tourney info, the pairings, etc.
Once the pairings are done, I'd like the CO to create a PW for each player's slot on his team, and email it to him. Players *must* use the PWs they are assigned, failure to do so will see you banned from the next tourney!
Players will contact their opponents, and discuss how many TOs they wish to use in their game. 1, 2, or 3. This is how a standard game goes; you contact your opponent, agree to play, and then agree on how many each side gets. We're going to emulate that here, so that the players are free to answer this question for themselves.
Please report your decision regarding TOs in your game to your COs, who will compile a list to send to me that will contain all players in their slots, complete with PW and TOs. I'll remove the PW info, post the rest, and then Brent can update the tourney page.
Let's get it on!
I'll leave the call to Mantis but I think that would be okay.
I'll put you down on the German side until I hear otherwise from the big insect!
:laugh:
Yes, that's fine, especially since you are letting us know off the get-go. Please just mention it to whichever player you get paired against.
Good luck!
You're in, if there's an open slot.
Gents, my apologies, but I've had trouble first with my cable connection, and then with some hardware that had to be replaced. I've received weel over 300 emails in the past week, and ones that were work related had to be sorted through first. They're *all* done now, and I have about a zillion reports and registrations to sort through. That will be completed today, so anyone that has registered by not been added in yet, don't fret!
Brent, do you have the most recent version of the scenario? We need to have it posted in this thread, in the scenario archive, and available directly from the tourney page.
Email sent to Pelle to confirm I have the most recent version.
CyberRanger
11 Mar 04, 15:58
Brent, do you have the most recent version of the scenario? We need to have it posted in this thread, in the scenario archive, and available directly from the tourney page.
Yes, most recent version, 1.50, is linked from the tourney page. It is available in the scenario depot.
Welcome Back!
CyberRanger
11 Mar 04, 16:01
... please slot your players numerically, and email me the list.
I don't understand what you want here. Are the CO's getting any input into the match-ups or do you simply want a list of our players from 1 to 16? Alpha listing? Listing by who we think is "best"?
Let's get it on!
YES!
CyberRanger
11 Mar 04, 17:01
Players will contact their opponents, and discuss how many TOs they wish to use in their game. 1, 2, or 3. This is how a standard game goes; you contact your opponent, agree to play, and then agree on how many each side gets. We're going to emulate that here, so that the players are free to answer this question for themselves.
Yeah ... but ... what if they don't agree!?!?
In a "standard game" the players decide to play each other and can decide not to play each other if they can't agree. I can easily see a player thinking that less or more TO's is to his advantage, counter to what his opponent thinks. What to do then?
(Edit: Mantis is going to kick me out of the forums!!! :dead: )
Panzerpelle
12 Mar 04, 02:23
Email sent to Pelle to confirm I have the most recent version.
Its in the WFHQ archievs and on www.tdg.nu featured scenario page...
Happy to hear from you again...
I don't understand what you want here. Are the CO's getting any input into the match-ups or do you simply want a list of our players from 1 to 16? Alpha listing? Listing by who we think is "best"?
Yeah ... but ... what if they don't agree!?!?
In a "standard game" the players decide to play each other and can decide not to play each other if they can't agree. I can easily see a player thinking that less or more TO's is to his advantage, counter to what his opponent thinks. What to do then?
(Edit: Mantis is going to kick me out of the forums!!! :dead: )
<The dark hall of the temple is dimly lit by arrays of candles. The hooded and robed figure in front of the great stone dais underneath the menacing, looming statue of some giant insect creature passes his hands through the divination smoke and makes his pronouncement:>
"The entrails read that the great Mantis means that the lists of players will be matched up with each other on a number by number basis, the first on the list of the Germans will be matched with the first on the list of the Russians, etc. If players don't agree how many TOs to use they must play by Pelle's rules. Oh great Mantis if I have mis-divined your words or offended you in any way, please spare me my humble life and continue to allow me to play the TOAW game which I so crave."
PanzerGIII
12 Mar 04, 09:50
Well Tiberius since you have checked the entrails and all things seem to be in order how many TO's would you like to select and then lets rock this baby :devil: I would be your numerical opponent and I am reday when ever you are Regards Matt
"The entrails read that the great Mantis means that the lists of players will be matched up with each other on a number by number basis, the first on the list of the Germans will be matched with the first on the list of the Russians, etc. If players don't agree how many TOs to use they must play by Pelle's rules. Oh great Mantis if I have mis-divined your words or offended you in any way, please spare me my humble life and continue to allow me to play the TOAW game which I so crave."Indeed, but which lists? Those on the Wintergewitter tourney page? I should then establish contact with CyberGeneral to determine the number of TOs available to each of us and then report to my CO? We definetely need some divine light cast upon our gloomy existences... :p
PanzerGIII
12 Mar 04, 09:58
Damn ..... :cry: forgot about the password thing :angry: guess I am still waiting. Hopefully I will not be waiting till the :cow: 's come home :D
CyberRanger
12 Mar 04, 10:18
Indeed, but which lists? Those on the Wintergewitter tourney page? I should then establish contact with CyberGeneral to determine the number of TOs available to each of us and then report to my CO? We definetely need some divine light cast upon our gloomy existences... :p
The ball is rolling ... patience my friends. The list is something I made up and something Bruce made up. Neither know the sequence of the other's list. Mantis is going to match my #1 with Bruce's #1, #2 with #2, etc. It is basically a blind matchup.
Once Mantis has finished the matchup, he'll release the list so each player can contact his opponent to discuss the type of game (number of TO's.) IF the opponents cannot agree on the number of TO's, the game will be played along historical lines - Germans to the south, Soviets to the north, and the Soviet player will select the Little Saturn TO on turn 4.
Meanwhile, the CO for each side will contact his team to establish passwords. I plan to have one password that every Soviet will use.
Can we ask for a particular opponent? Dagger 5 has been kicking my ass on a regular basis - would like the possibility of payback :cheeky:
If you like i will beat up yer ass, :D
for free;on special events like this :D
I don't understand what you want here. Are the CO's getting any input into the match-ups or do you simply want a list of our players from 1 to 16? Alpha listing? Listing by who we think is "best"?
YES!Slot 'em in wherever you feel lucky. What the two of you give to me stands. No, there's no 'thought' involved.
Yeah ... but ... what if they don't agree!?!?
In a "standard game" the players decide to play each other and can decide not to play each other if they can't agree. I can easily see a player thinking that less or more TO's is to his advantage, counter to what his opponent thinks. What to do then?
