Latest POA2 patch

[Don Maddox]

Scott has authorized me to share the patch with whoever wants it. Bear in mind that this is still a beta. He is planning to release the official patch within the next day or two.

The picture files go in the POA2\pictures\weapons. The help file goes in POA2\Help Files.

[Post edited by staff. See updated post below]

[HPS]

I hope to be releasing the updated beta tomorrow, and this time.... I'll just hope it is the final one (famous last words). :D

[Ivan Rapkinov]

I hope to be releasing the updated beta tomorrow, and this time.... I'll just hope it is the final one (famous last words). :D

I take it the UK "images" are just placeholders? Or would it be more convenient to have user created .bmps?

[bowcat]

New install, add beta5 then when I try to create a new scenario I get
“weapon system data file appears to be corrupted . error LWD:0”
and
“gun/ammo file appears to be corrupted . error LGAD:0”
then
“C++ exception”

[bowcat]

To add to that,I get the above errors starting any scenario, I'm running XP

[MikeSinn]

To add to that,I get the above errors starting any scenario, I'm running XP
I just downloaded and installed the Beta 5 patch and get the same error message as Bowcat whenever I try starting a new scenerio.

Don, Any thoughts/suggestions?

Thanks,
Mike

[HercMighty]

Hey guys I get the same errors on starting any scenerio too.

[Don Maddox]

I believe this is caused by making changes to the database. I'm not sure, but I think that there is currently a bug with the dataview utility which causes this to happen even if you don't make any changes or save upon exiting the program. I had the same problem when I first installed it. I also forgot to include the fourth set of files. Oops, sorry guys. That part was my fault. Here they are.

[This post has been edited by staff. Please see following posts for updated links to files]

You should have no problems now, but be sure you haven't made any alterations with the dataview manager or you will likely get more error messagaes.

Enjoy.

[HPS]

OK, for now just leave the DataView alone. Eventually I will release a patch that enables you to change anything but the wpn/armor/ammo tables mentioned earlier- which means you will be able to edit the nation values, create TO&E units, etc.

-Scott

[Don Maddox]

I take it the UK "images" are just placeholders? Or would it be more convenient to have user created .bmps?
That's right. I created a set of UK images for this, but HPS has not been able to release them due to potential copyright issues. The UK has a complicated set of laws surrounding the use of images and graphics, even those found on the internet, and HPS has to err on the side of caution.

If they are not able to post the images, then at some point we may host files for this purpose here.

[HPS]

To add to that,I get the above errors starting any scenario, I'm running XP
Hi guys,

First off do not use the DataView program at all with the new patch. I thought it would be OK to look at things, and change non-weapon related things - but it may not be. It is definitely not OK to change anything, though; I think that version saves all of the files on auto-exit with some different flags, and those changed weapons files will not work with the patch. When I get the main program done, I’ll go back and update the DataView part.

Also, just to reiterate - the original databases will NOT work with the patch. It works only with the new databases.

[HPS]

That's right. I created a set of UK images for this, but HPS has not been able to release them due to potential copyright issues. The UK has a complicated set of laws surrounding the use of images and graphics, even those found on the internet, and HPS has to err on the side of caution.

If they are not able to post the images, then at some point we may host files for this purpose here.
Because it's hard to verify copyrights, we haven't yet been able to get pics for most of the UK stuff. However, feel free to replace ours (which are mostly flags) with pictures of your own. The only imporant thing is the picture's file name - just keep those the same and you'll be OK.

-Scott

[Don Maddox]

Hopefully, the dataview patch will be out before much longer. Being able to at least open it and view the unit data is essential for scenario authors. The game is reasonably stable now - though there is still much work to do - so perhaps this should move up on the priority list.

