Tally of sunk ships

[poochenator]

I've been searching this forum and the manual, but haven't found an answer so far. Is there a way to see how many (and what type) of ships my forces have sunk during the course of the campaign? Thank you!

[Bullethead]

I don't think there's anything built-in to do it for you. So what I do is write it all down on paper. Of course, this is limited by FOW. Sometimes damaged enemy ships sink after the battle is over without your knowledge, and you don't often hear about losses to your mines unless you see it happen.

[Doctor Haider]

I don't think there's anything built-in to do it for you. So what I do is write it all down on paper. Of course, this is limited by FOW. Sometimes damaged enemy ships sink after the battle is over without your knowledge, and you don't often hear about losses to your mines unless you see it happen.

Very realistic I'd say.

[Jeff Leslie]

Yeah, but I'm sure both navies had a guy on the payroll whose job it was to keep an Excel sheet going of all reported losses so the admirals had an idea of what was going on, so lets simulate that in the game.

Some sort of list of reported losses, both friendly and enemy, would be nice. It could even be linked to FOW somehow to show confirmed/unconfirmed losses.

I'm sure back then (heck, even today it could happen) it happened that ships were mis-identified quite often, especially at night and for ships with multiple hulls in the class, or single-ship classes that were similar to others (ok, it says here we've sunk 2 Takasago's, but we all know there is just one - what gives?).

I'm far enough into a campaign now to realize that I should have started writing things down but at the same time I don't want to scrap the campaign to start over.

[Doctor Haider]

I am agreed. But the counting of enemy losses was often far from the reality. It is especially true for the ships destroyed by mines.

In the game the list of losses can be very useful but it should display only enemy losses that players can confirm theyselves.

[saddletank]

Yeah, but I'm sure both navies had a guy on the payroll whose job it was to keep an Excel sheet going of all reported losses so the admirals had an idea of what was going on, so lets simulate that in the game.

Good idea. You've got the job :)

I make notes of what I meet where, and when and what I sink or damage. It makes campaign management more fun, more player-skill oriented and besides a game generated list would reduce the FOW.

Just my view YMMV.

[Tanyrhiew]

Taskforcce 1942 had a nice way of tallying ships sunk - at the very end of the campaign a screen would show you what had been sunk, damaged etc.

[Bullethead]

Here's another think you need to write down, or should be shown in the game: merchant tonnage destroyed/captured.

In the manual, it says 2 important things about merchant tonnage. First, the Russians need to destroy 375K tons to win. Second, Japanese marus count double. So when you kill or lose a merchant, you need to write down the displacement of the ship, so you can see how far along the Russians are towards winning.

Use the "I" screen to get the displacement of each merchant. The displacement seems to be a random number that doesn't depend on the 3D ship model shown in the battle. I've seen the same model having anywhere from 3000 to 6000 tons. These are the extreme values--I've also seen 4500 and 5000 tons. The average seems to be about 5000, however.

[Daedalus]

I've been searching this forum and the manual, but haven't found an answer so far. Is there a way to see how many (and what type) of ships my forces have sunk during the course of the campaign? Thank you!

And as we found out after the war or wars for that matter, the ships sunk and or damaged tally was almost always inflated by some of the Navys. I do not know about this time 1904 that is but the Japanese rates that where given to there high command in WWII where way over, if they had done what they said most of the American and British fleets and shipping would have been wiped off the seas.
As it was it was the Japanese that quit being a naval force at the end of the war.

[saddletank]

Well, no one has got to the end of the DG campaigns yet so perhaps we do get a nice tally at the end, with lots of lovely data about who did what to whom with what and when :)

[Daedalus]

Well, no one has got to the end of the DG campaigns yet so perhaps we do get a nice tally at the end, with lots of lovely data about who did what to whom with what and when :)

You have a good point there with that. I have not even thought of it. I know one thing. I am going strong trying to get there. :)

It may show all that happend and a tally. Hmm we will see.