(Edit: Mantis is going to kick me out of the forums!!! :dead: )
I believe I've covered this in an email. I don't think we'll see much problems in this department. If we do, I'll resolve all disputes randomly.
<The dark hall of the temple is dimly lit by arrays of candles. The hooded and robed figure in front of the great stone dais underneath the menacing, looming statue of some giant insect creature passes his hands through the divination smoke and makes his pronouncement:>
"The entrails read that the great Mantis means that the lists of players will be matched up with each other on a number by number basis, the first on the list of the Germans will be matched with the first on the list of the Russians, etc. If players don't agree how many TOs to use they must play by Pelle's rules. Oh great Mantis if I have mis-divined your words or offended you in any way, please spare me my humble life and continue to allow me to play the TOAW game which I so crave."
"You have enterpreted our words correctly, oh great profit, but now thy use has come to an end..." (Spears Tiberius with an errant swipe of the tail - picking teeth with bones)
Any questions?
:D
CyberRanger
13 Mar 04, 06:56
Slot 'em in wherever you feel lucky. What the two of you give to me stands. No, there's no 'thought' involved.
I've shown you mine. Bruce has showed you his. We are ready to see the matchups! Please post great insect! :cheeky:
The list will be posted in a moment. First off, a quick change - if players can't agree on the TOs, historical options will be taken. (The standard historical game).
I don't have a list from Bruce yet.
CyberRanger
14 Mar 04, 09:28
I don't have a list from Bruce yet.You should have Bruce's list now. Yes?
Axis team:
1 Viridomaros
2. Nemo
3. General Staff (switch to #3 - 3/15/04 by WestPointer)
4. Furocity
5. Becker
6. MikeJ (switch to #6 - 3/15/04 by WestPointer)
7. Digger
8. Gambit
9. Francis Nash
10. Bruce
11. RangerBooBoo
12. Dagger5
13. Ravenstrike
14. TigerSqn
15 PanzerGIII
16. Vindex
Russian team:
1. Plutonico
2. CyberGeneral
3. Fast Heinz (cannot start until 3/20.)
4. Foggy
5. Polynike
6. GunnerC
7. Heinz57
8. JLBetin
9. Laszlo.Nemedi
10. JoeBob
11. Keef
12. Snefens
13. Zhukovman
14. Southern Dandy
15. Tiberius
16. WestPointer (CO)
TEAMS!
Do NOT begin your games yet! Your COs must deliver a unique password to you that you must use for your game. This is to ensure that games will be completed; by subs, if need be.
Everyone, please check in when you have decided the amount of TOs you will use with your opponent, that you have received your PW, and you are ready to go. COs will report to me, completing this list with all the information received.
We will begin the tourney when this is done.
Wasn't Fast Heinz supposed to be paired with someone (forget who) on the Axis side who was a late starter?
General Staff, I think.
Should I just swap and play General Staff's opponent or.. ?
I've EMailed Brent - I think the most sensible thing is to just swap and play General Staff's opponent.
CyberRanger
15 Mar 04, 08:26
I've EMailed Brent - I think the most sensible thing is to just swap and play General Staff's opponent.GS and Fast Heinz will be back at the end of the week but I guess there's no reason to make two more players wait even that long.
So .... switch made.
General Staff vs Fast Heinz in the #3 slot.
MikeJ vs GunnerC in the #6 slot.
CyberRanger
15 Mar 04, 08:46
Tournament page updated to reflect the matchups. As each battle is confirmed (passwords received and TO's agreed upon), post that info here and then I'll update the tournament page to reflect that.
laszlo.nemedi
15 Mar 04, 16:14
I looked for Francis Nash but cannot locate on the ladder, so no email address of him I have...
Pleeeaase help me...
CyberRanger
15 Mar 04, 16:29
I looked for Francis Nash but cannot locate on the ladder, so no email address of him I have...
Pleeeaase help me...
check your email ... I sent a message to both of you.
btw ... he is on the inactive ladder.
CyberRanger
16 Mar 04, 07:08
I thought it may be helpful to number and describe the 4 game types:
1. Historical - Soviets deploy North, Germans South, and the Soviets select Little Saturn TO on turn 4.
2. Each side selects one deployment TO (any location).
3. Each side selects one deployment TO and one non-deployment TO (2 TO's total.)
4. Each side selects one deployment TO and two non-deployment TO's (3 TO's total.)
Everyone checking in wth your COs?
CyberRanger
16 Mar 04, 19:22
Everyone checking in wth your COs?All the Soviets have confirmed the p/w expect for one ... JoeBob, where are you? Too much time in the Officer's Club!!!!!
At least two have also confirmed TO's with their opponent. They await the green light to start!
LoL...JoeBob is probably out enjoying this fantastic weather we're having out here on the Left Coast.
Brent - you can start any pair so long as both COs have confirmation, have given out the PWs, etc.
Good luck, gents!
Phew!!!
Sorry about that, had to wash off all the suntan oil I've been putting on lately. What month is this anyway, I'm starting to forget? June, July....something like that. :cool:
And yes, I've suddenly been welcomed into the officer's club! Nice suprise! 2 1/2 years as a grunt, well-spent playing all those fantabulous games of TOAW.
And the well-stocked bar (think i'll have a shot of Wild Turkey to start things off...) and the AC are quite welcome (wouldn't want the presses to come out of my starched shirt, now). And honorable company as well! :hurray:
Ahhhh yessss, it is nice in here, I must admit. But time to get off my duff, don my helmet, fire up my tank and head off to battle again. An officer's work is never done. Especially when you're just a Lutenant...
And bartender can you make that a double Stoli martini, dry, up with a twist? I'm off to Russia now, and need to start drinking that vodka they have over there. Oh hell, give me the whole damn bottle!!! And make sure to send a case/week to share with the staff! :drink:
Game ON!!! :coolban: :banana: :coolban:
JoeBob
Brent, I thought you'd be sending me a password, but I'll think up one and send it you instead. It's..... :hush:
CyberRanger
17 Mar 04, 08:07
Brent - you can start any pair so long as both COs have confirmation, have given out the PWs, etc.
Good luck, gents!
Game on! All my players (expect Fast Heinz who won't be back until this weekend) have comfirmed a password.
So ... agree on those TO's, let us know what it is, and (if your German opponent is set for his password) fire away!
CyberRanger
17 Mar 04, 09:49
Posted by WestPointer:
Pelle, could you clarify turn 1 activities?
My understanding is that the ONLY action a player takes on turn 1 is selecting TO's. To help clarify, can a player do any of the actions below on turn 1?
