Round 1 - Russia at WAR!

[CyberRanger]

The matches for Round 1 (Tannenberg) are now available. You can see them on the web page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) or as a pdf (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/russianatwar.pdf). The pdf has the added advantage of games being sorted by each side, making it easier to find your name when you are the Germans.

I few more quick rules before we begin:


1. Upon receiving the game file, each file opened will be the one played. Do not reopen a file as a % chance will exist on units reorganizing, reinforcements arriving, and how air battles turn out.
2. Use undo with great caution. IF you DO use it, you should inform your opponent that you have used it and the reason why. In general, the undo should not give you any advantage over the opponent. Use with utmost caution!
3. Saving a turn, then reloading the save to redo a bad combat round or early turn ending is cheating. Don't do it!
4. Turn Air Staff Assistant OFF before each turn and DO NOT turn it on as it effects both sides. Air units will be handled manually.
5. Be sure you are on ADVANCED RULES and NOT on STANDARD RULES at the beginning of each turn.
6. As soon as you receive a turn, let your opponent know you've received it even if you don't plan to play it immediately. We don't want players waiting days (weeks!) for turns that were lost in the mail.
7. Use the OPART 300 executable (thx Mantis!)
8. Have a helluva great time!

[CyberRanger]

One more item. To find an opponent's email address, click on his name on the player list (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds).

[Tiberius]

I'm assuming this: http://www.warfarehq.com/archives/showthread.php?t=124
is the scenario we should use?

[Bdr.Mallette]

Hello,

I think I might misunderstand the layout of the tourney.
Am I playing 4 matches the first round?

[CyberRanger]

I'm assuming this: http://www.warfarehq.com/archives/showthread.php?t=124
is the scenario we should use?
Correct ... see the top of this page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1) which also has a link to the round 2 scenario.

[CyberRanger]

Hello,

I think I might misunderstand the layout of the tourney.
Am I playing 4 matches the first round?

I knew that pdf would cause confusion. :nuts: No, you are playing two games. The two columns are the same just sorted differently to help you find your name when you are the Germans or the Russians.

So in this match, you are Russian: Bdr.Mallette Cesar

In this one, you are German: JoeBob Bdr.Mallette (yeah, it sucks ... good luck!)

[Mantis]

Additionally - play the games using the OPART 300 executable, gentlemen.

[Djarnis]

A little confusion
Here(http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/russianatwar.pdf)it states that im going to play foggy as russian and evil_adder as german.

Here (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) im playing foggy as russian but evil_adder is playing foggy as russian?
I have only one match registered here: (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds)

Hope you can clear it up, thx.

[nemo]

Great!
Laszlo, expect my turn as Russian no later than tomorrow evening. Rodney, fire away yours whenever you're ready!

Game on and best of luck :)

[Polynike]

to my tourney opponents mr clark and bulldozer ill be out of town monday to friday as ill be watching the mighty manchester untied play in the champions league. ive sent my turn 1 as russians. normal service should be resumed next saturday.

[Polynike]

heres turn 1 mrclark having probs with ur maill address
polynike

[CyberRanger]

A little confusion
Here(http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/russianatwar.pdf)it states that im going to play foggy as russian and evil_adder as german.

Here (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) im playing foggy as russian but evil_adder is playing foggy as russian?
I have only one match registered here: (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds)

Hope you can clear it up, thx.

You are the Russians vs Foggy and the Germans vs Evil_adder. In the evil_adder vs foggy match, I made a mistake! It should have been Djarnis (Russian) vs Foggy (German). The pdf IS correct and I've fixed the web page. (That's what I get for doing the web page at midnight!)

On the web page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds), the Russians are always listed first. I've added another set of column headers to help make the pdf clearer (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/russianatwar.pdf).

[CyberRanger]

Turn 1 down range to fulcrum!

(If you have trouble with anyone's email address, feel free to start a new thread with the turn attached).

[mr_clark]

heres turn 1 mrclark having probs with ur maill address
polynike

Yeah I know sorry! have new account set up for that now

clark_pbem@web.de

will answer AFAP

[Dicke Bertha]

To my opponents: for the tourney I attach a short price list:
Disbanding of Russian infantry divisions:
Normal front rate: 5 USD
Opponent panic decision rate: 8 USD
Using Russian artillery units as scouts and leaving them well forward, ripe for destruction: 10 USD
Total surrender of Russian forces: 50 USD, or two cases of Bitburger Pils.
Above prices can be subject to alterations. Typical factors affecting prices: Rough terrain +10%, Good Supply +15%, previous deliveries of two cases of Bitburger Pils -50% at least, abundant numbers of hot chicks calling and distracting me -95% (heavy rebate due to low probability!) ;)

BlackRider, I'll send you my first turn asap, good luck to everyone, and thanks to WestPointer!

[RavenStrike]

Brent ....

dannybou and I are set up to face each other in round 1 both ways. Is this correct before we start?

[Bdr.Mallette]

Turn 1 sent to Cesar.
Set to impact 1.5 V.T. -50
Charge 7, HE quick
Fire
:D

Bomber

[Djarnis]

You are the Russians vs Foggy and the Germans vs Evil_adder. In the evil_adder vs foggy match, I made a mistake! It should have been Djarnis (Russian) vs Foggy (German). The pdf IS correct and I've fixed the web page. (That's what I get for doing the web page at midnight!)

On the web page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds), the Russians are always listed first. I've added another set of column headers to help make the pdf clearer (http://www.warfarehq.com/toaw/russianatwar.pdf).

Ok thx for the clarification.

Turn 1 send to foggy, plz be gentle.

[Mantis]

Now I'm jealous... :cry:

I know by names that there are a few noobs in the tourney. Please feel free to contact me for a bit of advice; I can't participate, but I'd love to help out if I can add something to the experience for the more inexperienced players!