[bowcat]

Great- units can now unload and defenders appear were they should when building scenarios,
The bad news is, on one created scenario I got
“division by zero – access violation at address 00db3b3 – write of address 01b7a078” on about turn 7

on another everything went fine, ordered an airstrike and when the aircraft arrive-
“sqrt : domain error – invalid floating point”

Also created a scenario were two thirds of my mech company were wiped out on the first turn (no FOW) and all the remaining units had 90% morale!

still it's getting there,

John,

[Don Maddox]

The bad news is, on one created scenario I got
“division by zero – access violation at address 00db3b3 – write of address 01b7a078” on about turn 7. On another everything went fine, ordered an airstrike and when the aircraft arrive-

“sqrt : domain error – invalid floating point”
When these things happen, be sure to save the game and send a copy of the file to Scott. I sent him something similar a few days ago, and he was able to hunt the bug down using my save game file. It's difficult for him to pin down bugs without something to work with.

[XRAY]

Don I updated with the new beta 5 patch together with the three other zipped files you posted. The game loads OK without any errors. The only problem is that none of the weapon systems match the units they are assigned too.

For example, the primary weapon of the M1A2 SEP is a PTA-53-68 with a 533 Torpedo as it’s ammo instead of the 120mm Tank Gun. None of the weapons appear to be correctly allocated to their respective platforms.

I followed you instructions when installing the updates, but I may have gone amiss somewhere. Am I using the correct Database with the new build? Something has definitely gone amiss somewhere.

[MikeSinn]

Don I updated with the new beta 5 patch together with the three other zipped files you posted. The game loads OK without any errors. The only problem is that none of the weapon systems match the units they are assigned too.

For example, the primary weapon of the M1A2 SEP is a PTA-53-68 with a 533 Torpedo as it’s ammo instead of the 120mm Tank Gun. None of the weapons appear to be correctly allocated to their respective platforms.

I followed you instructions when installing the updates, but I may have gone amiss somewhere. Am I using the correct Database with the new build? Something has definitely gone amiss somewhere.
I noticed the same thing. Once I added the updated data files the application errors stopped but now all the weapons appear to be out of synch with their correct platforms.

For reference, before installing the Beta 5, I uninstalled the game and manually deleted any remaining files and directories. I then reinstalled the game, applied the beta 5 files and started the game. Since reinstalling the game, I have not used the data viewer for fear of corrupting the files.

Don, any thoughts or suggestions?

thanks,
Mike

[Don Maddox]

Are you guys sure you copied the new data table files over the old ones? I'm not getting this error.

[XRAY]

Yes, straight copy over the old files. Have we got the same Data Files as you?

[Rocky]

Are you guys sure you copied the new data table files over the old ones? I'm not getting this error.

Don, the files in the link are actually older than the ones they are being pasted over.

Are you sure you linked to the right files?

[XRAY]

Don, Rocky may have hit on the problem.

Perhaps you could quickly email your Data Files to us and we could try them out? I think they are less than 100KB zipped.


Unfortunately I’ve got to sign off as it’s past midnight here. Hopefully you will have it sorted by the time I drag myself out of bed in the morning.

Have a nice day

[HercMighty]

If you guys find a good set of files that work please post them so I can get my system up and running. Thanks.

[MikeSinn]

Are you guys sure you copied the new data table files over the old ones? I'm not getting this error.
Yep. I even went back and manually deleted all the files from the Data directory and re-extracted (wonder if that's even a word...) the files from the archive you provided. I also verfied that the file creation date and size match those in the archive.

Hopefully, you or Scott may have a couple of ideas and can provide a solution. that way I can gleefully waste the weekend finally playing the game as it was meant to be played, i.e. me loosing continually and badly to the AI :(

Thanks,
Mike

[MikeSinn]

I just discovered something that may, or may not be of any help in identifying the problem.

After I first applied Beta patch and associated database files I gave scenerio 3 a try. I noticed the problem first when my M1A2's could fire their torpedos at the oncoming Korean horde :mad:

I did however notice that the weapons assigned to the AH-64s were correct, i.e. Thermal scope, 30mm cannon, Hellfires and rockets. This unit was actually able to fire it's missiles and take out 4 or 5 tanks on the first turn.