1. change air formation assignments (air superiority, et al)?
2. dig in/fortify units?
3. change unit loss tolerance (ignore losses, etc.)?
Thanks!
Reply from Pelle:
Only to choose TO...Not doing anything else....The scenario starts on turn 2...
Hah, the Soviet commander can't even be bothered to issue passwords to his troops!
What kind of command structure is that! Troops of the Soviet Union give up now. Join the Axis forces, where things are properly organised.
(Sound of diabolical sniggering)
CyberRanger
17 Mar 04, 14:24
...
What kind of command structure is that! ....ah ... the joys of mis-information!
CyberRanger
17 Mar 04, 14:25
Hah, the Soviet commander can't even be bothered to issue passwords to his troops!
What kind of command structure is that! Troops of the Soviet Union give up now. Join the Axis forces, where things are properly organised.
(Sound of diabolical sniggering)BTW ... please tell Vindex what he should do so we can get started!
need an email address for becker..can any1 help?
polynike
CyberRanger
17 Mar 04, 14:49
need an email address for becker..can any1 help?
polynikeI emailed it to you.
viridomaros
18 Mar 04, 04:50
need an email address for becker..can any1 help?
polynike
bonkertje@hotmail.com
thanks guys email has been sent
no use canuas@hotmail.com
RavenStrike
25 Mar 04, 06:29
Anyone heard from Zhukovman? It's been close to a week since he's had turn 2. He said he played the turn and would e-mail the file, but no further word. Any help would be appreciated.
CyberRanger
25 Mar 04, 08:33
Anyone heard from Zhukovman? ..He viewed the forum on Mar 23rd. From the Soviet forum ...
Still waiting for turn 3. ....
apparently you guys have a comm problem. I sent him an email.
RavenStrike - can you check to make sure you didn't get his turn 2?
RavenStrike
25 Mar 04, 10:53
I received an e-mail from him on the 23rd, saying he had played the turn but not yet sent the file. Some problem with his PC at work. But haven't heard from him since. Have sent several more e-mails, but no answer.
RavenStrike
25 Mar 04, 13:56
Call off the search. Zhukovman has returned and sent the last turn.
CyberRanger
25 Mar 04, 21:36
PanzerGIII has had to withdraw. Can we just have the sub and Tiberius start from the beginning?
Conao - are you still willing to play?
I think PanzerIIIG's game was only at the first turn anyway - I'm happy for them to start over.
Looking for Gambit ????
Did someone have news ??
I agreed for 3 TOs and told him I waited for his 1st turn. It was the 20th of March, since this date nothing !!!
Thanks to inform me
Der WanderWaiting
PanzerGIII has had to withdraw. Can we just have the sub and Tiberius start from the beginning?
Conao - are you still willing to play?
YES, ready for orders! But please, make them as clear as possible... this is my first tournament and I'm affraid I'm not very much familiarized with the procedures. :rolleyes:
laszlo.nemedi
27 Mar 04, 08:46
YES, ready for orders! But please, make them as clear as possible... this is my first tournament and I'm affraid I'm not very much familiarized with the procedures. :rolleyes:
The most important is to surrender on turn 2.
We will assign then a gevochka to please you... :D
YES, ready for orders! But please, make them as clear as possible... this is my first tournament and I'm affraid I'm not very much familiarized with the procedures. :rolleyes:Welcome aboard Conao!
Do not take your orders from these guys - they are Stavka!!! - you are supposed to report to OKH/OKW (i.e. Bruce). Get in touch with him through email to arrange the details and be ready to crush some Soviet cannon fodder :D.
Best of luck!
laszlo.nemedi
27 Mar 04, 09:28
Welcome aboard Conao!
Do not take your orders from these guys - they are Stavka!!! - you are supposed to report to OKH/OKW (i.e. Bruce). Get in touch with him through email to arrange the details and be ready to crush some Soviet cannon fodder :D.
Best of luck!
You can report to the OKH, but don't forget the surrender thing... :devil:
You can report to the OKH, but don't forget the surrender thing... :devil:How do you spell it in Russian? :p
laszlo.nemedi
27 Mar 04, 09:46
How do you spell it in Russian? :p
Капитуляция... :D
Got 1st turn from Gambit, everything ok,
Surrender in Russian easy -> NEMO :D
Der WanderNananère
CyberRanger
27 Mar 04, 10:54
Got 1st turn from Gambit, everything ok,
Surrender in Russian easy -> NEMO :D
Der WanderNananèreLOL!!!
CyberRanger
27 Mar 04, 10:56
We no longer have any substitutes in reserve. Anyone interested on going on the offical Wintergewitter tournament sub list???
Surrender in Russian easy -> NEMO :D I guess you are some kind of political commissar? Let me re-read my orders... mmmhh... mmmhhh... ah! there it is : "... members of any military comitee will be shot on the spot and without delay...". Now, where the hell did I send my firing squad? :D
Of course, you can kapitulieren at any given time and spare yourself that unpleasant fate :p...
I guess you are some kind of political commissar? Let me re-read my orders... mmmhh... mmmhhh... ah! there it is : "... members of any military comitee will be shot on the spot and without delay...". Now, where the hell did I send my firing squad? :D
Of course, you can kapitulieren at any given time and spare yourself that unpleasant fate :p...
You representant of the great capitalism, you will finish your miserable life in salt mine in Siberia.
Huurah pobebia, hurrah stalin, hurrah the for the Party representant of the workers and peasant of this beloved country the great CCCP
Der WanderNKVD
Welcome aboard Conao!
Do not take your orders from these guys - they are Stavka!!! - you are supposed to report to OKH/OKW (i.e. Bruce). Get in touch with him through email to arrange the details and be ready to crush some Soviet cannon fodder :D.
Best of luck!
Unfortunately, "cannon fodder" is not what I can read from Tiberius in the Ladder... :surprise:
Since this will be my first game not against the PO and my first West Front scenario, I think that is was Tiberius who hit the jackpot! :dead: So, I am opened to any advice... from the Germans, of course!
You can report to the OKH, but don't forget the surrender thing... :devil:
:nuts: NUTS!!! :nuts:
CyberRanger
27 Mar 04, 14:25
YES, ready for orders! But please, make them as clear as possible... this is my first tournament and I'm affraid I'm not very much familiarized with the procedures. :rolleyes:Siberian HEAT ... would you please give Conao access to the Axis Wintergewitter forum and remove access for PanzerGIII?
Thanks!
