View Full Version : Twitching out... How about PBEM Sitreps?
I reported 3 games a few days ago, and am totally twitching out to see where it puts me on the ladder. (I generally only play the big ones, so I don't get to report that often!)
I have an Allied victory against Bad JuJu in EA that should be worth a point or two (this completes our mirror games of hotseat play - from now on, all hotseat play will be via PBEM), a rather unenjoyable victory as Iraq in Iran Iraq 84 (I thought I was gonna get totally creamed when I saw the size of those huge Iranian irregulars, but they evapped like nothing at the first sign of a fight), and an OPFOR OV for round 2.
My game with Dan (first ever PBEM TOAW) in EA is almost completed. (Turn 116?) On my last turn, the Axis have moved into 2 hexes adjacent to Moscow, Stalingrad in under Axis control, and pretty much everything I have is a few turns away from converging. The Moscow forces are coming close to being pocketed. Barbarossa hasn't been used.
With Kerry we agreed to try some unconventional strategies in EA. I had decided to forego the Blitz option in favor of the Zigfrid line TO. (Just incase unconventional turned into disaster!) And it went hand in hand with my decision as to where I would tackle the French. A blitz with some serious para action took out the Swiss in 1. I had meticulously planned this one, and had my forces setup for a standard Low Country advance. Units were positioned just right for every single unit I owned to move from a normal position to the Swiss gambit, taking Kerry by surprise.
A bridge bombing campaign and Italians from the south added considerable support. The sheer mass of units through Switz and and the surprise of it hampered Kerry's response, and eventually I was able to maneuver around the line of defence and make some serious headway north unopposed by more than a handful of light units. France fell with light losses, but I'm paying for it elsewhere.
Kerry used several French units in Norway to deny me Narvik. (I attacked and captured Oslo on the first turn of war). With that big 5-5 Brit reserve unit added in, I was not going to get Narvik back without a fight. I overreacted and shipped up ALOT of Korps up there, but was unable to advance towards Narvik, as the RN bombarded the living hell out of my stack. It must have been quite comical from Kerry's perspective, watching the Germans advance, then retreat, then rail up, only to rail back next turn in total indecision... This was repeated a couple times before I finally ate the supply loss and thought to myself 'just wait til France dies...' :cheeky:
He gave me quite a bloody nose in Africa as well, and with the new lowered supply levels, and the hordes of Brits he has dug in, I've had to pull back from the line to an area with better supply levels to get some much needed R&R. About 3 Italian fighter units have evapped. German Korps are being shipped continually. We shall see. I do have the definate feeling however that the balance down there is just right. Lowered supply levels, the rail line so the Brits can reinforce the canal from Ethiopia without expending sea transport points, and then 1500 miles of desert to cross just so I can go at the Russians through another 1000 miles of mountain... This might very well be the last time I go for the southern route. I've contended since I first played this game that that strategy was the be-all and end-all of Axis approaches. I don't think that's the case any longer. Good stuff!
Finland has held off the Russian hordes, and with Norway now under control, that theater should prove interesting. We're on about turn 50.
I'm playing one as the Allies against Matt that is going very well. I have the Finns pocketed and am waiting for the Case Yellow bonuses to end prior to the big nasty... Norway is totally under Allied control, and very heavily defended. (No Scandinavian theatre this game!) Belgium joined right off the bat, allowing a very stiff defence. In Africa, the Italians are being methodically mauled, and without some serious changes down there, I don't think they can hold me off for long.
The German advance into France was going very well, but when the Germans took their pause prior to resuming the offensive, the French counter attack was devastating. Not so much in terms of evapped Kraut units, simply in the fact that pretty much everything he had was right on the front line, and I kept them all so busy that they were probably all going down in supplies and readiness each turn. This was costly in terms of the amount of French I evapped, but well worth it. A few emails back and forth with some advice (I didn't want to play a rout, I really want to get some experience from the Russian end of things - I still haven't had much opportunity there) saw the Germans pull almost everything back from the line, save a fresh Korp to keep me honest, and they are recovering in good order. I expect things will go poorly for the French soon enough.
At least I already have the entire DeGaulle formation in the UK, and the reorg units are gaining strength nicely. I also made a serious tactical blunder in this one... I had decided to make the Canal the Brits top priority. Taking advantage of the rail new situation, I pumped ALOT of strength into Ethiopia, planning to sack them really fast, (iirc, I think I did it in 1?) and rail everything and the dog to the canal in time to beef things up. But the Norway opportunity came up, and was too sweet to resist. I stripped several units from Africa. I became worried that I couldn't hold the canal area against a determined assault without the units in Ethiopia. The Italians had not yet built up in Africa to a huge size, so I decided to play some head games.
I had defended the French/Italian border quite heavily, and began to 'strip' away the defnders, with the hopes of coaxing Matt to DoW with the Italians prior to a huge buildup in Africa. Then although France would pay the price to some degree, the Brits would be in a sweet position indeed for the rest of the war. (A fair trade, I consider!)
