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ER_Chaser
25 Aug 02, 21:16
Just wanted to create a stand-alone thread for people to briefly post their progress in the OPFOR Challenge tourney here. This way the commanders could easily track them all.
Tex and I have started the first round. Over
Good idea!
Turn one to Bruce last night. I received a reply that he would be out of town until after the 3rd of September. We will try for at least a turn a day after that, since he will again be gone for a week after the 18th of September.
sent off turn 2 earlier this evening. I think Brevet and I are ahead of the pack
Tiberius
Sent turn one to Popester last night.Good luck to all but mainly OPFOR.
I sent turn three to Von Manstein last night.
Just sent turn 3 to Chuck.
Sent turn 2 to SATCOM today
Got the OPFOR second turn from Mantis.
Major Banned
26 Aug 02, 13:53
:(
Keef and I are on hold this week, so I get to live vicariously through my team.
Sent turn 3 to Satcom and his Axis of Evil cronies. :)
Chuck is working on US turn 4.
Just sent my turn 3 to Joe Bob.
Don Maddox
29 Aug 02, 15:58
Let's have some feedback on the scenario. I'm sure Tim would like to hear your initial impressions and so would I. :rambo:
Siberian HEAT
29 Aug 02, 16:40
I would be curious on Tim's impressions on how he set this up to be the "even" scenario of the 3.
The OPFOR team starts out in mobile status in nice neat stacks for the US team to abuse on turn 1. Likewise, US supply is vastly superior to the OPFOR and they have TWO supply units. I haven't broken it down but I would suspect unit quality is also higher in general for the US side vs. Soviet equipment.
I am not complaining, but since there are no player notes per se, I would just be interested in hearing his rationale for the setup.
I can't wait to see the scenario that favors the US!! :banana:
I figure the OPFOR favored scenario will have about 10 million friggin tanks coming at one lone US bde LOL
It would have to be like that to make this fair. This should be the US scenario. In addition to the notes above, I've done 5 turns now, and have only had 1 of my four fighters active >once<.
So add vast air superiority to the list.
Perhaps next time, the scenarios can be made a month or so in advance, and two equally matched players (that will either not participate, or will be paired against each other) should play mirror games or something to be sure that the thing is at least close to balanced.
Or, alternatively, if two players vollunteer to do this, they could be awarded 50 ladder points each for agreeing to test all 3 of the scenarios.
I'm not one to sit and *****, but if this is the 'balanced' scenario, I'm ready to apply for US citizenship when the US scenario comes along.
OPFOR commanders, persevere, we shall prevail!
Tim McBride
29 Aug 02, 20:10
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
I would be curious on Tim's impressions on how he set this up to be the "even" scenario of the 3.
The OPFOR team starts out in mobile status in nice neat stacks for the US team to abuse on turn 1. Likewise, US supply is vastly superior to the OPFOR and they have TWO supply units. I haven't broken it down but I would suspect unit quality is also higher in general for the US side vs. Soviet equipment.
I am not complaining, but since there are no player notes per se, I would just be interested in hearing his rationale for the setup.
Both sides have two supply points, one in the main game area and one in the airfields. Both set of units have nearly the same Proficiency. BOth sides use some of the latest equipment. I think the problem I made was forgetting to set the OPFOR to a Fotified stance. The supply difference is becuase OPFOR units normally do have lower supply, I tried to be realistic with that.
If in the end the scenario results end up favoring the US player I will compensate in the 3 scenario.
_Tim
That sounds really cool, Tim. At the same time, I just want to throw it out that that might not tell you if the scenario is balanced or not.
A US player that I have daily contact with is of the mind that the OPFOR team is more experienced by a decent margin than our opponents. I can't speak to this myself, as I really don't know the strengths of too many players. Just wanted you to be aware of that possibility, in case you have other plans for the scenario.
Siberian HEAT
29 Aug 02, 20:33
Originally posted by Tim McBride
Both sides have two supply points, one in the main game area and one in the airfields.
_Tim
I was talking about the fact the US player has two supply units and the OPFOR team has none. This tells me the US team has offensive potential while the OPFOR team is destined to remain on the defensive. Not that it makes a huge difference...just seems odd the US has 2.
Balance, schmalance! God is on our side...we're supposed to win...
Ps. I want one of these smileys easily available for the board.
Major Banned
29 Aug 02, 21:15
Originally posted by JAMiAM
Balance, schmalance! God is on our side...we're supposed to win...
Ps. I want one of these smileys easily available for the board.
