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Menschenfresser
03 May 03, 00:44
I just received turn 5 from an opponent and I am playing the Soviets. So I'm going from unit to unit and I come across:

27th Army
183rd (Lat) RD

A division sized unit and at first glance it looked normal...then I noticed the movement points. It has 122 of 159 M.P.s before moving. It wasn't entrained last turn and it isn't now. I've checked the unit list and there isn't anything odd about it.

Why does a normal infantry unit have such a high number of movement points?

Menschenfresser
03 May 03, 00:47
Oh wait...now I remember...I think it was entrained last turn, but why does it still have such high movement points. It isn't entrained now because it was attacked and retreated. And the MPs aren't rail because I can move it damned near all the way to Moscos across back country.

Odd

JAMiAM
03 May 03, 01:31
That's a quirk of the engine. When entrained units are retreated, they retain the rail movement allowance, minus any points lost from the retreat. Movement points are spent according to a unit that might "normally" have that excessive amount of movment points, so movement along roads only costs 1 MP per hex, though movement costs can be highly inflated if the terrain modifiers are percent, rather than scalar additives.

(above paragraph edited for clarity)

Note that this only affects player two units in pbem games, as any retreated, entrained units disembark and regain their full normal movement allowances during the Automatic Bookkeeping Phase.

Also not that this is different from the "retreat" result against entrained units which lose their movement when attacked by enemy air units on interdiction missions. They stay entrained and regain entrained movement points during the ABP

Kraut
03 May 03, 05:40
Yepp, that happened to me, too. The unit was retreated and had 0 of several hundred MP left. The nasty on is that the unit will still be counted as embarked if you click on the general report were the available rail capacity is noted although the unit can't be disembarked. You can't imagine how long I was searching for a *******ed embarked unit all over the map until I found this unit and realized that it was this unit who was still using the remaining rail capacity!! :cheeky:

Richard
03 May 03, 06:37
Kraut-

Your situation is normal- menschenfresser had an anomaly I think

Normally all of the movement is lost if retreat status caused- interdiction bombings can often cause this

Cheers

Richard

Menschenfresser
03 May 03, 14:20
Hehe...you're telling me.

Just for kicks I tried to disengage the unit, which was next to a single German ID. To disengage into an evergreen forest hex, took 39 movement points, but it was successful. :)