Unfortunately, "cannon fodder" is not what I can read from Tiberius in the Ladder... :surprise:
Since this will be my first game not against the PO and my first West Front scenario, I think that is was Tiberius who hit the jackpot! :dead: So, I am opened to any advice... from the Germans, of course!
:devil: :D
Heh, heh, Conao, well I am not that fearsome. :( :)
I sent you an email to get the festivities started. Looking forward to getting going! :cool: :devil:
I sent you an email to get the festivities started.
oops, got a bounce on your email from the ladder. Send me an email - my mail on the ladder should work.
oops, got a bounce on your email from the ladder. Send me an email - my mail on the ladder should work.
Well, afterall, it seems that it was not so easy to breach my defenses! Got your recon squads back under fire! :D
Sorry for the incovenient, my ISP seems to be a bit confused this week. :nuts:
You should have got a mail from me now. If don't, please post here again, until we have it "running".
Siberian HEAT ... would you please give Conao access to the Axis Wintergewitter forum and remove access for PanzerGIII?
Did anybody hear anything from Siberian HEAT in the last few days? I haven't got access to the Axis Forum yet and, so, haven't started anything with Tiberius. I would like to take a look in the Forum before move on...
Anybody else that could give me this access?
CyberRanger
01 Apr 04, 16:44
Did anybody hear anything from Siberian HEAT in the last few days? I haven't got access to the Axis Forum yet and, so, haven't started anything with Tiberius. I would like to take a look in the Forum before move on...
Anybody else that could give me this access?I sent him a PM.
CyberRanger
07 Apr 04, 08:45
I've made some updates to the tournament webpage. (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml)
Of the most interest, I've added a matrix (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml#battles) for seeing the deployments selected in each game. Once either side feels comfortable (no more OPSEC concerns) stating the deployments chosen by each side, please email me (address below) with what was picked for your game. I figure the Axis deployment option is obvious on turn 2 but the Soviet option may not be.
Thx!
CyberRanger
10 Apr 04, 08:35
..I've added a matrix (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml#battles) for seeing the deployments selected in each game...
All but three games are now on the matrix listing.
laszlo.nemedi
10 Apr 04, 11:23
All but three games are now on the matrix listing.
It is really interesting.
My favourit is there the players chose the center both side, what a lucky hands...
Hi all.
I would be happy if I can play the tournament... I can play a turn every 1-2 days.
Glad to have met you.
We've already started the tournament, but we are desperately in need of subs. We'd be more than happy to add you in as such, if you're willing.
I accept the offer to be a officer in the reserve, until the critical day to be mobilized. :cheeky:
CyberRanger
04 May 04, 15:08
I accept the offer to be a officer in the reserve, until the critical day to be mobilized. :cheeky:
Lister - please check your private messages. Thanks!
CyberRanger
05 May 04, 09:08
I accept the offer to be a officer in the reserve, until the critical day to be mobilized. :cheeky:
Lister has been mobilized! He will be replacing Snefens in the battle against the evil Dagger5.
fast Heinz
07 May 04, 13:06
I have been getting error messages since 4/30 on everything that I try to send you. Attempted 3 times to send turn. I think it is a promblem with MY ISP. I am working on it. I will try again from another computer.
Sorry FH
In cases like this, please feel free to zip the turn file, and attach it to this (or a specially named) thread, to assist you both in getting the files through. All we ask is that once the file is old, and no longer required, that you edit your post and remove the attachment, to help us prevent forum bloat!
In cases like this, please feel free to zip the turn file, and attach it to this (or a specially named) thread, to assist you both in getting the files through. All we ask is that once the file is old, and no longer required, that you edit your post and remove the attachment, to help us prevent forum bloat!
Do it for Gambit but I've no news !!!!
Der WanderScaredtoBealoneInTheGame:confused:
I've pinged him through a PM here. We'll see what's up!
I've pinged him through a PM here. We'll see what's up!THXS A LOT
DerWanderTired
CyberRanger
19 May 04, 14:45
I've posted some updates on the Wintergewitter tourney page.
We now have 2 Axis victories, 1 Soviet victory, and a game at T43!
CyberRanger
21 May 04, 11:05
Another SOVIET Victory!!!! :D
laszlo.nemedi
21 May 04, 11:12
Another SOVIET Victory!!!! :D
I need to add, it was very close to draw, only luck helped me...
Bdr.Mallette
21 May 04, 11:45
I read earlier that you needed subs.(substitutes)
Iam willing to be a sub. My learning curve jumped drastically and I would like to try playing in a tournament, if any spots come available.
Bomber
Excellent!
You're on deck, Bomber, Brent (Westpointer) will inform you of any openings when they occur, and we'll slot youright in. All you have to do now is hurry up and wait! ;)
CyberRanger
21 May 04, 12:37
Excellent!
You're on deck, Bomber, Brent (Westpointer) will inform you of any openings when they occur, and we'll slot youright in. All you have to do now is hurry up and wait! ;)
Added to the list!
See? Brent doesn't waste any time!
:D
Bdr.Mallette
21 May 04, 15:11
Okay,
I'm used to hurry up and wait.
I'm Arty.
Send me PM or E-mail.
I can play 1 turn a day or more depending on size.
Bomber :D
Bdr.Mallette
21 May 04, 20:36
How do I get a copy of the scenario?
I used to have a link to TDG but not anymore.
TDG.COM?
Anywho....
bomber
Need any more subs? Although this would be my first tournament, I fear no consequences
viridomaros
22 May 04, 04:03
How do I get a copy of the scenario?
I used to have a link to TDG but not anymore.
TDG.COM?
Anywho....
bomber
www.tdg.nu
:D
CyberRanger
22 May 04, 06:27
Need any more subs? Although this would be my first tournament, I fear no consequences
Welcome aboard! I've added you to the sub list.
Bdr.Mallette
22 May 04, 12:57
Viri,
get back to work, my Afrika Korps are waiting for orders!!!!
lol
Always good to have more than one sub at the ready; welcome aboard Coyote!
Brent - we don't have a link to the scenario on the WGW tourney page?
Great, I look foward to going on active duty!
CyberRanger
02 Jul 04, 14:31
I am saddened to report another Axis victory. The count is now 3-3 ... dead even!
CyberRanger
02 Jul 04, 15:19
My sadness increases ... make that 4 (Axis) to 3 (Soviet). Rasmus scores an OV with Polynike surrendering on turn 15.
Speaking of updates, you should have CyberGeneral's soviet score for both turns 20 and 30 as we have reached #31...
The mighty Wehrmacht will prevail!!:p
CyberRanger
03 Jul 04, 07:41
Speaking of updates, you should have CyberGeneral's soviet score for both turns 20 and 30 as we have reached #31...