It's a meeting engagement. If OPFOR is getting it's butt kicked, it's due to superior leadership! Like my granddad, General Catastrophe, used to say "Quit yer cryin and take an ass whoopin like a man".
:rolleyes:
Why ain't we got any HQ's? It's anarchy out there :o
Supplies, supplies? We don't need no stinking supplies.
:nofear:
It's hard to go on an offensive as OPFOR even when you get the chance. The US supply levels are at 20+ (with supply units) and we have 5's. I've got it! To balance it, OPFOR should get 1500 air trasport points and 30 little 1-1 paras...
;)
Dan Neely
30 Aug 02, 00:57
I have to agree with mantis that the supply gap is a bit on the excessive side. With an effective 20:3 supply level (no opforce hqs so they only get 2/3rds supply max) on the border they really don't have any potential to advance. If they fall back from hte border the supply situation gets somewhat more even, and holding to a draw/MD should be possible, but I can't see any major opforce victories without a major skill gap as the cause.
Originally posted by Dan Neely
they really don't have any potential to advance.
I'm advancing anyways...
:ar15: :ar15: :nofear: :ar15: :ar15:
Well we may have all those other advantages. But OPFOR companies have the same factors as US battalions -and I see a lot more of them
Don Maddox
30 Aug 02, 06:12
Originally posted by JAMiAM
Balance, schmalance! God is on our side...we're supposed to win...
Ps. I want one of these smileys easily available for the board.
I feel like Richard Dawson. You asked for it, you got it!!! :gas:
Originally posted by Maddog
I feel like Richard Dawson. You asked for it, you got it!!! :gas:
LoL! As long as your don't give me one of those sloppy, wet kisses and hugs that he was famous for...:gas:
Thanks for the gasmaske!
In other news, Bruce and I will be able to get our game rolling, as he's back early. First turn resent to him.
Major Banned
30 Aug 02, 12:01
Anyone have contact with Pablo Eduardo Velo? Or have a valid e-mail address? Seems he is slightly AWOL and would like to check on his status.:angry:
Fading Captain
30 Aug 02, 18:02
Regarding issues of balance brought up by the OPFOR team. . .
I understand your frustration. Playing as the Allies, the first couple turns I felt like I was the Axis launching Barbarossa on a postage-stamp-sized map. (Perhaps starting the client service units of the Allies a few hexes back from their current starting locations could be a solution. That way it would be more of a meeting engagement in the true sense of the term, and the Allies could get in less attack rounds out of the starting blocks).
But part of me also says that it is way too early to pass judgement regarding this scenario's balance. There has yet to be one completed game, and most of the ".sav" files I've seen show gridlock right at the border.
Mantis I also think is perceptive to point out the human factor. Weird things can happen when two humans of different ability play each other--and no two players have the same exact skill level. You can look at a scenario objectively and say "This is unbalanced." And you may be right. But when players start playing a scenario things can turn out differently. If I remember correctly, going into the Sands Tourney I think that the general consensus was that Tobruk and Crusader favored the CW, and thus the whole tourney was balanced toward the CW. Yet it looks like the Axis will manage to barely squeak out a victory.
If OPFOR Challange 1 is too unbalanced for a scenario that is supposed to give both sides an equal shot at victory then fair enough, but let's wait until we have all of the results from the first round to consider whether the balance of subsequent scenarios in the tourney need to have their balance tweaked to compensate for this.
Just my two cents. . .
Fading Captain
Major Banned
31 Aug 02, 20:41
Keef and I are up to turn 3 now.
I wonder if it is possible to create a temporary, secure forum for each side during tournament play. Instead of sending emails to everybody on your team with AARs and fiile attachments, we could merely post our AAR's on the messageboard and attach the file, thereby giving access to those who want to see the files and read the AAR's, while not spamming the email boxes of those who might not be as interested. Would also act as an excellent archive of helpful hints that could be utilized throughout the tournament.
If this is possible, would there be any interest in such a system over the current email system?
Fading Captain
01 Sep 02, 22:52
Originally posted by Tex
I wonder if it is possible to create a temporary, secure forum for each side during tournament play. Instead of sending emails to everybody on your team with AARs and fiile attachments, we could merely post our AAR's on the messageboard and attach the file, thereby giving access to those who want to see the files and read the AAR's, while not spamming the email boxes of those who might not be as interested. Would also act as an excellent archive of helpful hints that could be utilized throughout the tournament.
If this is possible, would there be any interest in such a system over the current email system?
