Tournament, Round four [Archive]

Krink

09 Sep 05, 22:26

Sorry for the last round scenario. It was recommended to me to use by another guy that runs CS tournaments all the time, but I should of checked things out a little closer I guess.

This next one is one of my favorites. First Clash at Carpiquet. 20 turns. There are many different ways to play this one.

As usual, the player listed on the left is Allies.

Michamme vs Jesdazone
Paulinski vs Grayhound
Ensayne vs Abitis
Full Monty vs Spartan
Gnrl Confusion vs John Given

Tournament round will end by Oct. 14/05. That gives everyone lots of time. If you know you are going to be away or whatever, then try and get a few extra turns in before hand.

The results to this point are in nthe attached file.

Good luck to all.

Ray

Gnrl Confusion

10 Sep 05, 00:09

Well the first round is away and we've taken our first shots. I'm a Johnny Walker man myself, but a few of our younger boys (3.2 drinkers mostly) have been throwing up a lot, not being used to the hard stuff, but war is hell as they say and if you can't stand the heat get out of the wasthatgunfire?

John Given

10 Sep 05, 00:31

All right! It's gonna be great playing you Gen. Confusion.

I just bought a cool backlit keyboard and wireless mouse - you get to be the first person I get to test 'em on!

Let the shootin' commence! :smoke:

jesdazone2

10 Sep 05, 02:37

send me the email addy so i can send the first turn

Grayhound

10 Sep 05, 09:02

Paulinski,

Send the first turn to rkg922@yahoo.com.

Paulinski

10 Sep 05, 10:47

Grayhound.

First turn sent to your e-mail addy.

Cheers

Paul

Ensayne

10 Sep 05, 13:05

Well, we're under way, but I have to say I don't like the name of this one. The attacker can't feel real confident in a battle with the word "first" in the name. Did Patton or Genghis Khan ever call any of their battles "First Attack On ____"? I think not. The implications are just bad for morale.

How about we change the name to "Crushing Victory At Carpiquet" or "I Can't Pronounce It, But I'm Going To Own It" or even "This One's For Ethel May Shenk, Who Saved Most Of Company B From Being Virgins Back There In Edmonton Eh". I think the Allies should get to vote on this.

Abatis - here's the turn in case I got your e-mail address wrong.

michammer

10 Sep 05, 15:17

send me the email addy so i can send the first turn

Jesdazone, the Allies move first, so I will email the turn to you this evening when I get home. I will use the address on your profile.

Spartan

10 Sep 05, 15:27

Hi, Full Monty, I am awaiting your first turn. You can send the file to ric_thomas82@hotmail.com.

Spartan

John Given

10 Sep 05, 19:25

Gnrl Confusion

12 Sep 05, 12:24

General Confusion, I just finished my first turn and am about to send it. But do
I send it to info@lakefrontmedia.com? I don't want to get you into trouble at work - or just have it go to the wrong place. The Gen. Confusion at theblitz.org has a different real name than yous, so I figured it was a different guy.

Just lemme know your preferred addy to send the turn to and I'll add it to my permanent 'CS opponents' file. :p

Thanks! :)

By the way, where are your guys? They must be camoflaged. Hmmm. :nofear:

As you know by now: bracken@warwick.net.

As for other General Confusions, I am the true General Confusion. All the others are imposters. At least I'm pretty sure. Say 95-96% sure. That I'm the only one, not that I'm an imposter. They're the imposters. Unless they're going by another name; then they wouldn't be imposters of course, just some other guy using some name. Unless they were using someone else's name, in which case they'd still be, just not me. Pretty sure. Say 90%-91%.

What guys?

michammer

15 Sep 05, 15:20

How is everyone's game going? Myself and Jesdazone are on turn 5 and we are having a bit of a scrap around both Epron and Buron. The wrecks of Shermans and PzIVs can be seen burning in both areas.