[CyberRanger]

Brent ....

dannybou and I are set up to face each other in round 1 both ways. Is this correct before we start?

Crap! How the hell did I miss that??? Okay, let's swap.

Brevet ... you'll play the Russians vs RavenStrike as the Germans.

dannybou ... you will play the Russians vs me as the Germans.

[mr_clark]

Now I'm jealous... :cry:

I know by names that there are a few noobs in the tourney. Please feel free to contact me for a bit of advice; I can't participate, but I'd love to help out if I can add something to the experience for the more inexperienced players!

OK so help me!!! :)
Well, some hints on Tannenberg would be nice as I never ever played the scenario before and therte are lots of units...

[nemo]

OK so help me!!! :)
Well, some hints on Tannenberg would be nice as I never ever played the scenario before and therte are lots of units...If you haven't been there yet, you may find some useful information in Wespointer's AAR (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=7126) for this very game.
When every smart move fails, come back to basics : klotzen, nicht kleckern! ;)

[dannybou]

Crap! How the hell did I miss that??? Okay, let's swap.

Brevet ... you'll play the Russians vs RavenStrike as the Germans.

dannybou ... you will play the Russians vs me as the Germans.

OK got you!!

[Macnab]

Turn 1 sent to Raven07 ,await reply, any postla issue please post here ;)

[JAMiAM]

Well...if there are no further line up changes, I suppose that it's time to get down to my bloody business...

[Brevet]

Crap! How the hell did I miss that??? Okay, let's swap.

Brevet ... you'll play the Russians vs RavenStrike as the Germans.

dannybou ... you will play the Russians vs me as the Germans.
10-4

[CyberRanger]

10-4
Good, I believe that settles the matches for round 1.

[CyberRanger]

OK got you!!
Gents ... dannybou and I are already at turn 4! Keep it coming, you nasty czarist!

[nemo]

Both German and Russian turn #1 sent :)

[Kraut]

soviet turn 1 sent, doing german turn 2 right now :)

[Dicke Bertha]

Easy boys, take it easy, if you eat it all now, there'll be nothing left for Christmas... :)

2x 1st turns fired away!

[nemo]

Easy boys, take it easy, if you eat it all now, there'll be nothing left for Christmas... :)
Remember, we're addicts - we need more, more, more, more!!! :smoke:

[CyberRanger]

Remember, we're addicts - we need more, more, more, more!!! :smoke:
That's right! I needed the extra time to practice Nordic Light!

[Kraut]

Remember, we're addicts - we need more, more, more, more!!! :smoke:

I think the next tournament should be DNO, followed by Braunschweig and good old GiO as a finisher. :smoke: Oh, and maybe a quick FitE to get the big picture impression as dessert :D

[Dicke Bertha]

Kraut, I sense a lack of grandeur here... :devious: Why not aim for soemthing really big, like an exhaustion tournament of Europe Aflame. Last man standing... :laugh:

[Foggy]

No - even better - how many turns of Arracourt 44 can be completed in a limited time - can I have Raver as an opponent :eek:

[Triaxe]

Turn 7 recieved from JAMiAM and response sent out. Good luck to all!

[Siberian HEAT]

I think the next tournament should be DNO, followed by Braunschweig and good old GiO as a finisher. :smoke: Oh, and maybe a quick FitE to get the big picture impression as dessert :D

We could start it, and our children could finish the tournament for us!

:D

[Bdr.Mallette]

turn 3 sent to Cesar.
waiting turn 2 from JoeBob.

Russians are going to take some skill when attacking. Geeeez, what, do they have millions of people to spare or sumthin'???

[JoeBob]

T2 as Russians sent to Bdr Mallette.

Still waiting for T1 from Mr_Clark (okay it's only Monday...)

Maybe I should have "hot-seated" this one before diving in. :eek:

[fulcrum]

Russian turn 2 and german turn 1 sent.... :cheeky:

[viridomaros]

both game on its way good luck to all :nuts:

[laszlo.nemedi]

We could start it, and our children could finish the tournament for us!

:D

Lol... :D

Well, I remember a scenario with many (500 turns or more)...

[laszlo.nemedi]

Nemo:

I got it!

[nemo]

Nemo:

I got it!Perfect! ;)

Edit : now, I would be more than grateful if someone could delete user #2882 (i.e. my former nemo account from ACG): I think that could allow me to receive PMs again :D

[Mantis]

User 2882 deleted, and PM sent to your account to test the changes.

There is also a user called Nemo2, is that you as well?

Hope this fixes things for you! ;)

[laszlo.nemedi]

Perfect! ;)

Edit : now, I would be more than grateful if someone could delete user #2882 (i.e. my former nemo account from ACG): I think that could allow me to receive PMs again :D

You want to erase your past? No way! :D

[nemo]

User 2882 deleted, and PM sent to your account to test the changes.

There is also a user called Nemo2, is that you as well?

Hope this fixes things for you! ;)It works, PM sent back! Thanks indeed!
As for nemo2, let's call him a distant relative but no, it's not me, my personality isn't that split :)

[nemo]

You want to erase your past? No way! :DNo, I'll rather erase your Huns from eastern Pomerania :D

[laszlo.nemedi]

It works, PM sent back! Thanks indeed!
As for nemo2, let's call him a distant relative but no, it's not me, my personality isn't that split :)

An another collective, and I have to fight them in the RaW tourney...

[laszlo.nemedi]

No, I'll rather erase your Huns from eastern Pomerania :D

Lol it is an unbalaced scenario, so you don't have a chance :D

[mkqest]

Where is the Nordic Light scenario at? I have never played this one before.

