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Mad Russian
31 Dec 05, 09:32
What do you think of exit scenarios?

I DETEST them! :mad: I have never found one that I thought played well.

When that happens to me in CM I work with the system until I get it to respond the way I want it to. The tools are there, the designer just needs to use them.

At least that is the plan.

I had the same problem with the AI attacking. Everybody said it couldn't be done. But I think I do a very credible job of getting the AI to attack.

So, onto the exit scenarios being BAD!!! Time to see if there was anything that could be done.

I had never done a CMAK KC (Knight's Cross) scenario. The two most prominent candidates were from the 2nd SS Panzer Division in Normandy. BUT They were both going to have to be exit scenarios.

With extensive playtesting, and I do mean EXTENSIVE...the miracle cure for scenario ailments...I found that a very intense, and best of all, WINNABLE exit scenario could be made.

At least that is what I think.

I have uploaded the scenarios here to the site for your enjoyment and for feedback outside my normal channels.

Good Hunting.

MR

Palantir
31 Dec 05, 11:50
Exit scenarios are very dicey to make & the timing in one is EVERYTHING.

Units that have to exit- if they get too much time they simply drive off ho-hum.
Too little and they can't get to the exit or die trying.

The kicker is that each unit denoted to "Exit" generates extra victory points: if you get them off extra points for you, if not extra points for your opponent so the balance of a scenario can swing radically based just on that aspect.

I see nothing wrong with having exit scenarios, just have to get them balanced.

Palantir
31 Dec 05, 11:56
I have uploaded the scenarios here to the site for your enjoyment and for feedback outside my normal channels.

What would be the name of those MR?

Mad Russian
31 Dec 05, 12:03
What would be the name of those MR?

I guess that would be a good thing to include... :o

HSG KC Untscfhr Barkmann and HSG KC Untscfhr Langanke.

Barkmann won his Knight's Cross breaking through the American 4th Armored Division units trying to capture Avranches. Most people believe and there is a lot of misinformation about this on the web that Barkmann won his KC for the action known as Barkmann's Corner. I'm sure that played a part in it but it wasn't what was cited on the award.

Langanke won his Knight's Cross for breaking through 2nd Armored Division units trying to secure the Roncey Pocket farther to the east.

I am very interested in the results of KC Untscfhr Langanke. I'm interested to see how many trucks you get exited off the map. I have exited them all but I have also gotten several shot up during different playtests. I'm curious to see how other gamers fare with this particular tactical problem. The scenario doesn't hinge on your getting the trucks out but in how much of your overall KG you manage to save.

Good Hunting.

MR