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Is this chip part of the AMD64 family? I ask because the CG still locks up on me on Day 2 at 1000x acceleration with 1.004.
No, that is not an AMD 64 processor. Best way to check the processor type quickly is to go to the Control Panel and double click on System. It will list your processor on the front tab.
Yeah, I did that; grasping at straws.
Lempereur1
06 Aug 06, 12:38
You still need to upgrade your AMD drivers...
I contacted AMD directly. I trust you Jim but I wear belt and suspenders when it comes to drivers.
Jim if you have the plain vanilla socket A AMD Athlon XP 2800+ the driver update does not apply to you. Be careful on this one!
Jim if you have the plain vanilla socket A AMD Athlon XP 2800+ the driver update does not apply to you. Be careful on this one!
Yeah, I am; I contacted AMD support. How can I tell if it's a socket A without opening the case?
If, when you checked it in the Control Panel/System, it did not say the processor was a Sempron or AMD 64, then you have the socket A version.
Even if it was a socket A Sempron or socket 754 Sempron 2800+ these are single core and cannot execute 64 bit code so the upgrades would not apply to you.
Do you know what motherboard you have ?
Lempereur1
06 Aug 06, 13:21
Jim:
You do need a driver upgrade. It came out last October. Look at the bottom here.
It appears that you may have to update the AMD 64 Processor direvers as well. This should be done as a general rule anyway....
AMD64 & AMD 64FX
AMD Athlon™ 64/FX Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2 - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. Download this Setup Installation program (EXE) to automatically update all the files necessary for installation. This package is recommended for users whom desire a graphical user interface for installation. This .EXE driver is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports AMD Athlon 64/FX processors on Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 x84 and x64 Editions
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...1_9706,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_9706,00.html)
Look down the page for WIn XP driver 1.3.2
AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2.16 - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. Download this Setup Installation program (EXE) to automatically update all the files necessary for installation. This package is recommended for users whom desire a graphical user interface for installation. This .EXE driver is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports AMD Athlon™ 64 X2 Dual Core processors on Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 x84 and x64 Editions.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/..._13118,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_13118,00.html)
Look down the page for 1.3.2.16
AMD Sempron™ Processor Driver for Windows XP and Windows Server 2003 Version (x86 and x64 exe) 1.3.2 - Allows the system to automatically adjust the CPU speed, voltage and power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. Download this Setup Installation program (EXE) to automatically update all the files necessary for installation. This package is recommended for users whom desire a graphical user interface for installation. This .EXE driver is a user friendly localized software installation of the driver designed for end-users. This driver supports AMD Sempron™ processors on Windows XP SP2, Windows 2003 SP1 x84 and x64 Editions.
AMD Athlon™ XP Processor PowerNow! Software for Windows 98SE, Windows ME, Windows NT 4.0 & Windows 2000 Version (exe) 3.0.5 - AMD PowerNow! Technology allows the system to dynamically and automatically select CPU speed, Voltage and Power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. These changes can happen as often as 30 times per second.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...1_2364,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_2364,00.html)
AMD Athlon™ XP Processor PowerNow! Software for Windows 98SE, Windows ME, Windows NT 4.0 & Windows 2000 Version (exe) 3.0.5 - AMD PowerNow! Technology allows the system to dynamically and automatically select CPU speed, Voltage and Power combination that match the instantaneous user performance need. These changes can happen as often as 30 times per second.
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/...1_2364,00.html (http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_2364,00.html)
He DEFINATELY does NOT need the AMD 64 processor drivers - that is bad advice!
If, when you checked it in the Control Panel/System, it did not say the processor was a Sempron or AMD 64, then you have the socket A version.
Even if it was a socket A Sempron or socket 754 Sempron 2800+ these are single core and cannot execute 64 bit code so the upgrades would not apply to you.
Do you know what motherboard you have ?
MICRO-STAR INTERNATIONAL CO., LTD KM400-8235
Yes, that is a socket A motherboard - this is the MSI page on your mobo....http://msicomputer.co.uk/Products.aspx?product_id=703557&cat_id=77
You do not need the AMD 64 fix. You can upgrade the Win XP AMD drivers if you want, but the FPS gain will be minimal if anything with your mobo and processor. Personally I am not bothering with either 'fix' and the game is running fine at the moment on version 1.004.
Ok, I have been doing this for a living for almost 30 years, No Kidding. I am going to go to AMD and I will find what driver he needs or if he needs a new one.
I have to agree with MBV on the driver. There is a Win XP driver that is used for your A type chip and like MBV said if it does not say AMD 64 or sempron in you setup then do not load the X64 drivers. In fact I do not think they would load anyway, but lets not find out.
I'll brb and see if I can find what you need.