Ensayne

15 Sep 05, 23:08

Abatis and I are midway through Turn 5. The allies have taken one objective not held at the start and are trying to hold on. We've taken 354 slap shots already, but they keep digging the puck out and sending it back. In the meantime HMS Indefatigable, HMS Warmonger, HMS Duke Of Earl and HMS Redundant are turning up a lot of turf. That should make the digging easier. Then we just have to convince them to relax and have some biers.

jesdazone2

16 Sep 05, 01:06

How is everyone's game going? Myself and Jesdazone are on turn 5 and we are having a bit of a scrap around both Epron and Buron. The wrecks of Shermans and PzIVs can be seen burning in both areas.
he says it a scrap huh well when you station the enitre grand fleet (opps thats ww1 off the coast and tell them to have it it makes it a bit more than a scrap in my opinion). They say artillery is the queen of battle so i guess this is a royal rumble now.

John Given

16 Sep 05, 03:34

I hear ya, Jezdazone! I honestly cannot remember a game that ever had so much artillery (corps-level games in campaigns vs. the computer excepted).

So, to compensate, I've become super-defensive with my infantry and artillery. This is gonna be a battle where nearly all my forces have to remain hidden. I have no idea how many airstrikes the brits get, but that could be another problem later in the game - another good reason to keep my stuff well hidden.

I just sent turn 6 to Gnrl. Confusion by the way.

It's occurred to me years ago (I'm a longtime wargamer) that the defender usually has the advantage, and the CS is no exception. So, to increase efficiency, I'm letting Gen. Confusion do most of the attacking. In my turn, hidden units pop out and get a few shots in. My follow-up artillery then hits the newly-occupied hexes. It seems to be working - I've lost about 25 sp's (mostly unloaded trucks and sdkfz 11's) to his 42.

Also, my opponent's point loss is higher then the sp difference would indicate, the result of my losing mostly trucks, where he has lost mainly shermans (13 so far) and rifle sp's (about 20). I have lost 7 SS panzergren. infantry sp's, whichs hurts especially bad because they are worth FIVE points per sp - major ouch. So, to once again compensate, I'm using machine gun platoons to scout (only 3 points per sp).

Interestingly, Confusion seems to keep the 'scroll to view enemy action' option turned OFF - so that he can roam around the board during the replay, allowing him to see where my artillery is coming from. This is how he killed my transports, one of which was loaded with a 150mm sIG gun (damn!). Now, all units are kept well away from the artillery. Also, he likes the old 'shell UNspotted objective hexes' trick - not really a bad plan considering the insane amounts of artillery he gets, so not surprisingly, light armor and transports are kept away from objectives for the most part.

The 'front' has stalled at the main central town, (Buren?) and my scouts tell me the northeast town (forgot the name) is heavily garrisoned. During the last replay, I saw Confusion moving up light tanks and more infantry.

I probably shouldn't call it so early, but I'm predicting a draw. ;)

That's all I can think of for now! :cheeky:

Krink

16 Sep 05, 09:05

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Interestingly, Confusion seems to keep the 'scroll to view enemy action' option turned OFF - so that he can roam around the board during the replay, allowing him to see where my artillery is coming from. This is how he killed my transports, one of which was loaded with a 150mm sIG gun (damn!). Now, all units are kept well away from the artillery. Also, he likes the old 'shell UNspotted objective hexes' trick - not really a bad plan considering the insane amounts of artillery he gets, so not surprisingly, light armor and transports are kept away from objectives for the most part.
[/QUOTE]

I find that if you hit the number 4 at the beginning of your replay, that will also give you a good idea of where the artillery is coming from. It helps speed up those looooooong replays too.

Cheers,
Ray

Gnrl Confusion

16 Sep 05, 11:31

It helps speed up those looooooong replays too.

Speaking of which, I always use the fast speed option when watching the replays. I always wondered if anyone else did. I find sitting through the slow replays pretty grueling.

As for John Given's assessment of our game, it's pretty acurate. In fact it's so acurate we've fired our intelligence chief and are going with John's reports from here on out.