The mighty Wehrmacht will prevail!!:p
should .... but don't!!!
Foggy and I have finished our game. Everything is posted in the Wintergewitter Axis forum, and a final AAR has been posted. It was a blast and I enjoyed playing the scenario with Foggy.
Just out of curiosity (and talking over my head probably http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif ) : did a sub step in the Digger / Heinz57 game or is it more or less in stand-by?
Brent, can you field this one? There's been so many emails about subs and delays, I can't recall off the top of my head.
It's been over a month now with no word from my opponent, Southern Dandy.
I've e-mailed him several times with no response.
Anybody have any idea as to his status ???
I just checked and his last post was June 7th, which coincides with my last contact with him.
Bdr.Mallette
11 Jul 04, 18:06
i subbed in for someone,
don't know who or who I amplaying?!
oh well. Get it to ya in a bit.
CyberRanger
12 Jul 04, 15:15
i subbed in for someone,
don't know who or who I amplaying?!
oh well. Get it to ya in a bit.
You are playing against Dagger5. He's opponent went AWOL. Can you see the Soviet Wintergewitter forum now?
CyberRanger
12 Jul 04, 15:16
Just out of curiosity (and talking over my head probably http://www.warfarehq.com/forums/images/smilies/tongue.gif ) : did a sub step in the Digger / Heinz57 game or is it more or less in stand-by?
limbo.... since they both had to drop it seemed simpler just to let the game be removed from the tourney.
It's been over a month now with no word from my opponent, Southern Dandy.
I've e-mailed him several times with no response.
Anybody have any idea as to his status ???
I just checked and his last post was June 7th, which coincides with my last contact with him.
Since there's no round two for this, there's no deadline for the games, per se. Can you wait a bit to see if he comes back? Might just be a system crash, or some such...
Since there's no round two for this, there's no deadline for the games, per se. Can you wait a bit to see if he comes back? Might just be a system crash, or some such...
He,he
I don't really have a choice. I lost all my game files a few weeks back. I'm just hoping SD has the latest turn.
Oops! Well, give us an update when you can! What turn were you on?
Oops! Well, give us an update when you can! What turn were you on?
Just waiting for turn 9 to get sent back. :o
Southern Dandy
19 Jul 04, 16:40
My apologies for my unexpected absence...long story as short as possible, my wife opened attachments in several textless e-mails because she thought she recognized the sender. Multiple viruses (virii?) had to be professionally eradicted and I will be shortly reinstalling ACOW and the appropriate patches.
Turns to my opponents will go out ASAP after that (I always leave the last turn sent to me on my webmail account until I receive a new one, just in case....it seems it payed off this time!).
Again, many apologies for the confusion...looks like I've missed a lot in the month or so I've been out of commission.
John
Good to know that things are back in motion!
Not so sure about that.
Got an e-mail from him telling me he would send me the turn.
I've sent him reminders, but nothing since. :(
Looks like we have the first draw reported. The game between CyberGeneral and I has come to a nail-biting end and resulted in a draw.
Best of luck to all German commanders still in the field...
Well, hopefully he can get things going again. We'll wait a wee bit longer, and see how things go. Do we have another sub on standby? If not, any volunteers?
JFrederiksen
15 Aug 04, 09:10
If you think you can use me, im definitely up for it!
CyberRanger
17 Aug 04, 11:02
If you think you can use me, im definitely up for it!I'll put you on our sub-list but the tourney is nearing completion. Stay alert for the next one!
:D
I'll put you on our sub-list but the tourney is nearing completion. Stay alert for the next one!
:D
I'm afraid Southern Dandy has gone AWOL again. We haven't exchanged turns since early June, so I think we'll need a replacement for him.
One big problem though; I don't have any of the old files as I had a HDD melt down a couple of months ago.
If a replacement player comes online for Southern Dandy, we'll have to either restart the game from scratch or cancel it altogether.
:surprise: NEWSFLASH!!! :surprise:
Bruce resigns on T20 to JoeBob!
Another victory for glorius Russia!!! :freak:
Hail to the Motherland!
(Much cheering and clinking of vodka bottles)
:drink:
Is there another sub in the wings? Would anyone like to become a sub for the remainder of this tourney?
Can a player that has already completed a game, step in as a sub for the current tourney? :rolleyes:
Could play either side....
Yipes, what am I saying!!! :eek:
I don't see why not, since there are no further rounds. But you'd have to play for the same side as you did previously...
I found a possible fill in for Southern Dandy.
17poundr has shown interest in taking the Soviet slot in SD's place.
This would necessitate re-starting the game though since I lost the files awhile ago.
Not sure if it's worth the delay it would put on the tournament. :cry:
I found a possible fill in for Southern Dandy.
17poundr has shown interest in taking the Soviet slot in SD's place.
This would necessitate re-starting the game though since I lost the files awhile ago.
Not sure if it's worth the delay it would put on the tournament. :cry:
if it ruins everybody elses timetables, then i can sacrifice my self...
this means that tiger owes me some juicy game in the future.
truly dannybou and I will try italy, and i have a starter game going where my opponent has been very patient as i learned, but now i have to try to fix my toaw pbm password, wont take it, push enter and nothing! cant think of anything but re.install, and put patch. 1.04. still hope i could have a go at gewitter!
CyberRanger
10 Sep 04, 22:57
I found a possible fill in for Southern Dandy.
17poundr has shown interest in taking the Soviet slot in SD's place.
This would necessitate re-starting the game though since I lost the files awhile ago.
Not sure if it's worth the delay it would put on the tournament. :cry:Well, right now we have three games that seem stalled, one near completion, and one on turn 10. I'm not sure what the best answer is! I fear this tourney could drag on into oblivion!
Should we replace players in the slow games? I'm not sure. Check out the tourney page (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml) for the latest info that I have.
OH .... we have another SOVIET OV to report ... MINE!!! :devil:
Well, right now we have three games that seem stalled, one near completion, and one on turn 10. I'm not sure what the best answer is! I fear this tourney could drag on into oblivion!
Should we replace players in the slow games? I'm not sure. Check out the tourney page (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml) for the latest info that I have.
OH .... we have another SOVIET OV to report ... MINE!!! :devil:
In the case of my game with SD, it's not slow, it's stopped and has been for some time.(since June)
CyberRanger
11 Sep 04, 09:15
In the case of my game with SD, it's not slow, it's stopped and has been for some time.(since June)
Geez ... how the weeks slip by. I know you've been telling us this. Is the game at turn 5?