Ok if you have the A type then here is the driver page that covers your chip:
http://www.amd.com/us-en/Processors/TechnicalResources/0,,30_182_871_2364,00.html
There is not a driver upgrade for this one as it uses the standard windows driver for your type.
I am going to keep looking to see if there are anymore but go to this page and look and read. Also on the bottom of the page there is a CPU Info program that will help to ID your chip you might download that and then tell us what it says and that will take some of the guess work out of finding this.
Let us know and I will do what it takes to find what you need.
Daedalus
Thanks. FWIW, here's what I got from CCPUInfo as attachments:
Thanks. FWIW, here's what I got from CCPUInfo as attachments:
Ok this helps a whole lot.
You have a AMD Athlon xp 2800, that is not one of the chips that need the upgrade that is posted here.
The driver for this chip is in windows and it has been loaded when you installed.
Yes there could be an upgrade but it would come from MSI where you got your board, or more likely it will come in a Bios upgrade for your Motherboard. It will say something like Micro code upgrade for your bios. You might go and see if there is a Bios upgrade for your board and do that, I use MSI board and they are about all I use ,and I like them. Use the windows upgrade program that MSI has and do the upgrade if it is needed or you wish to.
But loading the drivers for the X2 duel core or the 64 will not hlep.
Check and see if you have a Bios upgrade for your system and let me know and I will go and check it and see if it will help. I do not mind helping any way I can .
OK so basically that info matches eveything I told you and as Daedalus says there is no Win XP driver upgrade for your processor at this time. So the bottom line is.......YOU DO NOT NEED TO UPGRADE.
I would not advise upgrading your BIOS as that is a pretty serious move and extremely unlikely to have any bearing on the bugs in DG, but it is ultimately up to you.
Thanks. guys. I did a search for KM400-8235 at the MSI site and they deny any knowledge of it. I appreciate all the work you've put in to this for me.
Thanks. guys. I did a search for KM400-8235 at the MSI site and they deny any knowledge of it. I appreciate all the work you've put in to this for me.
Yea they can be a real you know what to find. I will see what I can find and I will post it here in a little while.
I really would like to get your system up and running. I do non like to fail.
Be back in a little while.
Jim I gave you a link to your motherboard webpage in a post above. In the top right hand corner of that webpage are the links to the BIOS and mobo driver downloads. The VIA 4 in 1 driver is the overall mobo components driver. I would still not touch the BIOS if I were you, but the choice is yours.
Try running the in-game acceleration at less than 1000 x as this does put a strain on the calculations for the AI - does it still cause a crash at 100x ?
Thanks. guys. I did a search for KM400-8235 at the MSI site and they deny any knowledge of it. I appreciate all the work you've put in to this for me.
Ok, Look and see if this is your Board for me, this is the first of a few but lets go one at a time.
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=475
Let me know what you think
Thanks. guys. I did a search for KM400-8235 at the MSI site and they deny any knowledge of it. I appreciate all the work you've put in to this for me.
And this is number 2
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=341
I will go on after you check these.
On these type of boards there is very few ways you have to upgrade, one way is the Chipset drivers and they are needed to keep up with the new things that come out.
But the Bios are important also, if your bios are two far behind and they have put new things in the chipset you have to upgrade your bios so the Micro Code is up to date and can see and use the upgrades in the Chip Set drivers.
If you need help let me know and I will help you get setup to upgrade the Bios I do this on machines all the time to fix issues and it is not hard to do. And if you follow the instructions you will not have any problems.
The main thing about upgrading Bios is not to turn of your systems till it is done. And not to have a power outage.
And it could be that there is no Bios upgrade for you and it could all be done in the Chipset drivers upgrade.
What ever you need or want to try let me know and I will help you get it done.
Its the first one. The second one is a different chipset altogether. If you are going to get him to upgrade his BIOS he needs the Award BIOS 1.7 (he already has 1.6). The chipset drivers are the universal VIA 4 in 1 drivers as I have already mentioned.
Be careful with this !
WallysWorld
06 Aug 06, 17:21
Jim, I had that exact same chip (Athlon 2800+) in my old PC because the motherboard decided to die on me. It's a good chip, but not a Athlon 64.
Its the first one. The second one is a different chipset altogether. If you are going to get him to upgrade his BIOS he needs the Award BIOS 1.7 (he already has 1.6). The chipset drivers are the universal VIA 4 in 1 drivers as I have already mentioned.
Be careful with this !
Thanks MBV I did see you had posted this. If he want to do an upgrade I will help him get setup. But as you said he is a 1.6 , there would have to be an upgrade worth doing this. And less there was a big Micro Code fix in the upgrade I would just let it alone and go with the chipset drivers.
Let me know if the help is needed.
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