John Given

29 Sep 05, 13:15

michammer

29 Sep 05, 23:49

It's too darn quiet around here! :bored:

So how is everyone's games going? :cheeky:

Confusion and I are duking it out; we're on turn 16. :)

In the east, he making a grab for the NE objective town, and seems to have an advantage in numbers and artillery. :nervous:

The center has me with an advantage in tanks and maybe infantry, I'm closing in on the 4-objective prize, but other than a few platoons of sherms and infantry, I'm not sure what he's got up his sleeve. :confused:

In the west, a bucketload of pissed-off SS panzergrenadiers are storming the 'low country' (the river valley area) and flushing out tanks and infantry. We're talking about a battalions worth of german infantry. :devil: :nofear: :skull:

Sound off guys, how's your game's goin? :thanks:

Myself and Jesdazone are on turn 12 and we are fighting it out around Epron and Buron. I (as allies) have taken and lost Buron, but I should be able to take it back in a couple of turns (I hope!). I have taken and hold Epron. During the fighting, I have destroyed 42 PzIVs, and I have lost a dozen Shermans, a dozen Stuarts, and too many infantrymen. His infantry has also taken a beating. I love artillery!

We have just intercepted a signal from the enemy commander saying that he is out of tanks and is resorting to using infantry armed with limp sausage and sauerkraut to attack the allied tanks. As we are equipped with shermans, this is a troubling development.

jesdazone2

30 Sep 05, 02:33

Wellmy kind canadian swine you have revealed yourself at last and now that i have discovered you are eavesdropping on the radio waves it is time to break out the final undiscovered V weapon that has been in developement since 1943...... we call it gerta a classically trained opera singer since age 18 with a octave range so high it has been know to melt the steel of those accursed Sherman tanks Gerta coupled with the limp sausage and sauerkraut will surely bring you to your knees or at least give you a headache and gas like you wont believe LOL so take that even without my panzers i shall triumph in the end ............

hear the sound of death as gerta warms up now

lalalalalalalalalalaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

and if you dont believe me ask general confusion as he has already been on the recieving end of this fearsome weapon.........................................

lol good luck my friend

Gnrl Confusion

30 Sep 05, 18:40

Why, yes, I remember Gerta well. She was quite fat and started singing on our last turn as I recall. Quite fearsome. I thought she was dead.

Grayhound

30 Sep 05, 19:29

Quite fat with a voice that can melt steel? That would explain the limp sausages.

Abatis

02 Oct 05, 10:20

Ensayne and I have finished. After an *exceedingly* bloody(virtually of course)120 minutes, the final result is Axis Minor V.

Well fought Mike- despite horrific losses, (even worse than my own)he managed a slim draw on the Canadian last turn. If I hadn't last ups, I would not have gotten a win. It was a real slugfest and a lot of fun!

John Given

03 Oct 05, 02:23

:toast: to both of you guys. That sounds like a hard fought one indeed.

Mike, one of these days I'm gonna have to take you on (again). Hmm, that reminds me, I 'rebalanced' 'Rude Surprise for Rommel...' :halo:

Confusion and I are about to start turn 20...I'm 5 points away from minor victory. David really came roaring back the last two turns and put some serious hurt on my infantry. Considering I *was* inside the minor V. category by 130 points, then knocked into the draw category by over 30 (about a 150-point swing in just 2 turns!!) ought to give you an idea of how bad David's been hurting me. I suspect some of my infantry are spies. Or maybe he has some spotter planes I don't know about. Yeah, that must be it. I have a feeling it will be a draw. Either way, it's been a well-fought game.

What the Germans need now are some scantily-clad cheerleaders on the edge of the map, cheering us to victory. :love:

Spartan

03 Oct 05, 08:51

Myself and Kevin are on turn 11, hopefully we can get the turns out quicker the next week or so.
At the moment I have a German Major victory but he has just had his reinforcements so I expect him to hit me hard soon. Hopefully I will be able to hang on and get a german minor.

Ensayne

03 Oct 05, 19:05

Just confirming an Axis minor victory in this one, final score 70. The Allies went on the attack, of course, and initially took the two 50 point objectives held by the Germans on the right and center. At this point the battle was looking pretty good. We had eliminated a number of German tanks in the initial assault and the Shermans were holding up well, although a lot of the infantry was thinned out and/or disrupted. Plus, we had all those fixed units in the north just itching to get their heads blown off. We were organizing a victory party and the beer was already flowing.