MANTIS ... we need the big insect to speak!
Geez ... how the weeks slip by. I know you've been telling us this. Is the game at turn 5?
MANTIS ... we need the big insect to speak!
I am the prophet of the insect god.
SD forfeits. (sorry about that)
Game goes in the books.
I am the prophet of the insect god.
SD forfeits. (sorry about that)
Game goes in the books....and makes another OV for the Wehrmacht :smoke:
Ok, let's get an update from the stalled games - what exactly is keeping them from being completed? Do we have AWOL players? Let's find out what's up.
Pierre - June is long enough for a forfeit - do you know why it's been halted?
If these games can be completed in reasonable time, we'll continue them. Otherwise, we're just going to award the forfeits.
17poundr, I appreciate the offer of being a sub, but in this specific case, I don't believe it's in the best interest of the tourney to restart a game of this size from the very beginning.
I already have a couple things on the horizon for us, and I'd like to get these two tourneys wrapped up!
Pierre - June is long enough for a forfeit - do you know why it's been halted?
SD fell off the map back in June from computer problems.
Bdr.Mallette
12 Sep 04, 22:47
I am on turn 11 now with Daggerfun, will be victorious, just a matter of time. He can't read this can he? lol :D
CyberRanger
13 Sep 04, 08:45
Ok, let's get an update from the stalled games - what exactly is keeping them from being completed? Do we have AWOL players? Let's find out what's up.
Okay, here's what I have ---
Pierre - report an Axis OV against SD.
We have three contests left:
Viridomaros vs Plutonico - @ turn 35
Dagger5 vs Bdr.Mallette @ turn 11 (this is going to be a nail biter!)
Conao vs Tiberius - last report was that Tiberius had sent Conao a turn on June 27. Any update since then???
So two active games left; one game that I think is probably dead.
Conao vs Tiberius - last report was that Tiberius had sent Conao a turn on June 27. Any update since then???
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So two active games left; one game that I think is probably dead.
Yes I just sent turn 6 on 9/12. I'd say average turn around for him is ~1 mo. for me it ~1 week. Remember he was the second sub so we also got started like 2 mo. late. He's mentioned that he would understand if he had to be replaced. If that were to be the situation I could reprioritize and get my moves done faster again. I don't advocate that though; he's a good opponent, just real busy with work travel and such. He's playing well too so far. I think he's making some good choices going over to the defense as Germans.
I suppose if the tournament is just about done and we are still on turn 10, something would have to be done to get the tourney over with. YOu could just drop our game out of the tourney and turn it into a regular one. -but what about my tourney ots. :cry:
CyberRanger
13 Sep 04, 23:07
Yes I just sent turn 6 on 9/12. I'd say average turn around for him is ~1 mo. for me it ~1 week. Remember he was the second sub so we also got started like 2 mo. late. He's mentioned that he would understand if he had to be replaced. If that were to be the situation I could reprioritize and get my moves done faster again. I don't advocate that though; he's a good opponent, just real busy with work travel and such. He's playing well too so far. I think he's making some good choices going over to the defense as Germans.
I suppose if the tournament is just about done and we are still on turn 10, something would have to be done to get the tourney over with. YOu could just drop our game out of the tourney and turn it into a regular one. -but what about my tourney ots. :cry:
Thanks for the update. I'm glad the game is at least an on-going battle. But .... with 5 weeks per turn .... 34 turns to go .... well ... that's 3 years! :nuts:
Tiberius - how about emailing me the sav file from your last turn if you have it? I'm getting decent at figuring out how the game is going by that point. Maybe we can judge how many turns it will take to really decide this one.
Thanks for the update. I'm glad the game is at least an on-going battle. But .... with 5 weeks per turn .... 34 turns to go .... well ... that's 3 years! :nuts:
Well, we'll probably be able to speed it up to about 3 wks. or even 2 wks. total per turn.
Tiberius - how about emailing me the sav file from your last turn if you have it? I'm getting decent at figuring out how the game is going by that point. Maybe we can judge how many turns it will take to really decide this one.
Aye, aye sir!
CyberRanger
14 Sep 04, 16:35
Tiberius - how about emailing me the sav file from your last turn if you have it? I'm getting decent at figuring out how the game is going by that point. Maybe we can judge how many turns it will take to really decide this one.Thx for the file. I'd say the two of you are going to have a close, hard-fought battle! Keep plugging along. We have another active game at turn 11 so you aren't that far behind. ;)
DOH! Unstuck the wrong tourney thread!
:argh: :drink: :whist:
Re-stuck!
CyberRanger
30 Sep 04, 06:07
In Viridomaros vs Plutonico, our hero Plutonico scores an OV against the Axis hordes. Awesome!
Game results now stand at 6-6-1 with two games still in progress (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml)!
laszlo.nemedi
30 Sep 04, 06:34
In Viridomaros vs Plutonico, our hero Plutonico scores an OV against the Axis hordes. Awesome!
Game results now stand at 6-6-1 with two games still in progress (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml)!
Gip gip gurrah!!!! :D (hmmm, I cannot remember which side I was :o )
(hmmm, I cannot remember which side I was :o ) The wrong one, obviously! :p
laszlo.nemedi
30 Sep 04, 07:22
The wrong one, obviously! :p
Phew, I was afraid I was on the good side, but fortunatly not... :D
Down to just 2 games, excellent!
viridomaros
04 Oct 04, 15:15
In Viridomaros vs Plutonico, our hero Plutonico scores an OV against the Axis hordes. Awesome!
Game results now stand at 6-6-1 with two games still in progress (http://www.warfarehq.com/index.php?page=/toaw/wintergewitter.shtml)!
grrrr :mad: :mad: :mad:
he deserved it though :cool: , we're on the point to start a game with him playing german. it reminds me i need to mail him :hush:
Panzerpelle
04 Oct 04, 15:27
grrrr :mad: :mad: :mad:
he deserved it though :cool: , we're on the point to start a game with him playing german. it reminds me i need to mail him :hush:
dont forget to use the updated version...and if you can some feedback later.
Pelle - the results seem to be right in line with what you'd hope to see. 6-6-1 is as close as you can get to balanced results!
:)
laszlo.nemedi
06 Oct 04, 10:06
Pelle - the results seem to be right in line with what you'd hope to see. 6-6-1 is as close as you can get to balanced results!
:)
Maybe in the end everyone can tell his feelings on the scenario...