[CyberRanger]

Where is the Nordic Light scenario at? I have never played this one before.
Tourney Home Page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#).

[mr_clark]

T2 as Russians sent to Bdr Mallette.

Still waiting for T1 from Mr_Clark (okay it's only Monday...)

Maybe I should have "hot-seated" this one before diving in. :eek:

Sorry will give you a turn tomorrow

[Siberian HEAT]

Cybergeneral, I had to use your email address from the Blitz, as the one on WARS seems to be defective. :D

[Panzerpelle]

Where is the Nordic Light scenario at? I have never played this one before.
If you send me a mail a can send you the lastest version of the the scenario. It is as ready as it can be and I will post it soon in the archieve.

[JAMiAM]

If you send me a mail a can send you the lastest version of the the scenario. It is as ready as it can be and I will post it soon in the archieve.
Uhhh...let's make sure that we only have ONE version of this scenario floating around, and that everyone is using it, when it comes time to play that in the tournament.

[CyberRanger]

Uhhh...let's make sure that we only have ONE version of this scenario floating around, and that everyone is using it, when it comes time to play that in the tournament.
Yes, for sure! The tourney version will be version 2, which has not yet been officially released.

[Panzerpelle]

Yes, for sure! The tourney version will be version 2, which has not yet been officially released.
If there are some of you who are intersted in playtesting the Beta version to check up for any bugs I would be happy...Its very sad when the apear later in the real play siuation. I am pretty sure that any makor bugs are cleared out but it is the small ones you tend to miss. I will not post the scenario in archieve unitil I am sure it works 100%. Hopefully thoose who playtest it will delete the copy and download the final version for the tournament.

[mr_clark]

OK, my both first turns are away now...

[CyberRanger]

Has anyone not been able to contact his opponent?

[17poundr]

If there are some of you who are intersted in playtesting the Beta version to check up for any bugs I would be happy...Its very sad when the apear later in the real play siuation. I am pretty sure that any makor bugs are cleared out but it is the small ones you tend to miss. I will not post the scenario in archieve unitil I am sure it works 100%. Hopefully thoose who playtest it will delete the copy and download the final version for the tournament.
How will the beta be as far as the pc 'crashing' is conserned? Or is that a bad dream these days, back in 96 beta gaming crashed my pc...

[Panzerpelle]

How will the beta be as far as the pc 'crashing' is conserned? Or is that a bad dream these days, back in 96 beta gaming crashed my pc...
Its a beta scenario...so it will surly not crash your computer...

[Siberian HEAT]

Has anyone not started both of their games? Everyone should be off and running by now.











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[KG_RangerBooBoo]

I was out of town most of last week and just got my computer out of the shop but I will have both turns out by tonight or tomorrow.

[Bdr.Mallette]

Up to turns 5 and 7 against opponents.
Things proceeding accordingly.

:D

[Siberian HEAT]

I want to propose a change to the tournament scoring for all 3 games. This is based on what I have always felt was an unfair aspect of tournament play in TOAW. Instead of variable turn endings for all of us, I want to insure we are all on the same playing field and have a set turn for the scenarios to end.

Tannenberg is supposed to end on turn 13. HOWEVER, it could go longer. When we are all supposed to be competing against a broad field, this could give some people an undue advantage with extra time. It would be like spotting some Olympic swimmers an extra second or two randomly. :D

I would like to arrange the following procedure/rules modifications.

1. Tannenberg ends after the German completes turn 13.
2. If the game does not end after German turn 13, send file to Russian player, who will then score the game after opening his turn [without moving any units]

This should insure a level playing field for all combatants. If you have any questions or concerns, post them here.

[CyberRanger]

2. If the game does not end after German turn 13, send file to Russian player, who will then score the game after opening his turn [without moving any units]
After we discussed this earlier today, I wondered if this would still be the same as true turn 13 ending. If the Russian opens turn 14, will the bookkeeping phase (replacements) change the score from what a real turn 13 ending would have been?

[viridomaros]

i'm pretty sure the score would change due to replacements affecting losses penalty

[CyberRanger]

I want to propose a change to the tournament scoring for all 3 games. This is based on what I have always felt was an unfair aspect of tournament play in TOAW. Instead of variable turn endings for all of us, I want to insure we are all on the same playing field and have a set turn for the scenarios to end.
...

I would like to arrange the following procedure/rules modifications.

1. Tannenberg ends after the German completes turn 13.
....

This should insure a level playing field for all combatants. If you have any questions or concerns, post them here.

We WILL end each scenario on the anticipated last turn. For Tannenberg that means the scenario is over when the German's complete turn 13.

Once the German completes turn 13 (and has saved the PBL file) he MUST then save the turn as a .SAL file.

The "Official" end game result comes from the German .SAL file. The German player will then send the .SAL and .PBL file to the Russian opponent. (BTW - sending the .PBL file is just insurance to make sure the Russian player can see the last German moves and make sure nothing untoward went on.)

The Russian will open the GERMAN .SAL file from the end of turn 13 and click on "Play - End Scenario". He will be prompted to enter the Russian password. Once this is entered, the scenario ends, asking the Russian player to create a .PBL file. The Russian should save this file, sending it to the German player so he can see the end result also.


Please post any questions, ASAP! Thanks!

[Siberian HEAT]

I know we have a lot of new guys in this tournament, and I know some of those new guys are going to be paired up against some grizzly old veterans of this game. :D

I would invite all of you vets out there to be open to a debriefing at the end of the game, should your opponents be interested in learning a few tips about how they did. Likewise, I invite you new guys to look on this as an accelerated learning program - and a great way to get some insights into how to better play this game system. It does take a while to get the hang of things...



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[CyberRanger]

The Kaiser is pleased to report that WP has earned an OV (+328) against the Czarist forces of Dannybou!

[I'm working on an on-line way for each player to report his score and see the tourney standings calculated real-time. I hope to finish it tomorrow, more likely on Wednesday.]

[Kraut]

I would invite all of you vets out there to be open to a debriefing at the end of the game, should your opponents be interested in learning a few tips about how they did. Likewise, I invite you new guys to look on this as an accelerated learning program - and a great way to get some insights into how to better play this game system. It does take a while to get the hang of things...


Both my games are still in the early phase, but from how the scenario feels so far I'll be most interested in AARs from a game with a soviet victory... do they really have a chance? :cheeky:

[JAMiAM]

Both my games are still in the early phase, but from how the scenario feels so far I'll be most interested in AARs from a game with a soviet victory... do they really have a chance? :cheeky:
Yeah...they have a chance...to be beaten. They have a chance to be badly beaten. Or, they have a chance to have their asses whupped like a redheaded stepchild... :laugh:

[JAMiAM]

Besides...technically, at Tannenberg, they were simply Russians, and not Soviets... ;)

[CyberRanger]

Yeah...they have a chance...to be beaten. They have a chance to be badly beaten. Or, they have a chance to have their asses whupped like a redheaded stepchild... :laugh:
As the Russians, the goal should not be victory but avoiding defeat!

[Kraut]

As the Russians, the goal should not be victory but avoiding defeat!

Yeah, figured that out, playing as the germans it's: "Chop, Chop, Kill, Kill, Advance, Advance, Kill some more, Humiliate, Kill Kill Kill" (and I've only just played turn 04) while for the russians it's more like: "Oh my god, Oh my god, what am I going to do, Where to hide, Need reinforcements, Run! Run!" :laugh:

[KG_RangerBooBoo]

Yeah...they have a chance...to be beaten. They have a chance to be badly beaten. Or, they have a chance to have their asses whupped like a redheaded stepchild... :laugh:

Please no child beating here! We prefer the term "beaten like a rented mule".

[Siberian HEAT]

I can't recall ever working this hard to maintain a draw. As the Russians I've sent my medical staffs and women's auxillaries up to the front line to try to hold off those Germans. A few turns to go...and still too close to call. In my game, victory as the Russians always was an illusion. :cheeky:









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[laszlo.nemedi]

Yeah...they have a chance...to be beaten. They have a chance to be badly beaten. Or, they have a chance to have their asses whupped like a redheaded stepchild... :laugh:

Yeah, would be interesting any Russian victory... Jam I expect you one of it... :devious:

[nemo]

Yeah, would be interesting any Russian victory... Jam I expect you one of it... :devious:Don't be impatient, simply wait for the end of our game... :D

[laszlo.nemedi]

Don't be impatient, simply wait for the end of our game... :D

Lol :D :p :hush:

[Eric Weider]

1 turn to go as the Russians...thank god!...and I am losing a marginal defeat.
I hope I can hold on to this minor humiliation!!

[mr_clark]

Besides...technically, at Tannenberg, they were simply Russians, and not Soviets... ;)
Well, Czarist Russian... ;)

[mr_clark]

Well, next turns on the way out to Polynike and JoeBob

[laszlo.nemedi]

1 turn to go as the Russians...thank god!...and I am losing a marginal defeat.
I hope I can hold on to this minor humiliation!!

Wow, sounds good :D

[Dicke Bertha]

:o ... anyone else having a little trouble as the Germans?

Someone please tell Furocity that he is supposed to bleed and suffer and lose, not charge! :eek: Anyone knows the best defense tactics for Königsberg? :cheeky:

[nemo]

Turn 4 sent to both opponents. Still on the offensive in both games...:devious:

[Dicke Bertha]

...say the joy that lasts forever.... :devious:

[Bdr.Mallette]

I dont feel so bad now hearing other people having trouble with the russians. The first turn was the key. Take then hold hold hold, god dammit!! they evaporate fairly quickly tho'.
Currently on turns 6 and 8. Too close to tell in both of them.

:D

[Siberian HEAT]

The Russians have fairly limited offensive capabilities, especially in the front end of the game. I had a couple key brigades evaporate in their first engagements, which unhinged my entire defense. Any thoughts of striking back at the advancing Germans went right into the toilet.

[Mantis]

Once the German completes turn 13 (and has saved the PBL file) he MUST then save the turn as a .SAL file.
PM sent to Brent.

[Mantis]

1 turn to go as the Russians...thank god!...and I am losing a marginal defeat.
I hope I can hold on to this minor humiliation!!
That's actually going to be a 'winning' result, Eric!

[Mantis]

:o ... anyone else having a little trouble as the Germans?

Someone please tell Furocity that he is supposed to bleed and suffer and lose, not charge! :eek: Anyone knows the best defense tactics for Königsberg? :cheeky:
:laugh:

Don't feel bad, DB, there is always a few that go this way in every round, it never fails. ;)

[dannybou]

Well I got humiliate as the Russian player by Westpointer. My offensive lasted a whole 3 turns then that was it.

[Mantis]

Alot of Russian death is expected in this one, I imagine! ;)

[Bdr.Mallette]

I'm actually scoring a sig. victory as the russians going on turn 8. If I can hold, i'll be okay.No?

[Eric Weider]

1 turn to go as the Russians...thank god!...and I am losing a marginal defeat.
I hope I can hold on to this minor humiliation!!

ARGHHH!!!!!! On last turn went from a Minor Loss to an Overwhelming Loss!!!! Oh The Horror!

[CyberRanger]

ARGHHH!!!!!! On last turn went from a Minor Loss to an Overwhelming Loss!!!! Oh The Horror!
Bummer ... did you loss a couple vp hexes on the last turn?

Here is the end game file between me and dannybou for anyone that wants a peek. I imagine we will see a number of them that look like this.

[CyberRanger]

I'm actually scoring a sig. victory as the russians going on turn 8. If I can hold, i'll be okay.No?

That's very good going into turn 8!

[Siberian HEAT]

Bummer ... did you loss a couple vp hexes on the last turn?

Here is the end game file between me and dannybou for anyone that wants a peek. I imagine we will see a number of them that look like this.


Brent, you have the .PBL - I think you meant to upload the .SAL. :D

[CyberRanger]

Brent, you have the .PBL - I think you meant to upload the .SAL. :D

It's the end of game pbl. You should be able to open it with no password and then flip between player one and player two.

Yes?

[Siberian HEAT]

Ahh, I see how it works. Never encountered that end of game .PBL since I've started playing this game. Learn new stuff all the time. :D

Now, tell me...how the *bleep* were you able to keep your Germans in almost complete supply? Most of your Northern units dont' even look like they were a part of the battle! They are 100% supply.

:cheeky:

[dannybou]

Ahh, I see how it works. Never encountered that end of game .PBL since I've started playing this game. Learn new stuff all the time. :D

Now, tell me...how the *bleep* were you able to keep your Germans in almost complete supply? Most of your Northern units dont' even look like they were a part of the battle! They are 100% supply.

:cheeky:

Easy, he had me for an opponent!! :D

[CyberRanger]

...Now, tell me...how the *bleep* were you able to keep your Germans in almost complete supply? Most of your Northern units dont' even look like they were a part of the battle! They are 100% supply.

By the end of turn 4, I controlled Gumbinnen, Stalluponen (both in the north), and Suvalki (in the center). That satisfied my goals for that portion of the battlefield. I made my lines as staight as possible to prevent flanking attacks against it, then dug-in. My opponent didn't really try to break my lines, hence the high supply levels of those troops. I think the pressure I put on him in the south caused him to send more troops down there instead of trying to break me in the north.

[CyberRanger]

Easy, he had me for an opponent!! :D
LOL! You did a fine job. This is a tough scenario for the Russians; you weren't helped by drawing someone who'd played it before.

:nuts:

[Eric Weider]

Bummer ... did you loss a couple vp hexes on the last turn?

Here is the end game file between me and dannybou for anyone that wants a peek. I imagine we will see a number of them that look like this.

Yes...on the very last turn he took Lautenburg and Wallenburg... :OHNO: oh what shame I brought on myself!!

[CyberRanger]

Please be sure to check out the 2nd post of this thread:

http://www.war-forums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18473

[nemo]

I'll be abroad for the rest of the week and will resume normal gaming service sunday evening (GMT+1 here). Rodney and László: I'll be back :D

[Furocity]

feint left and go right, or was it feint right and go left, oh heck just go straight up the middle...

[Bdr.Mallette]

Nope, you had it right, feint left and go right.

[CyberRanger]

Yes...on the very last turn he took Lautenburg and Wallenburg... :OHNO: oh what shame I brought on myself!!
You were holding Lautenburg until the last turn??? How'd you manage that? Did you shift both Russian armies south-west?

[viridomaros]

my game with the german is over with a marginal victory for me
given the difficulty for the russians in this scenario i think my opponent did quite a good job. I could have taken sulvaki on the last turn if i had not push the number of rounds too far but result would have been somewhat too severe, i think a marginal victory for me mirror what happened during the game.

viridomaros: marginal victory +137

[CyberRanger]

my game with the german is over with a marginal victory for me..
viridomaros: marginal victory +137

Be sure to post your score (and your opponent needs to do the same) on the tourney page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds).

[mr_clark]

well, turn three away to Polynike... (geez all others have finished :) )

[viridomaros]

Be sure to post your score (and your opponent needs to do the same) on the tourney page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds).
i might have made a mistake by doing it twice it seems both scored were added, i did it twice because i wasn't sure that the site had took the first attemps sorry about this :hail:

[Siberian HEAT]

i might have made a mistake by doing it twice it seems both scored were added, i did it twice because i wasn't sure that the site had took the first attemps sorry about this :hail:

Congratulations...you have just crashed the entire scoring system. :D

[CyberRanger]

i might have made a mistake by doing it twice it seems both scored were added, i did it twice because i wasn't sure that the site had took the first attemps sorry about this :hail:

Silly soldier ... you scored your Kharhov game too! I changed that score back to zero, so now you are showing just 137 as your total points (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) (for your Tannenberg game.)

BTW - one nice feature of the system is that you can go back and change your score if you make an error.

[viridomaros]

Silly soldier ... you scored your Kharhov game too! I changed that score back to zero, so now you are showing just 137 as your total points (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) (for your Tannenberg game.)

BTW - one nice feature of the system is that you can go back and change your score if you make an error.
once again sorry :confused:
:hail:
next time i will edit it myself, but i didn't notice i had score my game of kharkov as well. I thought i had scored tanenberg twice and so i had no idea on how to change that. Thanks for helping me :cheeky:

[CyberRanger]

.. Thanks for helping me

Glad to help. Actually, you get the prize for being the first player to enter his own score! Good to know it works for someone besides me.

[Dagger5]

Spartacus are you out there? Standing by for your first turn!

[mr_clark]

turn 3 out to JoeBob, turn 4 by Polynike received

[Bdr.Mallette]

i'm currently on turns 7 and 10, german, russia respectively.

[Dicke Bertha]

T3 and T8 received! Hope to send both replies out later tonight. Great little scenario!

[laszlo.nemedi]

T5 and T6

[Tiberius]

Looks like Triaxe and I will finish up before I go to Thailand tonight. We bounced 4 turns each Fri night and Saturday. Only one more to go. No contact with Satisfaction for 5 days. We are on turn 4 I recall. I'll be back on the 1st Dec.

I have an idea for how to handle drop outs. First: drop outs are out of the tourney with OD in that game. Next their opponents score an overwhelming victory for the ladder and some bonus points for the tourney but are re-paired with another guy in the same situation in order to get complete game scores. (and of course get credit for the new game as well.)

[nemo]

Back and running with turns 6 and 7 out to my opponents.

[Triaxe]

My game with Tiberius is over and what a great battle. At first it was push, push, push and then it was run, run, run, for me as the Russians. In the end he was sitting right next to 110 victory points and took some heavy losses on his last turn but the end of game saved me. Final point total for me as Russians was -66. Good game Tiberius!

[viridomaros]

good job triaxe :clap:

[mr_clark]

Well, turn 4 out to Polynike, waiting for JoeBob's reply...

[CyberRanger]

My game with Tiberius is over and what a great battle. At first it was push, push, push and then it was run, run, run, for me as the Russians. In the end he was sitting right next to 110 victory points and took some heavy losses on his last turn but the end of game saved me. Final point total for me as Russians was -66. Good game Tiberius!

Both sides need to be sure to enter the points earned. Go to:

http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds

Scroll down to the rounds, find your match, and click "Edit Score" after your name. (Triaxe, I see you already did - thanks!)

[CyberRanger]

Spartacus are you out there? Standing by for your first turn!

According to my discussions with Spartacus, you should now have turn 1. Yes?

[Dagger5]

Yes I do. Thanks!

[laszlo.nemedi]

turn 8 completed against Nemo.
I like this "balanced" scenario (I am German in this pairing)... :p

[nemo]

turn 8 completed against Nemo.
I like this "balanced" scenario (I am German in this pairing)... :pThat's the kind of balance I'd like to impose on Rodney (my Russian counterpart in my other pairing) but, strangely enough, he seems reluctant to accept it :D

[nemo]

Turn 9 out to László, turn 11 to Rodney...

[JoeBob]

Turn 10 out to Bdr Mallete as Russians (sitting at a draw), still waiting for a response from Mr_Clark after sending out turn 3 as Germans sometime ago...

Mr_Clark am I using your correct e-mail address? :hmmm:

[laszlo.nemedi]

turn 9 and only 213, getting nervous seeing Siberian's result... :surprise:

[dannybou]

One game was completed and the second is a turn away from being completed. I will have been destroyed by both my opponents so hopefully in the next round I will be more of a challenge. :D

[mr_clark]

Turn 10 out to Bdr Mallete as Russians (sitting at a draw), still waiting for a response from Mr_Clark after sending out turn 3 as Germans sometime ago...

Mr_Clark am I using your correct e-mail address? :hmmm:

Yes the add is right sorry had to write three f*cking term papers alst week and I am still in recovery phase now.

Will shot out all turns (tournaments first) starting late monday early tuesday.

[nemo]

turn 9 and only 213, getting nervous seeing Siberian's result... :surprise:Only 213 say you... I've killed for less an offense than that :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

[laszlo.nemedi]

Only 213 say you... I've killed for less an offense than that :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

Sorry it is not problem of your skills but the unbalance of the scenario. But I am ready for duel anytime :D (scenario, side?)

[Bdr.Mallette]

Only 213 say you... I've killed for less an offense than that :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

213 what?
points?
i have 33! Phuc ewe!!!!! lol


jk mon!

:D

[nemo]

213 what?
points?
i have 33! Phuc ewe!!!!! lol


jk mon!

:DThe problem is I have -213 points! :D

[viridomaros]

to westpointer
do i have to start a game against buldozer i didn't receive any reply from you since i replied to you, probably the mail got lost

[CyberRanger]

to westpointer
do i have to start a game against buldozer i didn't receive any reply from you since i replied to you, probably the mail got lost
Hi Pierre - message received. I apologize for the delay but I wanted to make sure all was in order before posting... here it is:


Mkqest has ask to be removed from the tournament.
In Round 1, Viridomaros (as the Russians) will now play bulldozer.
In Round 2, WestPointer (as the Soviets) will now play Mompariglia.
Complete matches available at the tourney home page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds).

[SkyVon]

To my opponents: Sorry for the long delay in getting the turns back to you but after a CPU/MB upgrade I've had to reinstall XP (thanks to a nifty XP "feature") and my game time has been spent getting things back in order. It should be business as usual by Sunday.

[dannybou]

OK I've completed both my games. Ravenstrike beat me in an overwhelming victory as the Russians... yes you've read right, the Russians. :D

[CyberRanger]

OK I've completed both my games. Ravenstrike beat me in an overwhelming victory as the Russians... yes you've read right, the Russians. :D

Hang in there ... the TOAW curve is steep and Don isn't known for being gentle! You had the bad luck of drawing two vets for Round 1.

Both of you will need to record your VP points on the tourney web page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) ... scroll down to matches and find your name for this match, click on 'Edit Score'.

[Mantis]

I hope you draw a couple noobs for round two to help balance it out, Danny! ;)

But I bet you learned a few things, yes?

[dannybou]

Hang in there ... the TOAW curve is steep and Don isn't known for being gentle! You had the bad luck of drawing two vets for Round 1.

Both of you will need to record your VP points on the tourney web page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#rounds) ... scroll down to matches and find your name for this match, click on 'Edit Score'.

Already done.

[dannybou]

I hope you draw a couple noobs for round two to help balance it out, Danny! ;)

But I bet you learned a few things, yes?
Yes I have and hopefully I will give a greater challenge to my next opponents.

[Dicke Bertha]

Only 213 say you... I've killed for less an offense than that :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

:laugh: Just my feelings too! I immediately felt my whole day was ruined... ;)

[17poundr]

Where May One Attain This Scenario? Sorry If If This Is A Stupid Sounding Question, I Have Had My Net Connection Down For Weeks, And Am A Bit Out Of The Picture, Mr Poundr.

[CyberRanger]

Where May One Attain This Scenario? Sorry If If This Is A Stupid Sounding Question, I Have Had My Net Connection Down For Weeks, And Am A Bit Out Of The Picture, Mr Poundr.
Links to each tourney scenario available on the tourney page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1).

[mr_clark]

Well, finally next turns out to Polynike and JoeBob

[Bdr.Mallette]

Just finished as the Germans.

Marginal victory with 152 VPs.

As Russians, Draw with 33 VPs.

:D

[nemo]

All right, both games over by now.
Draw as German with 15 points, overwhelming defeat as Russian with -372 points. Congrats to both my opponents, Rodney and László!

Definitely, you learn a lot playing vets, but it hurts. Time to get some rest, my back's aching :whlchr: :D

[laszlo.nemedi]

All right, both games over by now.
Draw as German with 15 points, overwhelming defeat as Russian with -372 points. Congrats to both my opponents, Rodney and László!

Definitely, you learn a lot playing vets, but it hurts. Time to get some rest, my back's aching :whlchr: :D

thanks nemo for the game

[nemo]

thanks nemo for the gameYou're most welcome, it's been my pleasure László :D

[CyberRanger]

We haven't been able to make contact with Kraut. His two opponents will now face each other:

Cdr Pedersen (Russian) vs plutonico (German)

[CyberRanger]

German OV with 328 points
Russian Draw with 86 points (missed a Russian MV by 1 point)

That still leaves me 230 points behind Siberian Heat. :(

[Dicke Bertha]

T7 and T11 sent. Playing my sides, Hindenburg is a timid incompetent old fart and Samsonov and Rennenkampf superhuman stormtroopers. :crosseye: :confused: Great scenario, but now I'm going to do a good old LONG GiO turn to soothe my nerves, these few turn games are bad for the heart! :shock:

[Bdr.Mallette]

Waiting for turns 4 and 6 for Kharkov 42 Revised.

:D

[laszlo.nemedi]

Just finished the game with Marco. He won (as German). The only funny thing Warsawa was defended only a supply unit in the end :D :p (those cooks are real heros!) :D

[JoeBob]

Felix,

My moves aren't being accepted by your mailbox (must be full, or I've got the address wrong). :eek:

So I'm going to post my German move turn 6 here...

Hopefully we can up our moves to 2X/week to stay on schedule with the other boyz...

Please make sure I have the correct e-mail address (or addresses).

Thanks!

[Foggy]

I've finished w/Eric 1st Round - he scored 131 points MV so
my score is -131 correct? :confused:

[CyberRanger]

I've finished w/Eric 1st Round - he scored 131 points MV so
my score is -131 correct? :confused:

Correct

[laszlo.nemedi]

I've finished w/Eric 1st Round - he scored 131 points MV so
my score is -131 correct? :confused:

:D :D :D

[Bdr.Mallette]

Okay,
for all the future Russian guy dudes(everyone), Take a tip if you've never played Kharkov 42 revised before.
Find threads and such which contain information regarding events that trigger extra Axis units. I will say no more just that I got 'TOAW sharked' by my opponent.
Ahem...cough cough.
I shall endeavour to percivere(sp?)!

bdr. :crosseye:

:D

[Siberian HEAT]

Yes, we had a thread devoted to that very topic. :D

Field intelligence is a priority when playing tournament games...as everyone looks for that extra edge. AAR's, forum threads, and game reports on the ladder for that scenario are all good sources of intel.

:smoke:

[viridomaros]

Yes, we had a thread devoted to that very topic. :D

Field intelligence is a priority when playing tournament games...as everyone looks for that extra edge. AAR's, forum threads, and game reports on the ladder for that scenario are all good sources of intel.

:smoke:
for my part i add playing some training games on both sides, it really helps you to understand how the scenario works

[CyberRanger]

As more games are drawing to a close for Round 1, I want to remind everyone to go to the tournament page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#1) to update your score. BOTH players need to check this!

[Polynike]

not heard from mrclark in awhile. knew he was having some probs a while back. mailed him the other day but no reply..anyone got any info

btw lazlo did u get my kharkov turn 1 as the reds?
polynike

[laszlo.nemedi]

not heard from mrclark in awhile. knew he was having some probs a while back. mailed him the other day but no reply..anyone got any info

btw lazlo did u get my kharkov turn 1 as the reds?
polynike

got it, but need time...

[Polynike]

no problem dude

[JoeBob]

not heard from mrclark in awhile. knew he was having some probs a while back. mailed him the other day but no reply..anyone got any info

Haven't heard from him for almost two weeks. We are currently stuck on turn 6. I think he may be finishing up school for the semester, and has hinted he will have more time during "the holidays". Hope that means we can finish up by the end of the month... :whist:

[mr_clark]

Sorry to all the people waiting for me but at the moment i have a couple of problems transferring my sav files to the internet... I really hope that I can serve anybody at the weekend.

[CyberRanger]

As more games are drawing to a close for Round 1, I want to remind everyone to go to the tournament page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#1) to update your score. BOTH players need to check this!
Along with updating your score, make sure that the game gets reported to WARS. There a few games where looking at the score I think the game is complete but there is no WARS report.

I've added a new feature to the tourney page where the match is linked to the WARS report. Check it out (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#1)! Currently, I link the two once the WARS report is completed ... but soon it will be automagic! :p

(For ladder admins - be sure to try it with admin tools not displaying to see the page without so many extra links.)

[nemo]

Along with updating your score, make sure that the game gets reported to WARS. There a few games where looking at the score I think the game is complete but there is no WARS report.

