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Okimaw
30 May 06, 22:06
Me and Larry are debating what our next pbem should be and are having some trouble choosing so we decided to take it to the people so to speak. We'd like to hear what are your favorite scens and why, balance etc. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Regards Okimaw

Foggy
30 May 06, 22:14
DNO 3.8 :devious:

larryfulkerson
30 May 06, 22:26
Fire in the East 5.0....'cause I've had a roller coaster of experiences while playing it. Offense, Defense and everything in between....this scenario has it all. I suspect DNO is kinda like FitE but different, donno never played DNO but I understand it's a monster game like FitE.

Also, I like Overlord '44 'cause it's got paratroops and places with names that I recognize. Also it's about D-Day etc. I've played all 200+ turns against the PO and feel that it's about as balanced as it can get against the PO. Against a human opponent I donno. But I suspect so. It's one of the medium-sized scenario's in that you have to scroll the map to see the whole thing and there are more than a handfull of units to move. I'm sorry, I just tend to go for the larger scenario's I guess.

Okimaw
30 May 06, 22:32
DNO 3.8 :devious:
Whats DNO 3.8 and where do I find it?

larryfulkerson
31 May 06, 00:29
Whats DNO 3.8 and where do I find it?

Drang Naught Osten or something like that. It's operation barbarosa again.

I found it at the RD site. But I'll send it to you via email.

nemo
31 May 06, 03:19
Drang nach Osten - i.e. Drive to the East.

My own favourite would be another McBride's (Daniel) huge scenario: Braunschweig. German operations in the Caucasus in 1942. Lots of room for manoeuvre in the south, head-on clashes around Stalingrad, bold decisions to take and still manageable in terms of time needed for a turn.

Did I mention chrome? :smoke:

nemo
31 May 06, 03:25
By the way, there are several Braunschweig AARs in the ad hoc section here, especially one by Menschenfresser in the form of an attached word document. Worth checking and reading before starting.

Bloodstar
31 May 06, 04:37
Me and Larry are debating what our next pbem should be and are having some trouble choosing so we decided to take it to the people so to speak. We'd like to hear what are your favorite scens and why, balance etc. Any suggestions greatly appreciated.
Regards Okimaw


Fire in the East 5.0 - well it's whole Eastern Front, you are Keitel, Hitler and Manstein, and Paulus and Guderian, do I need to say more? :D
On oposite side you are Stalin, Beria, Voroshilov, Zhukov, Vasilevskiy, Yeremenko who all trying to get that villain Guderian (Stalin's words to Yeremenko "catch that villain Guderian").

but other great ones are : Brian Topp's Operation Blau 4.0, GIO, Braunschweig (I also made AAR on this one), The Great War 2.x, Bob Cross North Africa scenario looks good, and there are one good Market Garden scenario for TOAW I that was fun. Piero also made good WW1 scenario (except for some strange weapons he used for WW1 fighting)...


Mario

Heinz57
31 May 06, 15:52
I'm a big fan of DNO, Braunschweig and Goetterdamerrung, but I think the best scenario is Wintergewitter for the variety of possibilities, technical aspects, and the little details that are important to both sides.

Ben Turner
31 May 06, 22:37
Colin Wright's Seelowe. Sorry this isn't in the public domain yet, but this scenario is a real masterpeice; lots and lots of options (particularly for the Germans), epic battles, convincing hypothetical and just about the most thoroughly researched scenario I've ever seen; Whenever I visit the sea I make a point of taking a photo or two of the coast so I can send it to Colin, because I know he'll want yet another opinion on whether that particular hexside should contain escarpment.

KG_RangerBooBoo
31 May 06, 23:08
Another one not in the public domain, though many of us seem to have a copy, that I really like is Fall Grau. Just wish I could play it worth a damn.

Menschenfresser
31 May 06, 23:23
Yea, there are a couple over at TDG I wish were released for public consumption.

My fave is whatever I'm about to start playing...

larryfulkerson
01 Jun 06, 01:09
Where is Hell's Kitchen anyway?

Telumar
01 Jun 06, 02:37
Colin Wright's Seelowe. Sorry this isn't in the public domain yet, but this scenario is a real masterpeice; lots and lots of options (particularly for the Germans), epic battles, convincing hypothetical and just about the most thoroughly researched scenario I've ever seen; Whenever I visit the sea I make a point of taking a photo or two of the coast so I can send it to Colin, because I know he'll want yet another opinion on whether that particular hexside should contain escarpment.

Yeah that's real research!

Legun
01 Jun 06, 03:36
If we are talking about scenarios other than mine ;), I must recommend "Agonia y Victoria" by JMS.
http://www.the-strategist.net/RD/scenarii/display_scenario.php?Id=551

Ben Turner
01 Jun 06, 07:06
Another one not in the public domain, though many of us seem to have a copy, that I really like is Fall Grau. Just wish I could play it worth a damn.

Word is you won't have to wait long for this one to be released. But don't tell Jeremy I said so.

