CMAK Poll -starting point.

[Palantir]

1. 1940 start with the Italians duh!
2. 1941 in Crete with the Fallschirmjager of course!
3. 1941 in N.A. with the Germans rolling to the Suez.
4. 1942 with the Americans burning their "Torches."
5. 1943 in the "Tunisia" area battling to the finish.
6. 1943 Invading Sicily with Monty & Patton.
7. 1943 in Italy slugging it out, up the boot.

[KG_Norad]

You forgot the option..."Trust NORAD, he's got me covered!" :D

[Palantir]

Is that the motto of your insurance company Mike, or do you sell bed sheets? :p
:laugh:

[The Purist]

Let's start at the very beginning and work our way through the theatre.

[Full Monty]

I'd prefer to start from Rommels arrival in North Africa. I think it would give better continuity and lead to more closely fought battles.

[The Purist]

"I'd prefer to start from Rommels arrival in North Africa. I think it would give better continuity and lead to more closely fought battles."

BAH!! ...and you have the nerve to use a Monty avatar! :D

BAH!!

[Full Monty]

"I'd prefer to start from Rommels arrival in North Africa. I think it would give better continuity and lead to more closely fought battles."

BAH!! ...and you have the nerve to use a Monty avatar! :D

BAH!!
:rifle: :clap: :clap:

[KG_Norad]

Leave it to Monty to want to return to the fields of his greatest glory... :rolleyes: :laugh:

[John Osborne]

Well then let me say, "Lets start when Rommel arrives in North Africa"

[Palantir]

Looks like the early voting is for an "early" start in the AK tourney.

[The Purist]

I cannot believe that people would turn down the opportunity to turn history on its head and WIN battles with the Italians. :rolleyes:

I'm dashed!

Just think of the possibilities!! Why,...why, your victories may be responsible for the creation of a new Roman Empire that leads the Mediterranean world into a new bright future.

Cast your votes for 1940 and keep the Germans "Out of Africa". :thumup:

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[Palantir]

I love it!!
:laugh: :laugh:

The AK crowd already sounds like a fun bunch! :nuts:
:D

[Redwolf]

We had a few Italian in North Africa battles in the RoW4 tourney.

Overall not so good fun because of featurefree terrain (they are farther east than the nicer areas) and I really don't like to play these two- or one-man turret tanks which BFC modeled to not hit anything ever. 10 shots missed around point-black.

In general I think symmetric battles work much better in CM (as in most wargames), and they should include feature that emphasize what CM, which is rich LOS and fully capable vehicles. Everytime BFC tries to model somebody or something handicapped they go overboard.

[BigMik1]

We had a few Italian in North Africa battles in the RoW4 tourney.

True, I played the last one in the tourney and it was great. It was German vs British and it was a nail biter. It seems the RoW4 is over.

BigMik1

[AnewNewbie]

Playing as Italians makes a man out of yer,:nofear: get hard, you wimps.:cheeky:

[The Purist]

Surely, gentlemen, there is more to the pre-German phase in north Africa than Sidi Barrani and Beda Fomm. There are set piece battles at places such Bardia or pursuit battles along the coast road to Benghazi. There was also a full blooded infantry campaign in Italian East-Africa.

There is plenty of action to be had long before those fancy-pants Wagnerian bum boys in their thigh length black shiny boots carrying varnished riding crops arrive and spoil the fun. :eek:

[Full Monty]

There is plenty of action to be had long before those fancy-pants Wagnerian bum boys in their thigh length black shiny boots carrying varnished riding crops arrive and spoil the fun. :eek:


That's no way to talk about the American army :D

[The Purist]

"That's no way to talk about the American army "

Ewwwwwww :devil:

You're gonna burn in hell for that one FM!!!

Ewwwwww :toast:

[Redwolf]

I still got to warn you that (just IMHO of course), CM doesn't really play well with troops that are both low-quality and low-firepower, and CM doesn't play well with tanks where BFC tried to model very slow speed and bad visibility.

[The Purist]

Ok,... to be serious for a moment.

I am not suggesting that the tournament be based soley on the early part of the war in Africa (1940-41) but rather I am stumping for the initial battle to include the Italians. For example:

Round 1: Bardia or Italian East Africa (Jan-May 41)
Round 2: Rommel's Initial Advance (April-May 1941) or Air Assault on Crete (May 41)
[note: can Italy be modelled as Greec in '41, is the Greek army available?]
Round 3: Gazala (May-Jun 42) or Alamein (Jul- Sep 42)
Round 4: Operation Torch/Tunisia (Nov 42 to May 43) [maybe Lonstop Hill; Dec 1942]
Round 5: Sicily (Jul-Aug 1943)
Round 6+: The Italian Campaign (Sep-Nov 43)[Salerno would be interesting]

[Palantir]

Look out NORAD, you have an eager bunch here!