PlayersDB 6.4.9 - Wielingen class suggestions

[JanMasterson]

Here are some suggestions about the actual Wielingen class and exports:


Wielingen BE 78|E-71 (id. 873)

Name
F 910 Wielingen 05

Length: 106,4
Displacement: 1940
Damage points: 74
Max sea state: 6
Missile defence: 2

Flags
Add :
Refuel from Port x 1
Replenish from Port x 1

Cross section
Sensor Type/Front/Side/Rear
Passive Sonar/115/117/119
Active Sonar/18/28/19
Visual/122/160/122
IR/6/80/36
Radar/83/149/83

Propulsion
Create:
Wielingen CODOG 05
Primary/Boost type: Diesel/Gas Turbine
Creep/Cruise/Full/Flank: 5/16/20/28
Fuel Cons. (Primary/Boost): 4/0.03

Fuel
Delete actual then add “Diesel Fuel” id 332


Mounts

MM.38/40 Dual Box v0 can’t fire in front, only sides;
533mm ASW TT| L5 Mod1 (id 381) => 533mm ASW TT| L5 Mod3 (id. 1030);
Add 2 “12.7mm MG v0” (id9) more;
375mm Bofors SR375A ASW RL (id 346) is 375mm Model 1972 ASW RL (id 382) ;
Mk29 NATO Sea Sparrow - RIM-7M v0 (id 18) is now Mk29 NATO Sea Sparrow - RIM-7P (id 900);
Add 2 Mk36 SRBOC Chaff Launcher (id5) (one on each sides of the ship).


Mags

L5 Mods 3 & 4 (id 355) rather than Mk46 NEARTIP Magazine (12) v0 (23);
M1968 100mm/55 v0, change Qty from 1 to 2;
Add ERIKA ASW Rocket x26 v0 (id637), modify Capacity from 26 to 30;
Add “Mk29 NATO Sea Sparrow P”, capacity “8”;
Add Mk36 SRBOC Chaff Launcher (id 123).

Sensors
Replace:
DR 2000 ESM (ESM) v0 by AR 900|FL 1800S (id 1594);
SQS-505 (Active/Passive Sonar) v0 by CA/SQS-510 Hull (325) (arcs: 360°);
Raytheon 1645 (Radar) v0 by Type 1007 (id 225).

Add:
Night Vision Goggles (id 1182);
Mk 91 FCS ElectroOptical (672);
DIBV 1A VAMPIR (Infrared) v0 (516).

Platform List:
F 910 Wielingen
F 911 Westdiep


Exports:
Drazki BG 05 (id 930)
Delete it, then clone a corrected Wieliengen 05
Name: F 41 Drazki 05



Sources:
http://losbarcosdeeugenio.com/barcos/es/bel_F910.html
http://www.mil.be/navycomp/subject/index.asp?LAN=en&ID=464
http://www.wielingen1991.org/fr/f910/caracteristiques.htm
http://www.dehasse.be/F910.htm
http://www.avions-militaires.net/dossiers/bateaux/wielingen.php
http://www.worldwide-military.com/Navy%20ships/Multi-purpose/Wielingen_general_info_english.htm
http://www.futura-dtp.dk/FLEET/Skibe/Wielingen.html
http://www.battleships-cruisers.co.uk/wielingen_class.htm
http://www.globalsecurity.org/military/world/europe/wielingen.htm (Jul 30, 2002 )
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wielingen_class_frigate
Jane's Fighting Ships 2005-2006,
Jane's Major Warships 2003
Conway's All the World's Fighting Ships 1947-1995
Interviews with former sailors


Hope it helps,
Jan

[JanMasterson]

just cheked the last version of the PDB (7th july) and i noticed that the Wielingen BE 05|E-71 (1428) and Drazki BG 05 (930)'s magazines are missing one Mk36 SRBOC Magazine v0 (123) and “Mk29 NATO Sea Sparrow P” .

LLTV/Optical Assist (Visual) v0 ( 847) may be replaced by Mk 91 FCS ElectroOptical (672) and FLIR (Infrared) v0 (715) may be replaced DIBV 1A VAMPIR (Infrared) v0 (516).

cheers,

Jan

[Herman Hum]

The changes are not impossible, but I'm awaiting an outcome on the discussion posted:

http://www.gamesquad.com/forums/showthread.php?p=881374#post881374

Things like the additional Mk 36 SRBOC magazine can be added, but they are pretty much superfluous. I don't ever think I've seen any ship ever use more than a minor fraction of their decoys before being hit and destroyed.

The Sea Sparrow magazine is a significant change and I await the discussion on the aforementioned thread because it quintuples the number of SAMs available.

The different FLIR and optical systems can be changed, but they are really minor, IMO. The operational differences between the suggested systems will probably make little, if any, difference; pretty much like spelling "colour" and "color".

[JanMasterson]

about adding 8 RIM-7P in ammunitions, it will double the SAMs available, not quintuple.

http://pic.aceboard.net/img/102030/36/1156770208.jpg
(8 missiles in reserve, two are at mid-ship in containers, the other are stored at lower deck)

if the additional Mk 36 SRBOC magazine are superfluous, it wouldn't hurt to add them.

the right FLIR and optical systems are not a minor improvement over thoses actually in.

it doesn't matter if you create another Wielingen specially for me or simply update the one alerady in the DB, in anyway, i'll need them as they are in real life so please apply the changes.

cheers,

Jan

[Herman Hum]

The current magazine is configured with 32 RIM-7P. Adding 32 missiles to the 8 originally in the launcher means that there would be 40 SAMs. That's quintiple, in my book.

Will get the additional decoys added along with the different FLIR.

Going to wait for Brad's opinion since HCDB doesn't have any reloads for this vessel to decide if we make a new separate entry for you or add to the current platform.

[Edit] Saw the request for only 8 SAMs to the magazine.

[Herman Hum]

Additions have been added to the entry. Thanks for your contribution to the PlayersDB.