General Staff
01 Jun 06, 08:02
How long have you got? Or to put it another way how long is a noose?

If you're looking 'Beer and Pretzels' type stuff take a look at Todd Klemme's work. Or Daniel McBrides's Tobruk 41 is IMO a masterpiece if you like the 'purity' of desert warfare (ships in the desert etc....) and have a little more time.

There's other work of incredible quality- but then you need to be retired or have plenty of time on your hands. Not to mention you need a medical certificate that you don't have Carpal Tunnel Syndrome...;)

General Staff
01 Jun 06, 08:08
Just to clarify- When I say 'Beer and Pretzels' type stuff I mean nothing derogatory. Just player-to-player talk as to time and other commitment involved.

I'd also say take a look at 2 Weeks (or more if you have the time) in Normandy by Brett Turner. Brilliant starter IMO for anyone and some good AARs on this to help you throw the Allies back into the sea.

Menschenfresser
01 Jun 06, 08:19
Where is Hell's Kitchen anyway?

A neighborhood in Manhattan running from the Hudson River over to roughly 8th Ave, starting at around 40th Street and climbing up to...say...59th.

jeff norton
01 Jun 06, 09:17
Another one not in the public domain, though many of us seem to have a copy, that I really like is Fall Grau. Just wish I could play it worth a damn.
Yeah, I've read the AAR's on TDG, and wish I had a copy to test drive - it looks like an interesting diversion from the norm...

Ben Turner
02 Jun 06, 10:16
Yeah, I've read the AAR's on TDG, and wish I had a copy to test drive - it looks like an interesting diversion from the norm...

Also on Fall Grau, a few of us are working on a 25km/hex map of North America (yes, I know there are already some out there, but Jeremy didn't like them) which will essentially make a completely new scenario. Think troop density on the East Front is low? Well....

Schmindrick
02 Jun 06, 10:34
as a short scenario...any version of Market Garden is good... incorporates airborne, armor, some air....build up of opposing forces...terrain features that can be challenging like...bridges

jlbetin
02 Jun 06, 10:36
Char B1 bis, Char B1 ter and... Char B1 Kenobi ..

Very nice one little padawan
That's a real funny one
Congrats Ben Turnerobi or Ben TurnVador

Ben Turner
02 Jun 06, 11:06
Very nice one little padawan
That's a real funny one

Yeah. A very limited target audience, however. Detailed knowledge of Second World French armour AND familiarity with Sci-Fi?

Reckall
02 Jun 06, 16:04
Korea 50-51, because I played it and said "This game is FULL of scenarios like this one??" It was like if someone had opened a storehouse full of old AH/SPI games and placed artificial opponents to play them.

And Barbarossa by Brian Topp. I was reading some old issues of "Europa" magazine sighing about the old times, and it just came out.

Karri
02 Jun 06, 16:14
FitE, definetly. I haven't even touched any other scenarios in a while, and can't even look at small/medium sized scenarios without thinking "why bother, the fun wouldn't last long anywaysr".

Bloodstar
02 Jun 06, 17:18
FitE, definetly. I haven't even touched any other scenarios in a while, and can't even look at small/medium sized scenarios without thinking "why bother, the fun wouldn't last long anywaysr".

Three votes for FiTE, so we have a winner :clown:

nemo
02 Jun 06, 17:30
I haven't even touched any other scenarios in a while, and can't even look at small/medium sized scenarios without thinking "why bother, the fun wouldn't last long anywaysr".Yeah. The problem with über-huge scenarios being that they often don't last long neither as it's barely possible to finish them.

Karri
02 Jun 06, 17:39
Yeah. The problem with über-huge scenarios being that they often don't last long neither as it's barely possible to finish them.

Bah, that just shows lack of dedication. I've made it to 70+ twice already, someday I will make it to the 400.

nemo
02 Jun 06, 17:46
Bah, that just shows lack of dedication. I've made it to 70+ twice already, someday I will make it to the 400.Agreed - I got near or passed the hundred mark in several large scenarios, but you can't PBEM alone, and for one lucky dedicated opponent, you'll have several drop-outs, very often with legitimate reasons.

The so-called real life sometimes really gets in the way doesn't it?

Karri
02 Jun 06, 18:32
Agreed - I got near or passed the hundred mark in several large scenarios, but you can't PBEM alone, and for one lucky dedicated opponent, you'll have several drop-outs, very often with legitimate reasons.


True, I've done dropping out myself, luckily we weren't far into the scenarios those times.


The so-called real life sometimes really gets in the way doesn't it?

No, not really. Army has kinda put it into 'sleep mode' for the next 8 months.

Panzerpelle
03 Jun 06, 03:33
Agreed - I got near or passed the hundred mark in several large scenarios, but you can't PBEM alone, and for one lucky dedicated opponent, you'll have several drop-outs, very often with legitimate reasons.

The so-called real life sometimes really gets in the way doesn't it?
The secret to finish a long scenario is not the scenario it self, Its the partner you playing it with....;) . Think of it as a marriage.
I have played EA to the end: 352 turns of fun...