An excellent suggestion! Not sure if it's possible though. If it doesn't work out teams could maybe look into setting up temporary discussion groups at Yahoo for the duration of the tourney--as I suggested to the Allied team via e-mail.
This also opens up the possbilility for teams to launch spy operations against each other! :devious: Just kidding.
Fading Captain
RavenStrike
05 Sep 02, 09:54
Balanced or unbalanced, seems it's too close and too early to call. But it's not too early to thank Tim for taking the time and effort to put together a really neat tournament of three totally new scenarios for us to enjoy! Many thanks Tim, and I hope this becomes a regular tournament option. ;)
Siberian HEAT
05 Sep 02, 10:23
Originally posted by RavenStrike
Balanced or unbalanced, seems it's too close and too early to call. But it's not too early to thank Tim for taking the time and effort to put together a really neat tournament of three totally new scenarios for us to enjoy! Many thanks Tim, and I hope this becomes a regular tournament option. ;)
Good call Ravenstrike. Thanks to Tim for putting out the extra effort to give us fresh material. Not sure this has ever been done before and of course there will be bugs to work out...but that is part of warfare!
I think that as the games progress, we are seeing that the scenario is not nearly as unbalanced as the early reports would have suggested. One of the things that goes a LONG way toward balancing that is the 4:1 loss intolerance ratio favoring the OPFOR. Given that most of the objectives in the scenario are either out of reach, except by blundering of one side, or of too little value, the loss penalties will likely be the telling factor in the various levels of victory. My prediction is that given roughly equal opponents, most of the results will not vary much from a draw.
I noticed that the OPFOR seem to be doing okay even though there were those early complaints. Boy it's going to be fun on the defense. lol
Sent turn 7 to SATCOM tonight.
Originally posted by JAMiAM
One of the things that goes a LONG way toward balancing that is the 4:1 loss intolerance ratio favoring the OPFOR.
This is killing us in most of the scenarios. Even if we can advance forward against the OPFOR hordes they are racking up huge points for every tank, truck, and helo they destroy.
Originally posted by RavenStrike
Balanced or unbalanced, seems it's too close and too early to call. But it's not too early to thank Tim for taking the time and effort to put together a really neat tournament of three totally new scenarios for us to enjoy! Many thanks Tim, and I hope this becomes a regular tournament option. ;)
The first scenario has gone well IMO. There should be a wide range of results judging my some of the reports out there. Tim did a good job putting this one together.
Originally posted by Fading Captain
This also opens up the possbilility for teams to launch spy operations against each other! :devious: Just kidding.
Fading Captain
I can create a new user name called Siberian HEAT. if it will help with counterintelligence. No one will notice the period at the end, will they?
Just sent my Turn 9 off. Things are certainly getting interesting, the supply is difficult to deal with but then the loss penalty my opponent suffers probably makes up for it. :)
I really wouldn't want to make any predictions as to how this battle will turn out. Its very fluid at the moment, he has a LOT of firepower in the centre but I seem to be making some headway on the flanks.
Just like to point out that whatever the outcome of this battle, I'm really enjoying myself and Joe Bob is a top guy and a pleasure to play against. :)
Tim McBride
06 Sep 02, 15:26
Thanks for the compliments guys. From the sounds of things I need to get cooking on the next scenario, since most of you are almost done.
_Tim
Dan Neely
06 Sep 02, 15:36
not everyone is so far along. I've only sent t4 to ravenstrike. we had backtoback periods away from the computer.
Major Banned
06 Sep 02, 22:58
Originally posted by Dan Neely
not everyone is so far along. I've only sent t4 to ravenstrike. we had backtoback periods away from the computer.
Keef and I are on turn 15. Not bad, considering we've been playing less than a week.
Let me add my compliments to Tim on a well designed tournament scenario.
FYI Boss, I haven't heard from SATCOM in a while. Just keeping you informed. I think real life has overcome him for a while.
Major Banned
12 Sep 02, 07:43
Originally posted by Popester
FYI Boss, I haven't heard from SATCOM in a while. Just keeping you informed. I think real life has overcome him for a while.
Keep me informed, the pace has been good for this first round and we need to keep it up! I sure would like to see some "blue" results on the tournament page, those two "red" ones are hard on the eyes.
He's back, just exchanged T8 he'll be out of town for 2 wks but will have a laptop he says.
Just sent out turn 8 to Popester.....My kingdom for a NATO Tank Brigade! Moving complete so real life can be put on hold and back to the game!
Give me your Kingdom and I'll give you a NATO tank Bde. Of course we'd call it something like "The Brigade of Occupation" but you will be able to see it and touch it everyday in the streets of all your cities. :banana:
On second thought I'll just have to fight to the last from my new HQ in the Caymans....I'm sure the people will understand
FYI I will be around to play until Saturday night and checking for your turns after that I'll be at Fort Meade (of all places) but should have internet and computer access.
Popester....Turn 9 on the way to you....
Major Banned
16 Sep 02, 20:13
We should be having a major update on the tournament page, seems like alot of games are finishing up today.
Good work for both teams!
Don Maddox
18 Sep 02, 03:02
Both the ladder and the tournament page have been updated.
Hi guys,
I am happy to report a marginal victory for OPFOR.
ER_Chaser
18 Sep 02, 15:37
Originally posted by Rince
Hi guys,
I am happy to report a marginal victory for OPFOR.
KEWL!! buddy, you know how desperate we need this point!!! Great job, herr general! :alien:
Don Maddox
18 Sep 02, 16:15
This is a damn close battle so far! :freak:
Dan Neely
18 Sep 02, 17:08
Hienz57's game is currently at a SV on t15 which should add signifigantly to the allied total.
My game is currently a draw, but after evaporating almost a 3rd of the soviet bns Ravenstrike is in fullscale retreat.
I have contact with 5 1/3 red inf bns and 3 tank bns. He might have 1 more red bn hiding somewhere, but the remainder are all dead. One of the mech bns is surounded and has been effectively reduced to a leg bn, and will be finished off the next turn. the mech co is 1-1 and is AV fodder like the macov bns
Unless he rallies somehow and manages to stop my headlong rush I'll probabally take Macov around turn 12.
Major Banned
18 Sep 02, 21:39
Originally posted by Maddog
This is a damn close battle so far! :freak:
If the next two scenarios are U.S. defend and OPFOR defend, it could very well come down to the first round action. I'm looking forward to seeing what the next scenario is like.
But I would still like to see some more Blue results on the tournament page!
Scenerio over Popester has a marginal victory in 15 turns.
Not sure if it will go into T17...ha....pending Liveline99's turn, looking like Marg. Defeat for me.
Well boss, we can add a little more blue to that tourney page. As SATCOM said earlier we got a MV for our side.
I am reading all this thread and I can't wait to jump in the next tournament! Too bad I did not register before the start of OPFOR :(
Major Banned
20 Sep 02, 20:07
Originally posted by Popester
Well boss, we can add a little more blue to that tourney page. As SATCOM said earlier we got a MV for our side.
Good job! Have you reported the game yet? All tournament games need to be reported through the standard reporting feature, for anyone that is not familiar with the process.
Perhaps one of our fearless leaders should summarize the procedure for newbies and lazy people alike.
:skull:
Yes the game has been reported by SATCOM, I got the auto email back from the HQ yesterday or so.
Tzar check with Major C. and see if he'd like to have you as an alternate. That's how I got into the Sands Tourney round 3, as an alternate. We already had one guy drop out.
Originally posted by Popester
Tzar check with Major C. and see if he'd like to have you as an alternate. That's how I got into the Sands Tourney round 3, as an alternate. We already had one guy drop out.
Well, Major Catastrophe, if you need an alternate, I am reporting for duty Sir! :)
Major Banned
21 Sep 02, 16:27
Originally posted by Tzar
Well, Major Catastrophe, if you need an alternate, I am reporting for duty Sir! :)
Good deal, I'll let Maddog know to put you in as an alternate on the U.S. team!
Unfortunately, the offer of free beer has expired.
:(
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Good deal, I'll let Maddog know to put you in as an alternate on the U.S. team!
Unfortunately, the offer of free beer has expired.
:(
OK. Too bad for the free beer :)
Don Maddox
22 Sep 02, 18:03
I'll have an update for the ladder and the tournament page before long. I've been swamped with all the stuff I'm working on.
Don Maddox
24 Sep 02, 13:57
It's updated.
Don Maddox
25 Sep 02, 16:16
Man this is going to be a close one! The OPFOR has unexpectedly come from behind and knocked the Allied Forces out of first place.
ER_Chaser
25 Sep 02, 17:06
Originally posted by Maddog
Man this is going to be a close one! The OPFOR has unexpectedly come from behind and knocked the Allied Forces out of first place.
:banana: :banana: :banana: :banana:
Dan Neely
29 Sep 02, 00:10
My game with RavenStrike has ended in a crushing total US OV. The only surviving opforce unit was the offmap sam.
Allied losses were heavy, Jalmu suffered 50% losses, US losses were 33% among the armor and infantry and an appalling 75% among army aviation. In responce, the Pentagon us pushing the Comanche project forward as fast as possible.
Major Banned
29 Sep 02, 12:36
Originally posted by Dan Neely
My game with RavenStrike has ended in a crushing total US OV. The only surviving opforce unit was the offmap sam.
Allied losses were heavy, Jalmu suffered 50% losses, US losses were 33% among the armor and infantry and an appalling 75% among army aviation. In responce, the Pentagon us pushing the Comanche project forward as fast as possible.
:D :p :cool: :banana: :ar15: :nofear:
Pretty much sums it up!
It can't get any closer: OPFOR vs US is now tied, 260-260.
UPdate UPdate UPdate!!!
:p J/K, Maddog... :clown:
Major Banned
30 Sep 02, 19:17
Maybe we should have left this scenario for last!
Ohh suuuuurrrree!!!
And you think the OPFOR team was *****ing at the start of this scenario! Imagine if it was for all the marbles! lol!! :D
But seriously, we are having one helluva good round, aren't we? Close one!
Major Banned
01 Oct 02, 07:49
Originally posted by Mantis
Ohh suuuuurrrree!!!
And you think the OPFOR team was *****ing at the start of this scenario! Imagine if it was for all the marbles! lol!! :D
But seriously, we are having one helluva good round, aren't we? Close one!
No, but if the first two were U.S. defend and OPFOR defend, this one would have made a good final scenario and made the whole tourney a cliffhanger. Either way, it's going to be a great tourney and with it being so close, it should keep everyone's attention. I think that this scenario will determine the overall winner. Maybe Tim should get a sudden-death overtime scenario ready, just in case!
:D
No doubt... We're all tied up at 260 after the update, with a handful of games yet to come.
Cheetah772
06 Oct 02, 00:38
Hello,
It may be turning into our Allied favor....
I'm currently on Turn 14 (I think), I had just captured the Macow base, worth 75 pts. It's an overwhelming victory right now. No, the game isn't over. I think just one or two more turns to go. But it's unlikely that my opponent will succeed in dislodging my unit from Macow base. I had destroyed or evaporated my opponent's units racing to dislodge my "occupying" troops with all of my airpower available....
All I can say is thank God, it's not my game that is the most critical moment in the continuing battle between OPFOR and Allied sides! Kinda like making a 3 point shoot at the end of a basketball game with just a few seconds left....hehe. We still have three or more games undecided at this moment. I wouldn't want to sweat hard or feel your hands of wrath on me as I move my units across the barren land passing the burnt OPFOR tanks in my first Tourney game....
Bye,
Dan
Major Banned
09 Oct 02, 12:30
ETA on the next tournament page update?
Don Maddox
09 Oct 02, 14:16
I have not received any more endgame reports. There's nothing to update yet.
Major Banned
09 Oct 02, 16:15
Originally posted by Maddog
I have not received any more endgame reports. There's nothing to update yet.
Cheetah had emailed us of his OV. Must not have posted his results. I'll have him take care of it.
Major Banned
14 Oct 02, 20:52
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Cheetah had emailed us of his OV. Must not have posted his results. I'll have him take care of it.
I noticed that Dan's (Cheetah772's) overwhelming victory still has not been put up on the tournament page. Also Sadman Insane needs to contact me as to the status of the Tigris/Pablo match. I can understand the delay between Siberian Heat/Fistandantilus, but we need to get moving on to the second round before all players lose interest.
Could these last couple of games go any slower?
:bored:
Von Manstein
15 Oct 02, 00:15
Originally posted by Chuck
Could these last couple of games go any slower?
:bored:
Yeah tell me about it. I almost forgot I was even playing in a tourney. I just wish the next scenario would be completed so we can start testing it. *hint* *hint* :clap: :clap:
Maybe the new scenario and possibly even some match-ups will encourage the laggers
Don Maddox
15 Oct 02, 16:18
There are still 3 outstanding games. :bored:
Round 1 was supposed to end two weeks ago. I hate to do it, but I'm afraid that I will have to declare these remaining games draws unless I get some endgame reports soon. We really need to get Round 2 started. These are short quick-playing scenarios.
Team captains, please get those remaining battles finished as soon as possible.
In the mean time here is scenario #2.