Having my game with CyberGeneral ended in a draw, I can say it was a... balanced scenario :) (or did it outright favour the German? :hush:)
That said, you have to take into account the great variety of situations created by the combinations of TOs when interpreting the results.
viridomaros
06 Oct 04, 10:26
here is mine
to me the result of the tournament is not significant to the balance of the playtest because the players weren't always of the same skill and there were a lot of early end game ( due to resigning). Now i won't say that the play balance is bad but here is what i think:
Russian have more chance to win for me, especially if the german try to rescue the 6th army, now if the german player play it safe by digging in behind the super river running from rostov to voroshilovgrad they should get a draw and may be more if the russians try to get the win by attacking too much.
As german i was able to reach the 6th army and to begin retreating, but with the roumanian guarding your rear and with the arrival of a whole army south of rostov any link up was impossible and all my forces were destroyed, and i think this is pretty realistic because it should have been possible for manstein forces to get to stalingrad but to escape alive was another story. To make it short it is better to lose 6th army than to lose 6th army + manstein forces. May be i'll change my mind after having played with the soviets, though no matter the result i doubt i'll change my oppinion
CyberRanger
06 Oct 04, 10:43
My opinion is opposite of viridomaros (sort of!) The version WE (which was 1.50) played heavily favored the Axis IF the Axis player used turn 2 to decimate the over-stacked Soviet forces around the pocket AND then continued to fire away with the artillery in the pocket in support of min loss/limited attacks with the 6th Army.
IF the Axis player did not do this and the Soviet player immediately started firing away at the pocket using ML/LA with every tube firing as often as possible, the Soviet player had a high chance of success.
Depending on how the first four turns played out based on the use of artillery around the pocket by each side, I could fairly easily predict the final outcome.
viridomaros
06 Oct 04, 10:52
well i was speaking for the to i took ( southern deployement) now the option of tigersqn to deploy in the north to kill the 5th army seems quite effective still have to try this
well i was speaking for the to i took ( southern deployement) now the option of tigersqn to deploy in the north to kill the 5th army seems quite effective still have to try this
Actually, I chose the centre deployment option to drive straight for the pocket.
To my far northern flank, I moved 1 division from 1 Pz Army, 19th Pz Div & 2 Infantry divisions. These units were to maintain a defensive deployment until I had evacuated the pocket.
My plan was to allow the pocket to collapse and attempt an envelopment of both the immediate southern and northern flanks of the breakthrough, with emphasise on the northern flank. The 19th Pz Div (reserve in the far north) was to then join the northern envelopment to threaten 2 Gds Tank Army's rear in the far north.
Panzerpelle
07 Oct 04, 13:21
I am very saticfied with the results so far. even if we had some very fast games in the beging the one that have lasted the whole way have been resonably even. The changes to the scenario have fixed the stacking problem of the surronding Soviet around the Pocket, Some deployment problems with the Soviets (The gds mech of the 1 gds Mech corps), The boundary have been redrawn to the west and expanded, The 19 Pz div enters in a more secure area to the South, The Corps in the Pocket will form Battle Groups of rear area personell as the Soviets advance, The supply model of the Zimovinki supply depot is changed. The supply will be cut when the 44A enters the game + alot of minor changes sugested by the players. I hope it will be even a more balanced game in the new version. I think both sides have a real chance of winning and its the profiency of the players that will mostly decide who wins!
Do please let us know when you have the new version ready for release!
Panzerpelle
10 Oct 04, 04:39
Its aleady posted:
http://www.warfarehq.com/archives/showthread.php?t=324
;)
:laugh:
Ok, thanks! I'll add it in to the collection. :)
CyberRanger
21 Oct 04, 11:02
Well, we'll probably be able to speed it up to about 3 wks. or even 2 wks. total per turn...
How's this game going?
How's this game going?
Sent turn 8 on Oct. 4. There is no way we will complete in any reasonable time frame. What do you want to do?
Are you gentlemen agreeable to simply dropping the game as a tourney game? You can still complete the game for normal ladder points, we'll just remove it from the 'official' tourney standing...
Your choice; that's just one option. But it is getting to the point that I'd like to put this one to bed. I'd like to have all the older tournies completed, and the bonus points awarded, prior to starting the WiR tourney. Would be pleasant to have a clean slate at that time!
Bdr.Mallette
22 Oct 04, 18:37
Hello,
Quick question about this tourney.
Dagger and I have really been pumping out turns and we seem to be finishing this scenario at an all time speed, is this tournament going to be dropped like stated above or shall we continue with our game as if it were the pivotal match between Russia and Germany and could, nix that, WILL determine the eventual side that wins? Dropped games and such are becoming strenuous to my reason for playing this game. I am thinking of starting my own country, building my own army and then attacking the first neighbour that pisses me off! lol, just so I can feel like I am playing a complete scenario. Ha!
Seriously, I gotta know.
Bdr.Mallette
(pondering where I should dig my first Fox hole)
:D
Hello,
Quick question about this tourney.
Dagger and I have really been pumping out turns and we seem to be finishing this scenario at an all time speed, is this tournament going to be dropped like stated above or shall we continue with our game as if it were the pivotal match between Russia and Germany and could, nix that, WILL determine the eventual side that wins? Dropped games and such are becoming strenuous to my reason for playing this game. I am thinking of starting my own country, building my own army and then attacking the first neighbour that pisses me off! lol, just so I can feel like I am playing a complete scenario. Ha!
Seriously, I gotta know.
Bdr.Mallette
(pondering where I should dig my first Fox hole)
:D
What turn are you on? If you aren't past about T20 or now, I think it's too early to declare a victor and have it count as a tourney game. You might just want to play it out regularly.
Maybe call Dec 1st the final final drop-dead date for continuing games, with T20 being the minimum completion rate (50% of turns), and victory level assigned at that point. Other games would simply get played out as "regular".
Just some thoughts.
It would be good to get this one finalized soon. I think the scenario is just too big for players that can't commit to relatively quick turn around time on moves.
Hello,
Quick question about this tourney.
Dagger and I have really been pumping out turns and we seem to be finishing this scenario at an all time speed, is this tournament going to be dropped like stated above or shall we continue with our game as if it were the pivotal match between Russia and Germany and could, nix that, WILL determine the eventual side that wins? Dropped games and such are becoming strenuous to my reason for playing this game. I am thinking of starting my own country, building my own army and then attacking the first neighbour that pisses me off! lol, just so I can feel like I am playing a complete scenario. Ha!
Seriously, I gotta know.
