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Artur
08 Dec 05, 14:28
The engineers are very special units. As I see they are much more useful using them to build obstacles than using them in combat. They are treasures and have to be used right and kept alive.

We have 10 engineer platoons (30 squads (18 sov 12 GDR)). They can make 60 mined hexes or 120 wired hexes each OP turn!

Some squads are mixed with tanks. I wish to alter the structure of the engineer units and make 5 companies of 6XEng+6XBTR units putting under Sov and GDR HQ direct command. They can aid the normal inf squads to build up defenses. They can also prepare fall-back positions if a battalion has to withdraw.

I also see more reason uniting the Bulldozer and engineer tank units as well. They have to be used in mass to break through defences. That is 2 Companies of 9XDZM and 2 companies of engineer tanks. They are 6X T-62 KMT(Sov) and 6XT55 engineer tanks (GDR). They would fight under Sov&GDR HQ direct command as well.

I have already asked if Bulldozers can dig trenches or not if not engaged in combat. If not
can we convert 9 DZMs to 9 engineers+BTR? Or 18 DZMs to 18Xengineers + 18XBTR?

Comrades, what is your opinion about this?
DD can we alter the organization if the comrades agree?

Artur.

Vesku
08 Dec 05, 15:21
I can do without engineers in tactical combat and do agree that men in BTRs are better than tanks.

Vesku

Pannonicus
08 Dec 05, 18:59
I agree. In the Hungarian tank bn I also have a few assets, please incorporate them into the engineer tank unit. Engineers are to be used building, not fighting, unless absolutely necessary.

Double Deuce
09 Dec 05, 00:18
DD can we alter the organization if the comrades agree?Yes. You'll need to post reoganizations in the OOB forum and I will update the Official OOB's to reflect the changes.

Artur
09 Dec 05, 02:43
...can we convert 9 DZMs to 9 engineers+BTR? Or 18 DZMs to 18Xengineers + 18XBTR?
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DD, can we?

Artur.

Double Deuce
09 Dec 05, 08:41
...can we convert 9 DZMs to 9 engineers+BTR? Or 18 DZMs to 18Xengineers + 18XBTR? No. These are part of the OOB you have to work with. Note they can act like regular engineer units for constructing obstacles (including wire, mines and such).

Artur
09 Dec 05, 15:02
No. These are part of the OOB you have to work with. Note they can act like regular engineer units for constructing obstacles (including wire, mines and such).

OK. But then you have to update your campaign rules description because it says only foot engineers can do it. ( The full squad rule does not say much as if a squad survives a battle it will be refilled anyway.)

Artur.

jadpanther
26 Dec 05, 23:22
You can have my engineer assets for the main force. I agree they are to valuable to throw away in direct combat.

Jad