After quiting the game, I tried my hand at creating a scenerio. While creating it, I manually added a company of AH-64s to the Blue team. While looking at the unit at that time, I found that it's weapons were now incorrect. The Apaches had a 51mm mortar, 70mm rocket pod and 57mm rocket pod.

I quit that scenerio creation and went back to try playing Scenerio 3 again. The Apache unit once again displayed the correct weapon loadout.

So something is obviously different between the scenerios that game with and ones that are created by the users, at least from a unit data standpoint...

Thanks,
Mike

[Don Maddox]

I don't know exactly what's going on with that. I'm sure I copied the correct files, but it's a moot point because I have something better. How about a little beta 6 action! :D

http://www.warfarehq.com/poa2/poa2_patch.shtml

As before, place the help files in with your original help files. All the data tables go in the datas directory, and the pics go in the POA2\Pictures\Weapons folder. These are hot off the press from Scott and I haven't even tried them out myself yet.

Again, bear in mind this is still a beta and not an official release.

[HPS]

From now on, if you get a crash or other weird problem, please send us both the AUTOSAVE.OPS and LAUTOSAVE.OPS files. “LAUTOSAVE.OPS is a copy of the last autosave file before the current one, and will hopefully let us snag more problems before it’s “too late” in the save cycle to see them.

You MUST install both [the data tables and the beta update], or you will get errors. You should not use the DataView program with these tables until I can release a patch for it.

This version fixes everything that was reported that we could recreate (which was almost everything).

[MikeSinn]

I don't know exactly whats going on with that. I'm sure I copied the correct files, but it's a moot point because I have something better. How about a little beta 6 action! :D

As before, place the help files in with your original help files. All the data tables go in the datas directory, and the pics go in the POA2\Pictures\Weapons folder. These are hot off the press from Scott and I haven't even tried them out myself yet.

Again, bear in mind this is still a beta and not an official release.Don, Scott:

Just downloaded beta 6 and the Weapon synchronization problem is now gone. I was however unable to download the Help File posted above. Could the link be bad?

In any event, I look forward to wasting many hours this weekend on POA2. My wife, however, seems less than pleased ;)

Thanks,
Mike

[Don Maddox]

So something is obviously different between the scenerios that game with and ones that are created by the users, at least from a unit data standpoint...

Thanks,
Mike
I must have uploaded the wrong files somehow. Let me know if anyone has any problems with these.

[RedMike]

Don,

Got everything but the help files update. The link seems to be broken, can't even use the old "right click save target as" trick. Might want to check it out.

Thanks!!

RedMike OUT

[Don Maddox]

It's working now.

[Rocky]

I'm getting errors with the data tables saying the weapon systems data and gun/ammo files appear to be corrupted, followed by a C++ error.

Anybody else seeing this on build 6?

[cbelva]

I'm getting errors with the data tables saying the weapon systems data and gun/ammo files appear to be corrupted, followed by a C++ error.

Anybody else seeing this on build 6?

I getting the same errors. I had the same problem with build 5 and now build 6. Is this working for anybody out there? What is the problem? :mad:

[HercMighty]

Working for me Build 5 and Build 6. I didn't do a clean install of POA2 first but you may have to. Here is the directories I used:

C:\Program Files\HPS Simulations\Point Of Attack 2\Pictures\Weapons
C:\Program Files\HPS Simulations\Point Of Attack 2\Help Files
C:\Program Files\HPS Simulations\Point Of Attack 2\Data Tables
C:\Program Files\HPS Simulations\Point Of Attack 2

It should prompt for a overwrite on all except for the help file if doing this from an clean install. Other than that I have seen we are not supposed to touch the data viewer. You haven't done that have you?

On a side note I am seeing a few divide by zero's, and some C++ exceptions but nothing has crashed to the desktop yet. Though it was frustrating to kill all forces in the tutorial, get a player 2 has no units message and then a C++ error and I could not finish it out and get a victory screen. It seemed to stall here and that was it, kept going in a circle with the message and error.

