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Artur
21 Dec 05, 18:36
Comrades,

The NATO commanders are listed in the campaign's main thread. If any of you has any information on them please post here. The more we know about them the better our chances are in battle planning.

Artur.

Gun_go_Boom
22 Dec 05, 01:10
Comrades,

The NATO commanders are listed in the campaign's main thread. If any of you has any information on them please post here. The more we know about them the better our chances are in battle planning.

Artur.

Knowing the enemy can give you a hell of an edge in battle.

We already know the enemy, thanks to the OOB's being posted (plus or minus a bit of shifting around of forces, sort of like what Artur has already recommended to Deuce with some of our own OOBs).

Knowing the enemy commander can only give us that much more of an edge on them, and given the huge advantage they have with TI and a few other areas, we need every (underhanded, hehe :devil: )advantage we can get our (stinky, hehe :devil: ) hands on.

Unfortunately I don't know any one on these boards in any capacity except as other people using these boards, and even in that aspect I am considerably limited. Lets chalk it up to not really being overtly and heavily active in this region of the internet or gaming communities.

jadpanther
22 Dec 05, 13:33
Chinese Farm Scenario.

I am the Egyptian commander, Shortreengage is the isreali commander

Turn 8
Smoke is starting to clear. Isreali 155's continue to pound pre-set positions. Thier forces continue to move forward very caustiously. The main force is holding about 2k out covering a quick advance along the canal. He is leading with his infantry in halftracks with M60's following closely giving cover fire. He has crossed at the first bridge and is now moving forward along both sides of the canal. Clearing as he goes. He will reach the second bridge in force this turn. I tried to anticipate his advance and called my arty to arrive there also this turn. Fighting will be getting heavier from this point forward. Now I will see more of his tactical skills.

Losses to this point are:
Egyptian
2xT55's, 2 RPG teams
Isreali
1xM48, 1xM4/120, 1xM4

Reinforcements should arrive soon. I will still be heavily out gunned but it will be interesting to see how he deals with my missles when the smoke is gone. He only has 12 turns left to clear me from my positions.

Overall so far he seems to be a very careful commander, time limits could become his achilles heal.

As for the other NATO commanders none are familiar to me. I thought more from the Blitz would join but I see they have not.

I look forward to my comrades evaluations of my opponents and what they think could better my own performances from the training battles with them also. Any evaluations at this point I think will be VERY helpful.

Gun_go_Boom
22 Dec 05, 17:09
A cautious commander can sometimes miss the decisive point, the point in which the bulk of his forces must be committed or the engagement lost. This doesn't necessarily have to be a speciifc place, or even a specific time. Could be both.

Thus far this assessment on Shortreengage seems to indicate that this will be a weakness we can exploit if we are careful. Especially against him, quick strikes en masse would be an ideal way to overpower his forces, especially if we are on the offensive when encountering him and his forces.

Course, this is just my assessment...

jadpanther
22 Dec 05, 17:48
Of course my evaluation is of a tactical situation.........one small battle in the bigger scheme of things. He may be more than ready to hurl his subordinate commanders forward with reckless reguard. Only time will tell. I will continue to update every few turns and make notes on his style of play.

Jad

Pannonicus
30 Dec 05, 19:11
He seems like a cautious commander from his previous posts. However, analyzing other team members, I can see a weakness - most of the other subordinate commanders are not too experienced, and some of the (like Temujin) are quite reckless. On the other hand, Shortreengage, it seems, believes in Aufstragtaktik, meaning, he will only give general directions, therefore every subcommander is on his own, practically. We can play on that if we attack junctions/joints between enemy forces. Remember, NATO does not have the standardization we have, different forces have quite different strenghts and weaknesses.

Pannonicus
30 Dec 05, 19:16
Just a reminder:

NATO
Shortreengage - United States
Shadowcouger - United States
Waape - United States

Pergite - West German
Walther - West German

dita - Canadian

aef027 - NATO
bison24 - NATO
Pepper - NATO
Vas FURY - NATO

Pannonicus
30 Dec 05, 19:26
Some impressions on some of them:

Waape - I wanted to meet him, he did not answer. So altough we are both Hungarian (supposedly) I do not know him. Artur, you do not either, do you? In ICW he seemed like a fairly good commander, although his tasks were not that hard. However, his battles tended to become butcherings, as he pushed frontally, regardless of losses. He likes guts, not tactics, it seems. (although in one instance he had pretty good intel, I am sure :hush: )

dita - He (I dunno why, maybe because of the -a in his nick, I tend to think of dita as SHE :confused: ) seems like to good commander from ICW, he led his forces fairly well. Nothing spectacular I could mention.

Pergite - He is Swedish Army, young soldier. Pretty solid, although his ability was not really tested, as he only did the final assault on a town, reinforced by heliborne assault on the beach. He handled that well, did not make mistakes. However, the defenders were not too good.

All in all, Shortreengage seems the most dangerous of them all, the others are good, but they do not have big experinece. I think the human factor is on our side.

Artur
04 Jan 06, 15:04
I have some info about some NATO commanders.

aef027
He is manhunter at the Blitz. He has a record of 12%.
http://www.theblitz.org/ladders/show_member.php?ladder=5&player=1158

Dita
Another Blitz player. He has a record of 38%.
http://www.theblitz.org/ladders/show_member.php?ladder=5&player=354

Vas FURY
A new player. I directed him to Blitz and there now he is mentored by Greybeard. If he takes it seriously Greybeard will train him well.
http://www.theblitz.org/ladders/show_member.php?ladder=5&player=4944

Shortreengage
He is a very good player once Weasel even started a thread about him
His record:
http://www.theblitz.org/ladders/show_member.php?ladder=5&player=2870
The thread:
http://www.theblitz.org/message_boards/read.php?f=7&i=20158&t=20158

I will play him soon (he dropped the gauntlet) we shall see what use we can make of that..

Artur.

wulfir
09 Jan 06, 12:13
Dita;

I'm playing a game of SPWW2 with him now, 1939 I'm Poland - he is Germany.

My impression so far is that he is good esp. in defence. In fact, overall he seems a bit defence oriented - not playing very agressive even though he commands a mech Kampfgruppe with a mix of heavy and light armour supported by infantry in halftracks against my largely infantry-cavalry force (I have some tankettes but no "proper" armour) - yet, I have been able to dominate the battle.

He also tends to leave tanks exposed and sometimes even unsupported by other units - this is a costly and often unrewarding tactic.

I think concentration and speed in the attack will be our best cards against Dita. He will defeat a slow, spread out "poking-with-fingers"* attack.



*IIRC some US General in the Gulf war wanted his corps to attack as a fist instead of having his divisions "poking with fingers" by attacking on their own...