Bdr.Mallette
(pondering where I should dig my first Fox hole)
:D
Yes ! Keep going your guys game! It is aexactly as you say: The rubber match that will determine the outcome of the tourney! Keep cranking out moves. Mantis owas only asking about my game because we are only at turn 8 and doing moves once a month. We will never finish in time, but you guys have a chance to finish in time and even if you are late but going fast I'm sure your game won't be dropped. Chime in tourney leaders!
Go Mallette!
Go Mallette!
Hip hip hooray!
Are you gentlemen agreeable to simply dropping the game as a tourney game? You can still complete the game for normal ladder points, we'll just remove it from the 'official' tourney standing...
Your choice; that's just one option. But it is getting to the point that I'd like to put this one to bed. I'd like to have all the older tournies completed, and the bonus points awarded, prior to starting the WiR tourney. Would be pleasant to have a clean slate at that time!
Yes I think my game with Conao should be dropped from the tourney. It's a good game though and he's a good opponent, albeit slow, so I'm sure we will continue the game until we freeze up in cobwebs. If anything perhaps the Soviet team should get a nominal victory for this slot as my current opponent was a substitute in this game and our slow rate is not my fault. (In other words if it was strictly up to me our slot would be finished with a Soviet OV! :devil: )
Fair point. I'll tell you what - The other game in progress should be played to completion, with all due haste. We'll wait for it - late or not, I'd prefer to not leave the final battle unfought!
But here's how we're going to do it, to be fair to Bill - Since you're dropping out of the tourney to complete the game, we definately do owe you a little something. So! I'm sure our EA game will still be in progress then (unless your wgw turns are going extra extra slow), just remind me in email when you have filed a game report, and I'll give you the tourney points you would have achieved had you not dropped it! Fair enough?
Bdr.Mallette
24 Oct 04, 16:51
Yes ! Keep going your guys game! It is aexactly as you say: The rubber match that will determine the outcome of the tourney! Keep cranking out moves. Mantis owas only asking about my game because we are only at turn 8 and doing moves once a month. We will never finish in time, but you guys have a chance to finish in time and even if you are late but going fast I'm sure your game won't be dropped. Chime in tourney leaders!
Go Mallette!
Go Mallette!
Hip hip hooray!
Hey man, sorry.
Appeasement is not necessary.
I just didn't know whether to bother continuing on with another 19 turns of Wintergewitter, cause I know that's how long it's gonna take. Let downs suck, that's all.
CyberRanger
25 Oct 04, 06:50
Hey man, sorry.
Appeasement is not necessary.
I just didn't know whether to bother continuing on with another 19 turns of Wintergewitter, cause I know that's how long it's gonna take. Let downs suck, that's all.
To join the chorus ... go Bdr. Mallette go! Your game is moving along well, keep pounding away.
CyberRanger
11 Nov 04, 07:47
Since we only have one game on-going, I'm un-sticking this thread for now.
Bdr.Mallette
11 Nov 04, 18:26
Currently on turn 28.
Things haven't changed much, the lines have but the predicament hasn't. He is still holding strong against massive arty and Air strengths. However, we are both weakening I think. Things should start to break on either side within the next 5-10 turns.
Anyhoo.....
Damn Russian Army, I thought the T-34s were better than what they are showing me.
Bdr.Mallette
02 Jan 05, 19:51
currently turn 36,
Pounding on both sides has increased.
Victory is unreachable, but still trying.
:nuts:
Thanks for the update - everything's fine as long as the boys in black and grey are in the lead...:p :D
Bdr.Mallette
05 Jan 05, 12:52
hmmmph!
I fart in your general direction.
your mother was a hamster and your....... etc.
(i'm sure we all know this one)
Nothing I can do.
Dagger is too adept at defensive fighting, not so much offensive, but defense is pretty good.....lol.
jk'ing Dagger.
Bdr.Mallette
05 Jan 05, 12:57
I have looked at the scenario briefing for Wintergewitter 2.01, for the T.Option of 'Use Don front units elsewhere', I know some units are withdrawn to build the Stavka units, but when, where, who does this happen to. When i was playing Dagger, i had envoked this option, to my amazement, units were withdrawn(alot) and then about 6-8 turns later, Stavka showed up, which was too late because Dagger had attacked hard. Is this option a good one to take? I have started a new match, Russians again, and I don't thoroughly understand this Theater option.
Any help peeps!?
:D
Panzerpelle
05 Jan 05, 15:45
I have looked at the scenario briefing for Wintergewitter 2.01, for the T.Option of 'Use Don front units elsewhere', I know some units are withdrawn to build the Stavka units, but when, where, who does this happen to. When i was playing Dagger, i had envoked this option, to my amazement, units were withdrawn(alot) and then about 6-8 turns later, Stavka showed up, which was too late because Dagger had attacked hard. Is this option a good one to take? I have started a new match, Russians again, and I don't thoroughly understand this Theater option.
Any help peeps!?
:D
Hi Bdr.Mallette!
The TO to use DON Front elsewhere which can be a powerful one...If you dont activiate it the reinforcements arrive on and about turn 27 (take a look in the reinforcement schedule). If you activate it it arrives as you say around turn 7. The withdrawel is purly an design decision. The units is there in the formation and enters the game on and about turn 27...if activated they are withdrawn and a new formation enters with free support and with the same TOE and OOB as the units withdrawn.
hmmmph!
I fart in your general direction.
your mother was a hamster and your....... etc.
(i'm sure we all know this one)
Sure we know this one... you'd better learn the German translation though, so that you can have a laugh with the Offlag guards.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
Bdr.Mallette
05 Jan 05, 19:41
Hi Bdr.Mallette!
The TO to use DON Front elsewhere which can be a powerful one...If you dont activiate it the reinforcements arrive on and about turn 27 (take a look in the reinforcement schedule). If you activate it it arrives as you say around turn 7. The withdrawel is purly an design decision. The units is there in the formation and enters the game on and about turn 27...if activated they are withdrawn and a new formation enters with free support and with the same TOE and OOB as the units withdrawn.
Ahhhhh, cool.
I didn't understand the full event, but now I do.
Thx man!
Bdr.Mallette
05 Jan 05, 19:45
Sure we know this one... you'd better learn the German translation though, so that you can have a laugh with the Offlag guards.
:laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
LOL, how's this.
Nein, Nein! nottin Zee butzen!
or
"I know nothing! NOTHING!" (Sgt.Schultz, "Hogan's Heroes")
:laugh:
CyberRanger
05 Jan 05, 23:08
I've noticed some of the Wintergewitter tourney games have not been reported to WARS. Please check out this page:
http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=3#10
If your game doesn't have a result beside it, and it is finished, please report it to WARS.
Thx!
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