At this point, Abatis decided he had had enough of Canadians and counterattacked. He retook the right hand objective (yes, I know they have names but I've forgotten what they are - we weren't there long enough to get hotel rooms) fairly quickly, followed by the center one, which traded hands a number of times. I tried to keep my tanks out of sight as much as possible, but the temptation to shoot at whatever armor he had exposed was too great. Eventually, they got whittled down to a handful.

Despite all the shelling and running into fresh units, the Germans continued to advance on the center left. There was also a push on the right, but that eventually petered out, after one group of Allied tanks and infantry became unfixed. I wasn't too worried, because all of the remaining fixed Fireflies on the northeast corner were going to get released and I would be able to recover, right?

By turn 15 or so, I was getting concerned that the fixed tank units (not to mention the infantry) consisting of 24 Fireflies and 4 Crusaders under the command of Maj. Guy "Le Cheekenharte" Bovine, plus 9 Stuarts on the left under the command of Col. Jacques "One Too Many Slapshots To Le Head" Mortier would not be released in time to do any good. And his infantry was also still advancing on the center left.

In the final turns, he took the fortified objective at the top center, which I took back; I retook the 50 point objective on the right, which he took back, and; I took one of the objectives at the bottom left with a lone tank which had been driven down there by his tank fire (wish I had taken a larger group down there on purpose). That tank just skirted his fixed units to get to the objective. We managed to keep that one - only because his units were nailed to the map.

"So what happened to all those fixed units?", you are asking. Well, as far as I know, they're still there. They must have been prepositioned for the second assualt on Carpiquet.

Other than the dang fixed units on both sides, a very engaging seesaw battle with a fine opponent and a lot of fun. Congratulations Abatis.

And John, there's no need to rebalance "Rude Surprise". It's fine the way it is. We'll just play it again. I'll be the Allies, OK?

John Given

03 Oct 05, 22:38

"And John, there's no need to rebalance "Rude Surprise". It's fine the way it is. We'll just play it again. I'll be the Allies, OK?"

:laugh: Rofl!! I don't think so.

Great review Mike. It's amazing how differently your battle with Brian played out compared to mine and David's. I.E., it was noticably more violent. David and I, in comparison, basically just pointed at at other and said "YOU attack!!" to which the other replied, "no no, YOU attack!!" for most of the game, LOL.

John Given

04 Oct 05, 19:40

Gnrl. Confusion and I have just finished, and he has proved himself to be one hell of a defender. :hurt:

I never had a chance of capturing the northern town, and I was shocked how many forces he had on-board at the game's end. :eek:

Final tally is 91 points, minor allied defeat (I played germans). If I had kept my attack going, from several turns back, it would have been a draw. An all-out attack early on by me may have resulted in me being defeated.

As it is, I kept 95% of my units hidden throughout the game, (except during my mini-advance) and he therefore got very little artillery kills. Most of my losses were the valuable SS panzergrenadiers, 42 in all, and 17 of those on turn 17 alone. I lost 7 PzIV's, 2 stummels, 3 mortar HT's (all at once due to lucky artillery hit - they weren't even spotted!), nearly all MG's (some 30 sp's, almost none survived - I use em for scouting), 5 engineers sp's and 4 AA vehicles. A few other, minor units were lost that didn't change anything tactically.

Confusion lost a total of 50 tanks, (including 12 stuarts and 4 fireflies). I got 115-ish rifle sp's, 20-ish carrier rifle, a '3' officer (18 victory points) and very little else. Except for light mortars, he had no onboard artillery. Hmm.

My analysis of this scenario - it's a defender's dream, but if you are attacking, whichever side you play, you'd better be damn good or else you won't be able to make much of a dent. As it were, most of Confusion's and my victory points came from kills, not objectives. A very balanced scenario. There's also plenty of time to do whatever you need to do.

Abatis

04 Oct 05, 21:08

" It's amazing how differently your battle with Brian played out compared to mine and David's. I.E., it was noticably more violent. David and I, in comparison, basically just pointed at at other and said "YOU attack!!" to which the other replied, "no no, YOU attack!!" for most of the game, LOL.