Also I saw in the manual the DF and TRP's are supposed to be listed in the Force Information Form. Is there such a form? Or was it refering to a form that is available in the scenerio creator\editor? Section 3.11-13 is the section I saw this mentioned.

[RedMike]

Build 6 seems to be working waaaayyyy better for me. No errors as of yet and everything looks like it's doing what it's supposed to.

RedMike OUT

[Don Maddox]

I'm getting errors with the data tables saying the weapon systems data and gun/ammo files appear to be corrupted, followed by a C++ error.

Anybody else seeing this on build 6?
Build 6 is working fine for me. Have you used the dataview utility at all? Even to simply view information? Scott says there is a bug with the dataviewer that is causing the problems.

If you have not used it, then are you certain you copied over all the old files? I believe this bug is caused when the data tables' version does not match the game version. If you click on Help \ About POA2, what version does it say you are using? Try reinstalling all the updated files again.

I am getting an error when viewing the S2 or S4 in scenario #2. I have already reported this bug to Scott. I'm not getting it in any other scenario I have tried so far.

[Don Maddox]

Now I'm getting all sorts of floating point errors when using the point-to-point LOS tool in the tutorial...:mad:

[XRAY]

Don

I know it’s no comfort but I was unable to create the two problems you have Just mentioned.

These random errors which pop up on some scenarios and not others, found by some players but not others could possibly be file corruption.

I find the game much more stable now after build 6, I guess we are getting there slowly and at times have to have the patience of Job.

Your the one that's keeping us all going, dont give up on us now!

[HPS]

I am getting an error when viewing the S2 or S4 in scenario #2. I have already reported this bug to Scott. I'm not getting it in any other scenario I have tried so far.
Thanks for the bug report - I’ll check it out. :thumup:

-Scott

[Rocky]

Build 6 is working fine for me. Have you used the dataview utility at all? Even to simply view information? Scott says there is a bug with the dataviewer that is causing the problems.

If you have not used it, then are you certain you copied over all the old files? I believe this bug is caused when the data tables' version does not match the game version. If you click on Help \ About POA2, what version does it say you are using? Try reinstalling all the updated files again.

I am getting an error when viewing the S2 or S4 in scenario #2. I have already reported this bug to Scott. I'm not getting it in any other scenario I have tried so far.

I don't recall using data view - but I may have done just after I got the game. Would using it with the original version have corrupted files? If so I can try a clean install.

I checked "help>about". Definitely beta build 6.

As for loading the data table files in the right place, I've downloaded and copied them three times, so I'm reasonably certain that's not the problem. :cool:

[HPS]

Now I'm getting all sorts of floating point errors when using the point-to-point LOS tool in the tutorial...:mad:
I got the LOS bug, or at least figured out what was wrong. I have no idea why it only manifested itself in the latest version... it should have been there since the beginning if it was there at all, so I’m going to have to dig deeper.

[XRAY]

Don,

Are we still using Build 006 (beta) or has Scott sent you a further update?

If the latter can you please link to Warfare HQ again so we can all get hold of it.

Many Thanks

[Combatengineer]

Am I missing something, is there a link to the Beta patch? If not can someone tell me the location? Sorry if it is obvious and I am just missing it?

[Don Maddox]

Am I missing something, is there a link to the Beta patch? If not can someone tell me the location? Sorry if it is obvious and I am just missing it?

http://www.warfarehq.com/poa2/poa2_patch.shtml

[Don Maddox]

Don,

Are we still using Build 006 (beta) or has Scott sent you a further update?

If the latter can you please link to Warfare HQ again so we can all get hold of it.

Many Thanks
I have seen nothing new from Scott yet. I'm still using beta build 6.

[Combatengineer]

Instructions where all the files go are in the earlier posts in this same thread.Thanks, got them all except the last one the link doesn't work.

John

[Don Maddox]

It works now. :cool: