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Artur
15 Dec 05, 12:42
Comrades,

The deployment time is nearing and we have to think abut=out how we are goind to use our ADA. I write my view on the topic here but i need serious input and advice from the Air comrades, (and the requested test scenarios of course) and I would like them to take over this thread.

Our ADA consists of the following elements:
1. Inf SAM (SA-7 and Strela)
2. SPAA (ZSU 23 Sylkas) range of one.
3. Short range SP SAMs
4. Long range SAMs.


Using the inf-SAMs is quite straight forward as they go with their original units and protect them against helos and aircraft.

I thinf the rest of ADA should be deployed at least one hex behind the front if the interdiction of the Sylkas can be abstracted. The reason? A competent NATO commander will use the A-10s in standoff attacks. Because of that the planes are not put to risk and they will attack ADA units as first priority. After a time there will be not ADA left to be used in battles.

That way I would direct all unit ADAs under regimental HQ command and deploy behind the front.
Batteries of 4 Sylkas and 4 SA-9s should be formed and deployed accordingly.
First a layer of Sylkas, then a layer of SA9-s and a third layer of SA-6 and SA-4.
(If DD denies us to abstaract the Sylkas we shall move them with the Armor battalions which are reserves all over the front. -hopefully he won't )

With the reorganization of all ADA assets we shall have

4x2 SA-9 Gaskin batteries
6x4 ZSU23 Sylka batteries
1x2 ZSU57+1ZSU23 battery (Hungarians would get 2 ZSU23 from soviet HQ)
2x4 SA6 batteries
1x3 SA4 batteries

Opinions comrades?

Artur.

Artur
16 Dec 05, 11:15
Comrades,

Here are the details of one possible layour if DD does not abstarct the ZSU-23 Sylkas.

The ADA inventroy has 3 AD batteries. We shall crate 2 more from the 6xSA-9 Gaskins and 4 sylkas from the Soviets and the 2 SA-9 Gaskins from the Hungarians.

Then the ADA inventory will look like this:

1st Bn/8th Air Defense Rgt/8th Guards Tank Army - Soviet

...A Bty/8th AD Rgt/8th GTA
......x4 SA-6 Gainful
......x2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka
...B Bty/8th AD Rgt/8th GTA
......x4 SA-6 Gainful
......x2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka
...C Bty/8th AD Rgt/8th GTA
......x3 SA-4 Ganef
......x2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka
...D Bty/8th AD Rgt/8th GTA
......x4 SA-9 Gaskin
......x2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka
...E Bty/8th AD Rgt/8th GTA
......x4 SA-9 Gaskin
......x2 ZSU-23-4 Shilka

We shall have multiple layers od Air defense units. The inf-sams and ZSU23s are at the front line (thick red line in the picture) then the two SA-9 batteries are close to the front and cover almost all of it except the two side hexes. (EG and Hungarian ZSU units must be placed there). Their range is marked with yellow. The SA-6 -ranges are marked with light blue. They cover almost all the map and all 2 batteries can protect the whole front line.
The SA4 battery covers all the map. The sylkas for each battery are assigned for the close protection if helos and/or planes try to sneak through and destroy them.

Possible changes/alternatives:
-We could make 4 half size SA-9 batteries if DD lets to be 3 units in an ADA battery. (2xSA-9 and 1xZSU-23)
-We could take away the ZSU23s and add them to the front line units.

Comrades, I would like to hear reflection about this. Especially from the AIR comrades, and I need those test scenarios.

Artur.

mr_clark
16 Dec 05, 17:10
If we can get the abstractions done I think it'S a very good plan. Might even take away Tactical air assets as they go on 'weasle' missions.

Pannonicus
16 Dec 05, 18:50
Looks like a good plan, pretty much like in real life.