I've added a new feature to the tourney page where the match is linked to the WARS report. Check it out (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#1)! Currently, I link the two once the WARS report is completed ... but soon it will be automagic! :p

(For ladder admins - be sure to try it with admin tools not displaying to see the page without so many extra links.) Nice features and a great job :thumup:

[CyberRanger]

Nice features and a great job :thumup:

Thanks!

The automagic part is now done. When you submit your Round 1 game report, be sure to answer "Yes" to the tournament question. You should then see your match listed. By selecting your match, the tournament information will be updated on the tournament page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1) and be reflected on your game report.

[06 Maestro]

Thanks!

The automagic part is now done. When you submit your Round 1 game report, be sure to answer "Yes" to the tournament question. You should then see your match listed. By selecting your match, the tournament information will be updated on the tournament page (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1) and be reflected on your game report.

You are indeed the web master wizard, or is it wizard web master. This is getting better all the time.

[mr_clark]

finally next turns out to my opponents, now we (=I) have to hurry...

[Bdr.Mallette]

where do you edit the players final points for the second round. I keep going back to the tourney home page, but it is not the same as before(weeks ago).

wundrin

:nuts:

[CyberRanger]

where do you edit the players final points for the second round. I keep going back to the tourney home page, but it is not the same as before(weeks ago).

wundrin

:nuts:
Try this:
http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#2
I made a slight error when I updated the program today.

[Bdr.Mallette]

cool.

thx man

[Dicke Bertha]

One game finished, but I am having no luck trying to connect with Furocity for the very last turn. Is anyone else corresponding with him? If so could you point him to his own thread, I've posted my 12th turn there. Thanks. :argh:

[CyberRanger]

One game finished, but I am having no luck trying to connect with Furocity for the very last turn. Is anyone else corresponding with him? If so could you point him to his own thread, I've posted my 12th turn there. Thanks. :argh:
He hasn't logged into the forum since Dec 12. What is the current score in the game?

[Dicke Bertha]

At the end of my T12, it's a marginal vitory for my Germans at 162 points. But I got a mail on Monday from Furocity asking for my T12... I've responded but doubt that he receives my mails... :cry:
Several mails have bounced before...

[CyberRanger]

At the end of my T12, it's a marginal vitory for my Germans at 162 points. But I got a mail on Monday from Furocity asking for my T12... I've responded but doubt that he receives my mails... :cry:
Several mails have bounced before...
okay, let's give him a little more time. Can you email me (if you have it) the sal file from the end of your turn 12?

westpointer AT warfarehq DOT com

[Dicke Bertha]

OK Brent, sent. I am sure Furocity will do all he can to finish this before he leaves, but I was hoping someone had regular contact with him. We'll wait.

[JoeBob]

I think Mr Clark's mailbox is full, as my turns keep getting bounced back to me, so hopefully it will be cool to post it here, for the time being...

Getting awfully close to finishing up the scenario, so I'm trying to keep things moving.

:nuts:

[mr_clark]

I think Mr Clark's mailbox is full, as my turns keep getting bounced back to me, so hopefully it will be cool to post it here, for the time being...

Getting awfully close to finishing up the scenario, so I'm trying to keep things moving.

:nuts:
Strange i had 7mb free... well, got your turn and Polynike's is out.

[Dicke Bertha]

Received T13 from Furocity today, so I'll finish it asap. :D

[Dicke Bertha]

Game finished! Furocity's Russians put up a skilled defense. Masterful delaying action and timely retreats avoided total encirclements and destruction. My Germans won a 169 vp marginal victory! Great game! :smoke:

[mr_clark]

last turn out to JoeBob one more to go with Polynike...

Damn, have lost both games...

[JoeBob]

Game over with Mr_Clark. German OV with 596 points at the end of T13. :devil:

Mr_Clark played a spirited game, but I think he would benefit from some guidance from veteran players on how to play TOAW in a more competitive manner. I will be composing an e-mail to him with some tips, but I'm wondering if we can point Felix in the right direction as far as faqs and threads at WarfareHQ that he would benefit in reading and posting to.

Some links would be great!

[Bdr.Mallette]

I think there is more than he needs a mouse click away, just click into a thread and see where it leads. Of course it would have to be a topical thread.

Do it man, do it!

[mr_clark]

Game over with Mr_Clark. German OV with 596 points at the end of T13. :devil:

Mr_Clark played a spirited game, but I think he would benefit from some guidance from veteran players on how to play TOAW in a more competitive manner. I will be composing an e-mail to him with some tips, but I'm wondering if we can point Felix in the right direction as far as faqs and threads at WarfareHQ that he would benefit in reading and posting to.

Some links would be great!
Well, I am now a little better prepared for the next round, read most of the hint threads and practised a little,too!

At least I had fun playing JoeBob, though it became quite boring a game after turn 9... :p

[CyberRanger]

Gents - please take a moment to double-check your score for Round 1 (http://www.war-forums.com/forums/wfhq-ld-tourney-details.php?id=1#1). I'll soon be closing that round, making the scores official.

[Polynike]

mr clark do you still have the last turn sal to enter the csore ive deleted the mail form my in box a while ago

[mr_clark]

mr clark do you still have the last turn sal to enter the csore ive deleted the mail form my in box a while ago
I guess I should have it give me until tomorrow.

[CyberRanger]

I guess I should have it give me until tomorrow.Thanks for getting the scores in.

I'm un-sticking this thread now. Round 1 is complete! Here are the top ten scores:

plutonico: 748
Siberian HEAT: 644
bulldozer: 616
Dicke Bertha: 540
Saber: 536
JFrederiksen: 477
JoeBob: 447
JAMiAM: 436
WestPointer: 414
RavenStrike: 394

[mr_clark]

Congrats!