Siberian HEAT
15 Oct 02, 16:33
Oh please please please give me a draw against Fistandantilus :freak:
We are on turn 13 and should be wrapping up shortly. His forces are massed around the Macov home city and are about to make short work of the defenders. My units are spent, helos long since gone, 90% of armor/infantry evaporated, and only old men and boys out in the trenches trying to hold off the mostly intact Allied forces.
Currently stands at a marginal loss for OPFOR side, but destined to go way down over the next 3 turns. Unless I get a miracle it will be a horrific loss. My units have had no luck standing up to the allied army and evap themselves probably 50% of the time. I have been most disappointed in my OPFOR units... :hurt:
Siberian HEAT
15 Oct 02, 16:39
There are only two outstanding games.
Heinz57 vs. Liveline99 resulted in an Allied Marginal Victory
This leaves mine/Fists which at best will be a Marginal defeat for me...and at worst... :cry:
The Tigris/Pablo game is the only one currently unknown.
Let's go, OPFOR boys!
D!! D!! Hold the line!:devious: :mad: :stop:
Dan Neely
15 Oct 02, 17:58
I hate to rain on your parade Mantis, but It doesn't look good for the opforce. With the US up by 35pts (counting Hienz57's game) and HEATs game looking to be a US OV it looks like the 1st round is going to go our way, if not by an overwelming degree.
:nofear: :ar15: :skull: :rifle: :violin:
Siberian HEAT
15 Oct 02, 18:24
Good news folks!!!
Sadman_Insane won the popular vote back home...so he can continue to lead us on our glorious war against the infidel Westerners!
3 Cheers for Sadman!!!
:thumup:
Major Banned
15 Oct 02, 18:39
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
Good news folks!!!
Sadman_Insane won the popular vote back home...so he can continue to lead us on our glorious war against the infidel Westerners!
3 Cheers for Sadman!!!
:thumup:
Cool! Now maybe he can contact me and we can figure out what to do about the Tigris/Pablo situation and we can move on to the next round. I'm of the thought that we should implement a couple of replacement players for the next round.
:PIMP:
Major Banned
15 Oct 02, 18:52
Tzar, send me an e-mail at dshafer@evertek.net
Fading Captain
15 Oct 02, 19:27
Now that the first round of the tourney is coming to (hopefully) a close and most of the results are in. . .
In hindsight, what do people think of the balance of OPFOR Challenge 1?
Fading Captain
ER_Chaser
15 Oct 02, 20:01
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
Oh please please please give me a draw against Fistandantilus :freak:
We are on turn 13 and should be wrapping up shortly. His forces are massed around the Macov home city and are about to make short work of the defenders. My units are spent, helos long since gone, 90% of armor/infantry evaporated, and only old men and boys out in the trenches trying to hold off the mostly intact Allied forces.
Currently stands at a marginal loss for OPFOR side, but destined to go way down over the next 3 turns. Unless I get a miracle it will be a horrific loss. My units have had no luck standing up to the allied army and evap themselves probably 50% of the time. I have been most disappointed in my OPFOR units... :hurt:
Only old men and kids left? And he is still ruthlessly attacking your helpless harmless nice people?
Maddog, your honor, I think we have a serious situation here, as a member of the OPFOR, a professional soldier, I believe there is solid evidence for the atrocity which Fistandantilus is commiting against the peace loving people of OPFOR territory. I hereby promote a formal legal suit against US army general Fistandantilus on his slaughter of innocent harmless people in the names of military action to the international military court at WarfareHQ.com. I also suggest severe measurement including an overwhelming defeat conclusion upon the battle being fought toward the offending general, Fistandantilus, as so.
OPFOR 2nd Mech. Inf., 3rd Reg. 1st Company Rifle platoon
ER_Chaser
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Tzar, send me an e-mail at dshafer@evertek.net
I just replied positively by email to your request, Major :)
Major Banned
15 Oct 02, 20:32
Originally posted by ER_Chaser
Only old men and kids left? And he is still ruthlessly attacking your helpless harmless nice people?
Maddog, your honor, I think we have a serious situation here, as a member of the OPFOR, a professional soldier, I believe there is solid evidence for the atrocity which Fistandantilus is commiting against the peace loving people of OPFOR territory. I hereby promote a formal legal suit against US army general Fistandantilus on his slaughter of innocent harmless people in the names of military action to the international military court at WarfareHQ.com. I also suggest severe measurement including an overwhelming defeat conclusion upon the battle being fought toward the offending general, Fistandantilus, as so.
