Army or civilian doctors?

[Dicke Bertha]

As things move slowly here on WHQ *cough* SZO ;) TOAW boards, I thought I'd invite the casual passer-by to some thought-material, undigested yet, that went just barely noticed through my square head. :halo:

Today at work, being stressed I managed to cut up my hand pretty badly, just between thumb and pointer finger (well whatever you call it the next one). Deep cut, needed to stich it to keep the fat in etc.

Went to the hospital emergency room, sat 2.5 hours before I could go back to work. I got so damn stressed you wouldn't believe, I overheard the nurses talking about everything from latest mode to boyfriend troubles. Now I know there is something called working lady size hip and working lady size ankle. :confused: These girls chat away half their working day, and they have a good time at it too. My chatting with colleagues is a mutual pain.

After 2.5 h finally the doctor had failed finding some candidate to do the stichtes, had to do it himself. He tried for a minute to get two nurses to find the anastaethic, then turned to me with a despaired smile, and we agreed to go without it. He had to instruct the nurse (I would guess she had 15 years experience) with the plier not to press the thread at several places since it damages the thread but to choose one place and hold on (and he had to tell her to pick a place close to the end of the thread :rolleyes: rather than in the middle) and man I never heard a sergeant tell any soldier so much commonsense stuff.

Anyway, the other nurse was asking me every ten seconds or so if I felt well or was going to faint :love: so after a few minutes I got really nervous and started to reply with grunts instead of lenghty assuarations everything was fine...

The doctor was really stressed too, and started to work faster too, and tried to catch the attention of the nurses to the work they were performing instead of the comforting me.

I never saw an expression of relief as big as that on the face of the doctor once the work was done.

Now to the question: has anyone firsthand experience of army hospital work? Is it as nervous? :surprise:

Edit: well of course what I wanted to say t ostay within boundaries, is that Gio is really difficult for the Soviets! :laugh:

[billslim0]

The question is - are you ok and back in the saddle??!

[Bloodstar]

Urgh, Dicke Bertha, I hope that you don't mind, but can I say one joke? :)

I know that you have been in pains so that's why this to cheer you up:

well, it's not a joke but reality, my father is making automatic machines which can be dangerous for fingers, one day one friend of my father arrived and machine was on, he put a finger there to explain something and ZAP, finger was cut... in all this situation somewhere run a dog and grabbed the finger...

Man yelled in pain and asked where is finger, well to connect it somehow or something, but worker told him "Riki have took it away!!!!" (Riki is this dog :))

So, urgh, hope that everything will be fine!


Mario

[billslim0]

We had a Polish woodwork teacher at school who lost his finger during a woodwork class - on the ban-saw......

[Dicke Bertha]

Haha, a German engineer once told me he had seen a worker try to stop a 22-tonne pressing machine from toppling. The worker failed and lost his legs...

So what's a finger! Bah! ;)

Billslim - I've ridden. I wear boxers. Won't ride again, ok? Yeah I'm ok, mentally scarred but ok. :)

[Hertston]

Keep an eye on that, its very easy to damage some nerves. That's something the medics can often miss, especially in Casualty when they are rushed. If you use your hands for anything that requires any real precision, such as playing a musical instrument, electronics, etc, make sure a specialist checks it out, particularly if you have either loss of sensation or any odd sensations.

[Dicke Bertha]

Thanks Hertston, I think it's safe - the doctor said it wasn't as deep a cut as last time! ;)

Man I should get a rebate. :D Or change jobs, I am obviously a danger to myself and a nuisance to the care business....

[nemo]

Hope you're better off now. Anyway, consider you lucky, two and a half hours is nothing, really nothing when compared to the time you can spend in ER over here.
By the way, how did the nurses look? Any chance you took some pictures? ;)

[Bloodstar]

Hope you're better off now. Anyway, consider you lucky, two and a half hours is nothing, really nothing when compared to the time you can spend in ER over here.
By the way, how did the nurses look? Any chance you took some pictures? ;)

Nemo, nemo :devil: you ask how nurses in Sweden look? Well, they are blondes and have big boob... ops. :laugh: (blonde-brunette hehe)

I was today to see my doctor and there is really good looking nurse (also blonde) hmmm... she gave me vaccine against flu (ie. to not get it in 6 month at least ).