:laugh: We were both quite aggressive throughout. Both of us were always on the attack after the intitial Canadian advance-making Mike perpetually on the attack.. Mike shifted over to the right after the left got worn to a nub and I pursued his fighting retreat on that flank nearly to the top of the map, and both advances continued till the end. We attacked eachother's attacks ceaslessly. With tacks among other things. No tax though. It was all for free.

Gnrl Confusion

05 Oct 05, 22:10

Congrats to John Given, nicely played. Near perfect.

After our initial allied attack was repulsed we set up our remaining morale level three forces to repulse the inevitable counterattack and waited. That was around turn 5 or 6.

After that we opened every turn with no virtually enemy in sight. Every spotter got his morale level three head shot off.

By turn 12 or so, our forces in the NE began their attack southward. Slow going, same problem. Ended every turn exposed, began each turn with little or nothing to shoot at. Some of us used our feet. Most missed.

Finally, turn 15 (ahhhhh turn 15), John began his counter. With his Panzers at last exposed I targeted my two air attacks. Captain Johnny "Has Anyone Seen My Glasses" Deloite, thoroughly (and I mean thoroughly) disrupted a German. Captain Freddy "You Go First, I'll Turn Back" Leroche lived up to his name. Most of the German casualties were caused by gut wrenching laughter.

At the May 14, 1954 Turn 15 Veteran's Day Celebration in Toronto (M141954T15VDCIT), Harold Ballard awarded the Canadian forces the prestigious "Lady Bing" medal for gentlemanly conduct (he was later arrested for pissing on a policeman's leg), and blamed the poor outcome on inconsistant officiating.

John's blunder was short lived, however, and he quickly went back to his earlier "we're-not going-to-give-you-a-damn-thing-to-shoot-at" strategy. By the time I had actually taken and held the the NE objective I was only 8 points into draw territory and he had final turn. We realized all was lost.

So we sent Harold Ballard south with a wet warm wash cloth and a 12 pack of Labatts.

michammer

10 Oct 05, 10:19

Has anyone heard from Jesdazone lately? I sent him my latest turn last Tuesday and haven't heard back from him. I emailed him Friday to see if he had received the turn, but I did not get a reply.

John Given

11 Oct 05, 00:21

I'm not sure he's even posted since that time.

What turn are you guys on, btw?

Spartan

11 Oct 05, 06:23

Myself and Full MOnty are on turn 16, at the moment it is a German Major victory but that could soon change with four more turns to go.

michammer

11 Oct 05, 06:42

I'm not sure he's even posted since that time.

What turn are you guys on, btw?

I had just sent him turn 13, so we still have a ways to go. We had been doing a turn a day, so we could have been nearly finished by now.

Krink

11 Oct 05, 16:56

Here we go again. I have pm'ed Jezdazone and hopefully we will hear from him soon.

Cheers,
Ray

michammer

11 Oct 05, 21:55

Here we go again. I have pm'ed Jezdazone and hopefully we will hear from him soon.

Cheers,
Ray

Thanks, Ray.

John Given

12 Oct 05, 01:17

I had just sent him turn 13, so we still have a ways to go. We had been doing a turn a day, so we could have been nearly finished by now.

Thanks Michammer. The reason I mentioned it, is because the scenario deadline finish date is Oct. 14th, just 2 days from now. I have no prolem waiting a few extra days, but I can't speak for Krink or the other members...

michammer

12 Oct 05, 06:48

Thanks Michammer. The reason I mentioned it, is because the scenario deadline finish date is Oct. 14th, just 2 days from now. I have no prolem waiting a few extra days, but I can't speak for Krink or the other members...

I have just received the next turn from Jesdazone, so we are back in action in France.

jesdazone2

13 Oct 05, 02:52

I must apologize to all those who are currently involved in this particular tournament but I was called away very early tuesday morning to assist in the recovery operations currently underway in New Orleans and Mississippi not a fun task trying to locate missing people needless to say. I am back and back on task hopefully they wont call me for assistance in Pakistan now I think I am safe for the time beaing and back to my one a day turns.