OPFOR 2nd Mech. Inf., 3rd Reg. 1st Company Rifle platoon
ER_Chaser
Quit yer whining! In the words of Michael Buffer "This fight is brought to you by permission of the Boxing Commission of Nevada. In coordination with the MGM Grand Hotel and Casino and Budweiser, the undefeated and undisputed King of Beers, Budweiser, this Bud's for you. Three rounds of boxing for the undisputed championship of the world. And now for the thousands in attendance and the millions watching aroung the world, Let's get ready to Rumble!"
Or in the famous words of Mills Lane, world famous boxing referee, "Let's get it on!"
ER_Chaser
16 Oct 02, 12:43
oh ye.. right. Fist is only a subordinate of the higher command structure of the US army. How could I forget that? ... right. We should hold his direct commander and his organization which Harbored such atrocity responsible as well. In particular, that means the US team and you, sir, Major Catatrophe (urr.. look at thsi guy's name! :PIMP:
Well, but we can settle if you wanna avoid a legal conflict. That way, you should plea guilty and send a check payable to the HEAT relief fund, OPFOR base, CA 91347 with an amount no less than 5 million Afghanistan shields (is it called shields?.. anyway... that is the currency we OPFOR use... :hog: ) to settle the personal suit against Gen. Fist and no less than 5 billion Afghanistan shields to OPFOR development fund (same address, anyway) to settle for the organizational charge against the US team and Major, yourself.
:freak:
And should you plea not guilty, a hearing date will be arranged at the discretion of WarfareHQ.com.
ER,
If the peace-loving, rock throwing people of Macov would quit getting in the way of GEN Fist's bullets they wouldn't get hurt.:p
Siberian HEAT
16 Oct 02, 14:43
Originally posted by Popester
ER,
If the peace-loving, rock throwing people of Macov would quit getting in the way of GEN Fist's bullets they wouldn't get hurt.:p
At last check the peace-loving Macovians stand on the brink of extinction. At best, OPFOR is looking at a SD for my match. FIST is unstoppable... By the time this is all over I should have exactly 3 air units and 1 AA unit in my once mighty arsenal.
:whlchr:
OPFOR Challenge 3 will be an American attempt to rescue our Commander from the brig in the Hague while he awaits prosecution in the World Criminal Court.
Originally posted by Dan Neely
I hate to rain on your parade Mantis, but It doesn't look good for the opforce. With the US up by 35pts (counting Hienz57's game) and HEATs game looking to be a US OV it looks like the 1st round is going to go our way, if not by an overwelming degree.
:nofear: :ar15: :skull: :rifle: :violin:
Actually, with hindsight I can say that the OPFOR team actually pulled out an incredible performance. I've been discussing it with several players on both sides, and there is little doubt that were we to play this round over again, the US team would have a much larger score. (I doubt we could get even close to half the points we have now). We got lucky, and the general lack of experience with this map gave us an edge.
That wasn't an engagement scenario, that was a US attacker scenario. Beyond doubt. But any rate, regardless of the results, it was fun as all hells!
Congrats to both teams for battles well fought!:hail: :freak: :hail:
Don Maddox
16 Oct 02, 15:40
Good lord, are we going to have to modify the ladder scoring to account for crimes against humanity? A virtual warcrimes tribunal?
The tournament page has been updated. Tim has also notified me that a small error crept into scenario #2. Here is an updated version.
OPFOR proficiencies were at 1%?
:laugh:
Originally posted by Mantis
Actually, with hindsight I can say that the OPFOR team actually pulled out an incredible performance. I've been discussing it with several players on both sides, and there is little doubt that were we to play this round over again, the US team would have a much larger score. (I doubt we could get even close to half the points we have now). We got lucky, and the general lack of experience with this map gave us an edge.
Thanks for the rousing vote of confidence. :(
brevet
Don Maddox
16 Oct 02, 16:56
That's the way it is in real combat too. If the Germans got to "play" Stalingrad over...
Personally, I think that's the beauty of these custom tournament scenarios. The players actually have to react to uncertain events and conditions to some extent. I think that's a good thing. :D
Tim McBride
16 Oct 02, 20:28
Originally posted by Mantis
OPFOR proficiencies were at 1%?
:laugh:
Actually I added a few units at the last minute and forgot to check the Events, which of course get screwed up when you add units into the OOB.