Mario

[Dicke Bertha]

You dirty old Frenchman, you think I'd share pictures with you? ;)

I was really disappoitend because I saw one of the nurses that treated me last time, she is really pretty, but she whirled past me with just a smile, but then came one of the two candidates running past me - she was a real beauty. Never got to ask her out as she left me to her boss, a nice bald guy in his mid-late thirties! :D

(I have to learn how to use the built in camera in the mobile!)

edit: of course they were blond, full blond type of hmmrr colour! :whist:

[nemo]

Nemo, nemo :devil: you ask how nurses in Sweden look?Granted, something of a silly question :cool:

[Dicke Bertha]

Not really, the first nurse to clean the wound (damn I am not this self-centred really) was a Persian slim beauty (well there were some war-wounds facially) who insisted that every noun was female or male or neutral or reale but never correct (for nemo et al where words are not all designated with a THE). Like Le femme, le table, la docteur etc

Within a generation, blonde Swedes will be a tale.

[RhinoBones]

. . . I managed to cut up my hand pretty badly, just between thumb and pointer finger (well whatever you call it the next one). Deep cut, needed to stich it to keep the fat in etc.

Sure hope you don’t do circumcisions.

Regards, RhinoBones

[El Cid]

Today I heard in the radio about a guy that broke up with his girlfriend, then decided to get back with her. But the girl was really angry, so she first let him in and slept with him. Once he was asleep she got superglue and glued his dick to his stomag, each of his balls to each of his legs, and finally his butt together.


Try to explain that to the doctor.

[Bdr.Mallette]

hey,

Our nurses and Doctors seem pretty capable up here, long waits sometimes though. 1-3 hours for a serious injury(sooner if lots of bleeding).
Even though most of our talent are moving their ways down south (more $) we still have pretty good care here.

In the army, had no troubles but during basic training, with minor stuff, fully qualified and very professionally done. Get the job done, fill out paper work then out the door. I had a blister the size of R.I.(for US guys) or Baffin Island (for Canucks) and their main concern was that I was trying to get light duties and stuff. I was just really concerned about any infections. Once they were assured of my concern, it was handled properly and I was back to humping 25 kms /day and carryin plenty of 105 rounds....ugh!

But overall, good quality.

But yeah, WOMEN DO TALK A HELLUVALOT..... *******IT....RATHER THAN DOING WORK. :D



(and yes I've had worse than blisters....lol)

[MountainMan]

Twenty years of experience in military hospitals, ER's and field medicine, as a medic, then a medical NCO and finally as a military Physician Assistant.

One word answer: No.

Military personnel are remarkably well trained in contrast to their civilian counterparts; furthermore, they are disciplined, something not often encountered in the lazy, how-much-profit-did-we-make-today civilian medical world.

[Dicke Bertha]

Today I heard in the radio about a guy that broke up with his girlfriend, then decided to get back with her. But the girl was really angry, so she first let him in and slept with him. Once he was asleep she got superglue and glued his dick to his stomag, each of his balls to each of his legs, and finally his butt together.


Try to explain that to the doctor.

:eek: :eek: :surprise:
How hmm rational of her... :laugh:

[Mantis]

In my experience, military medical care is quick, no-nonsense, common sense treatment. While there is definitely more of a time factor involved with civilian medical care, you are also more likely to see them catch other, deeper (sometimes non-related) concerns.

[JAMiAM]

just between thumb and pointer finger (well whatever you call it the next one).
That finger is known as the "index" finger. Hope you're mending up fine.

[Dicke Bertha]

Interesting answers (and thanks for all good wishes). While I am grateful for the help I got (and it only cost ca 30 Euro - far too little for the work involved) the situation at the hospital was not nice, the hospital is intimidating to the customer/patient. There are some political parties which have 'more money to schools and care always more' on their program. I think more than money they need better organisation, and if they looked at me as a customer more than a patient I'd be more relaxed. I had a little weird feeling that I was there for the system, instead of it being there for me... and the nurses, well at least they need to walk a little faster and learn how to look busy! :)

[Karri]

heh. I heard, from my friend who is who is a medic, that most "b-men" are trained to become medics...in the finnish army that is.

"B-men" are people who are either not "too" bright or have some medical troubles or something else like that...if I recall correctly that is.

[Mantis]

In Canada, the waits can be horrible (like everywhere, it seems), but the care generally seems to be of a very high quality, and I've yet to pay for anything in my almost 36 years of life. There are, of course, better/worse doctors. But you can't swing a dead cat without hitting a doc in the head, so it's all about finding someone you feel comfortable with, and that seems to know his business. I have found a guy that is truly first rate, and he takes great care of us.