Once again i beg for your indulgence in this matter as work must come before the fun of trying to stop the canadians....

Jerry

Krink

13 Oct 05, 08:56

Thanks for the update Jezdazone. And I for one understand the importance of your work. If I would of known what was going on, then I wouldn't feel as if the tournament is sitting in limbo.

Now go clean the map of Canadians.

Cheers,
Ray

jesdazone2

15 Oct 05, 19:46

still trying to get rid of those pesky canadians but htey are not fighting fair they are using their artillery to deliver bottles of canadian whiskey then overrunning my troops when they fall down dead drunk

not a fair fight at all because i dont have the means to air deliver schnapps back at them

jesdazone

Spartan

16 Oct 05, 11:41

Myself and Full Monty have finished. It ended -710 Allied Major Defeat. Thanks for the game Kev, you were unlucky that your units were disrupted so quickly and were not released quickly.

Ray, I have tried to report the game on the ladder but Full Monty is not registered on there. Can you report it for me.

Thanks,

Richard

Krink

16 Oct 05, 11:57

Attention everyone...
All players in the tournament are supposed to be on the CS ladder. Please signup A.S.A.P. Then be sure your games from the tournament are ALL reported. I thought everyone was on the ladder already.

Cheers,
Ray

John Given

16 Oct 05, 14:07

MINUS 710 points? Holy cow, what did you do to him Spartan?

Congrats to both of you! :) Sounded like a bloody fight indeed.

Full Monty

16 Oct 05, 16:58

MINUS 710 points? Holy cow, what did you do to him Spartan?

Congrats to both of you! :) Sounded like a bloody fight indeed.

He beat me :smoke:

Actually, I was totally thrown by the fixed units (one of several issues I have with the Campaign Series games) which, of course, remain fixed for the whole game.

Full Monty

16 Oct 05, 16:59

Full Monty

16 Oct 05, 17:01

Okay, sorted now :)

Krink

19 Oct 05, 22:56

Need an update....who is left to finish?

Cheers,
Ray

jesdazone2

19 Oct 05, 23:08

my opponent and myself are now on turn 19 sorry for the delay but duty called me to new orleans for a week and a half next tiem i will take my laptop along just so i can continue to play and use it as therapy from the task of locating missign people after diaster.............

michammer

23 Oct 05, 08:34

Myself and Jesdazone have now finished, and the result is a Major Allied Victory (1298 pts). As Canadians, I attacked from the start, pushing both available sherman companies down my left flank to attack Epron. Meanwhile, the Stuart company and the carrier rifle units moved straight down the center and took Buron. A couple of turns later and I held Epron, while my opponent had retaken, and held, Buron.

The majority of the rest of the battle took place around these 2 towns. By turn 12, I had destroyed what turned out to be all of his armour, so my shermans had pretty much free reign. Unfortunately, his artillery was very effective and my infantry seemed to keep moving between the same 2 or 3 hexes - I would advance, and then his artillery would force them to retreat. A lot of my units were also disrupted by his artillery.

I retook Buron on about turn 15, and then St Contest on turn 18. This was achieved with the help of the now released Fireflies, and by swinging my infantry west from Epron to help out. The arrival of the Ulster Rifles helped here.

Jesdazone's artillery fire released 5 of the fixed infantry platoons and allowed me to use them, and a platoon of Stuarts) to take the objective just SW of Buron, (around turn 14) and to hold Buron itself when I finally retook the objective.

The rest of the game I advanced south but did not take any more objectives as my tanks were outrunning my infantry. Unfortunately, I was not in a position to assault any more objective hexes, that were well defended, with just tanks.

All in all a good scenario and a great game.

jesdazone2

23 Oct 05, 12:33

hey michhammer take a look at the true after action report i posted if you really want to know what happened. it is a new post LOL

michammer

23 Oct 05, 13:12

hey michhammer take a look at the true after action report i posted if you really want to know what happened. it is a new post LOL
Yep, I read it, and I think it is a lot more accurate than mine!!!

Krink

23 Oct 05, 13:36

Am I stupid or what? Where is the AAR?