_Tim
Tim McBride
16 Oct 02, 20:29
Originally posted by Mantis
Actually, with hindsight I can say that the OPFOR team actually pulled out an incredible performance. I've been discussing it with several players on both sides, and there is little doubt that were we to play this round over again, the US team would have a much larger score. (I doubt we could get even close to half the points we have now). We got lucky, and the general lack of experience with this map gave us an edge.
That wasn't an engagement scenario, that was a US attacker scenario. Beyond doubt. But any rate, regardless of the results, it was fun as all hells!
Congrats to both teams for battles well fought!:hail: :freak: :hail:
I think the biggest thing that favored the allies IMHO is that they are player #1
_Tim
Siberian HEAT
16 Oct 02, 21:01
OPFOR Overwhelming Defeat.
As I predicted I have no units left. :cry:
FIST played a perfect game. Congrats to him (warcrimes notwithstanding). :laugh:
Major Banned
16 Oct 02, 23:19
Originally posted by ER_Chaser
oh ye.. right. Fist is only a subordinate of the higher command structure of the US army. How could I forget that? ... right. We should hold his direct commander and his organization which Harbored such atrocity responsible as well. In particular, that means the US team and you, sir, Major Catatrophe (urr.. look at thsi guy's name! :PIMP:
Well, but we can settle if you wanna avoid a legal conflict. That way, you should plea guilty and send a check payable to the HEAT relief fund, OPFOR base, CA 91347 with an amount no less than 5 million Afghanistan shields (is it called shields?.. anyway... that is the currency we OPFOR use... :hog: ) to settle the personal suit against Gen. Fist and no less than 5 billion Afghanistan shields to OPFOR development fund (same address, anyway) to settle for the organizational charge against the US team and Major, yourself.
:freak:
And should you plea not guilty, a hearing date will be arranged at the discretion of WarfareHQ.com.
Check your history books, war crimes are only committed by, oh what's that word I'm looking for....um, oh yeah......
LOSERS!
Go Trig Boy, it's your birthday!
:D
:flag: :banana: :flag: :banana: :flag: :banana:
So when do we hear from our worthy opponents on the lineup for the next series? Seems like they're too busy preparing their legal briefs for the Hague:devious: :banana: :D
Major Banned
18 Oct 02, 07:24
Originally posted by Saber
So when do we hear from our worthy opponents on the lineup for the next series? Seems like they're too busy preparing their legal briefs for the Hague:devious: :banana: :D
I've sent e-mail to the opposing dictator. Inquiring to the status of the last remaining game, Tigris vs. Pablo. I have proposed that we rule the game a draw, and move on to the second round with replacement players.
Don Maddox
18 Oct 02, 10:18
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
I've sent e-mail to the opposing dictator. Inquiring to the status of the last remaining game, Tigris vs. Pablo. I have proposed that we rule the game a draw, and move on to the second round with replacement players.
I tend to agree. I need a reply today, otherwise I will advance the tournament to round 2. :OHNO:
Major Banned
18 Oct 02, 22:50
Originally posted by Maddog
I tend to agree. I need a reply today, otherwise I will advance the tournament to round 2. :OHNO:
I did get a reply from Sadman Insane on the status of the Tigris/Pablo match. Pablo has reported a problem with a computer virus. Unfortunately, I got no report of their progress to this point and Sadman Insane has stated that he will be unavailable for this weekend.:bored:
Originally posted by Brevet
Thanks for the rousing vote of confidence. :(
brevet
Awww, don't take it like that. :) I meant it as Maddog says. Look at my own game. I scored an SV. If I loaded it up and played Chuck again, he'd more than likely hand me my head, and post a victory for the US. Some things can only happen to a player once, and that's it. This scenario is one of those things!
:clown:
Major Banned
25 Oct 02, 07:48
I hate to be a pest about this, but another week has gone by with no correspondence on the last game. Maddog, I say we pull the plug on it and move on to Round 2. I have Tzar lined up for my replacement for Pablo. I think Sadman should send his pairings for round 2 in this weekend and we shoot for a Monday start.
ER_Chaser
25 Oct 02, 09:11
Fully agree. It is unfair to waste everyone's time just because of one or two guys. Please, let us move on!
Sadman - make the pairings
Don Maddox
25 Oct 02, 16:38
Round 1 is over. I have computed that last game as a draw. As soon as I receive the pairings for Round 2 we will begin.
Don Maddox
28 Oct 02, 12:07
Okay...
Alf, you can grab the scenario from this thread.
Don Maddox
25 Nov 02, 17:53
I'll have an update of the tourny page tomorrow.
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