Cheers,
Ray

Gnrl Confusion

23 Oct 05, 16:01

Just because you're a Jets fan doesn't make you stupid. Just a little slow.

http://www.strategyzoneonline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33944

Krink

23 Oct 05, 16:05

dem is fightin words.

but thanks for the link.

Cheers,
Ray
J-E-T-S Jets, Jets, Jets.

Krink

23 Oct 05, 16:09

Silly me...I was looking in the AAR section.

John Given

25 Oct 05, 20:51

Where do we stand on the tourney, Krink? I haven't heard anything in a while - are we ready to start round 5?

I'm itchin' for my tourney fix! :rifle:

Krink

25 Oct 05, 21:00

Final round coming up soon. I know everybody would like to get started, so I will get it going as soon as possible. Has everyone posted their scores in this thread. This round has lasted so long I have lost track. :~)

Cheers,
Ray

Krink

25 Oct 05, 22:13

Could everyone check to ensure the scenario "Hedgerows inferno" works for them.

I will wait to see if we can't use it before going ahead with the next round.

Cheers,
Ray

Gnrl Confusion

25 Oct 05, 22:34

Works for me, but wasn't part of my original CD. I downloaded it off the Blitz. If anyone needs it, it's attached.

Krink

25 Oct 05, 22:55

John Given

26 Oct 05, 02:53

Hey Abatis, y'hear that? Looks like I'm gonna get another crack at ya in "Hedgerow Inferno" ... :devil:

Revenge is sweet, but I just hope it doesn't turn out to be 'double jeapardy' instead, lol. :laugh:

Edit - or maybe not - since I just recalled I alreay played you earlier in the tourney - darn it! :censored:

*sigh* that's what i get for posting when I'm half asleep...

Well, I'll...I'll...get to thrash somebody else then! :freak: :hurt: :nofear:

Abatis

26 Oct 05, 15:06

Hedgerows works fine for me. I like that scenario alot. Have won it and lost it. Statistically, it has a slight Allied bent. German OOB is formidable though -lots of options!

Greyhound bested me a few months back in that one, so it works on his pute. !

John, don't know if we'll be matched up or not. Would be fine with me though ;)

Gnrl Confusion

26 Oct 05, 15:07

Thats wierd. I didn't download it. It is on my disc. There should be a list somewhere of all the versions, and what works for each. Maybe this is somethjing Matrix can fix. NO MORE PATCHES!

Cheers,
Ray.

Could be I was tired and just passed it while looking last night (also known as [JGS] John Given Syndrome). I didn't get a "same file found" error when I put the files in my WF folder though.

Spartan

26 Oct 05, 16:03

Downloaded it from link, works fine on mine.

Full Monty

26 Oct 05, 21:55

Downloaded it from link, works fine on mine.

Same here.

michammer

26 Oct 05, 22:18

I had to download from the link as it did not appear in my EiF scenario list. Good news is - it works!

John Given

26 Oct 05, 23:14

Hedgerows Inferno was one of the first (maybe THE first) scens I played against Abatis on. I probably shouldn't reveal the main strategy or 'flow' of the battle (ruins the surprise) but I can honestly say the battle gives both sides plenty to work with.

As far as having a slight allied bent; I would agree, but it's minor. The German can compensate by not wasting time, concentrating his forces in one area, and keeping non-essentials out of sight (y'know, the usual strategy stuff). Any advantage comes from the fact that the Germans apparently must do the bulk of the attacking, and attacking is nearly always harder then defending.

This is a scen where you must consider security - roads are good, so an enemy can move huge distances in just a few turns - don't let the name of the scen fool you.

One more thing, if you're like me, and use the (as Gen. Confusion put it) "I'm not gonna give the enemy anything to shoot at" strategy (by means of hiding most of your force), you will be kept very busy in this scenario, as visibility is excellent, and a large hill/mountain dominates the western portion of the board, awarding excellent spotting opportunities...

But the best things about this scen are the fact that you have plenty of time (20 turns, and, like I said earlier, plenty of stuff to work with, especially artillery and tanks.

:)