Well, I pulled too far back with the French, and although the Germans have lost well over the 30k HRSs we call an average France, and they own not one hex of France on the German/French border, they are starting to swarm through the Alps and head north towards Paris. The reorg units are getting to be about 3-3 or so in size, and I have put up a reasonable wall to stop them, but the damage is done. Still I can live with this one!
I have another EA game going with Raver, but don't have an action report ready to hand, as I'm just trying to get the turn in today.
How about everyone else? :D
Siberian HEAT
10 Jan 03, 17:25
Just so nobody has a super-freak-out (Mantis!) I am a bit behind on game reports as my computer took a dump on me two nights ago. I spent last night rebuilding it, and should be able to update the ladder tonight or tomorrow AM.
:whlchr:
LoL...was it all the pretty lights that burnt out the power supply, or another of the infamous Windows Critical Updates that completely funks up the system because you forgot to turn off the antivirus program before downloading it...;)
Dan Neely
10 Jan 03, 17:53
Maybe his plumbing sprung a leak. otoh that'd be taking a leak, not a dump. GD&R
Dan Neely
10 Jan 03, 18:29
Grin Duck and Run.
One of the problems with being active on a large number of forums is occasionally using something that's not in the local nomenclature. GD&R ;p
Ok, I get it now. Actually, not being much of a chatter (or forum post-er, this is really the only place I frequent; I don't even do the NGs anymore) I find I'm always the last to know these things.
Oh well, idiot moi!
:clown:
Siberian HEAT
10 Jan 03, 18:58
I had a problem because I had to sell my old video card, then put in an ancient video card as a temporary solution (it was like using a VW bug motor in HUMMER)...and once I got my new video card (GF4 4200 128mb!) all the video card drivers got together, had a little fight, and the loser decided to sabatoge my whole OS as it was erased.
Wasn't a system failure, more like a system confuser.
Anyway, I think I am back in business. :crosseye:
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
I had a problem because I had to sell my old video card, then put in an ancient video card as a temporary solution (it was like using a VW bug motor in HUMMER
A hummer in a VW...mmmmn...old memories. And if Teddy'd been driving a Bug, Mary Jo would still be alive (they float).
Oh wait! I wax depraved...you had it the other way around.
Jam, I think you should start up another 10 games or so. You have waaaaaay too much time on your hands! :)
Major Banned
11 Jan 03, 22:51
I'm thinkin, it's time to move on to a new ladder site. It would appear that the Rugged Defense site has what we need. Reat time ladder updates (including games in progress) A full blown scenario depository (complete with player ratings). All of the things that I have seen people whine about wanting on this site. Hmmmm, oddly enough I don't find any of Daniel McBride's scenarios there, nor do I find any links to Matrix's website there.
No lack of quality opponents, in the last three weeks, I have started several games, unlike this website, where people seem more concerned with belly-aching about miniscule details (ie the Steel Panthers mindset) than playing a game. Does anyone play this game anymore, or do you just piss, moan, and whine about the game engine?
And lest we not forget, the censorship of posts that does not progress the kowtowing of the management of this site to The Disgusting Groups website. Let's see, the ladder on TDG is full of negative posts about this website, but yet, rather than show some nutsack and stand up for their rights and beliefs, the management of this website has decided to roll over and take it up the ass, like the ***** they are.
Anothe couple of examples, since Siberian Heat has taken over, not only has the OPFOR Challenge tourney gone in the toilet, but the WW I tourney in the Blitz website has turned out to be a pile of steaming dog dung also.
Don't bother trying to e-mail me, complaining about this post, Brian and Don, fix the problems, show some leadership, and make WarfareHQ.com the leader in wargaming websites it could be. Otherwise, shut down and quit wasting valuable bandwidth that could be better used by sites promoting Brittany Spears blowjob videos.
John Paul
11 Jan 03, 23:28
....never mind i just realized i don't want to be in this conversation.Forget this post:o
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
I'm thinkin...
I think not. At least not clearly. Posting while pissed, is usually a bad idea. If you've got gripes, at least show the courtesy that I know you possess, to air them with a bit more tact. There are several specific things in your post that I think are way off base, and that I'd like to address, but my dinner's already getting cold and I'm trying to get home to eat it...
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
I'm thinkin, it's time to move on to a new ladder site. It would appear that the Rugged Defense site has what we need. Reat time ladder updates (including games in progress) A full blown scenario depository (complete with player ratings). All of the things that I have seen people whine about wanting on this site.
If you feel more comfortable there, then by all means go. To be honest, I'm happy to see that site come back to life. It had been over a year since it was actively administered. I wish the best for all involved there - several of whom are players here, as well. Myself, I'm quite content here. There has been a rather more consistent administrative presence here, and I feel the level of "professionalism" is higher. The pace of change may be slower than some would want, but a slow evolution rather than a fitful burnout (something that I've seen at too many websites) is what I want from my home on the web.
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Hmmmm, oddly enough I don't find any of Daniel McBride's scenarios there, nor do I find any links to Matrix's website there.
I haven't a clue as to what point you're trying to make with respect to Daniel's scenarios not being there. It seems to me to be either completely unrelated, or a poor segueway into what I suspect is the spark that set off this tirade, and indeed, continues to eat at you each time it is brought up (Yes, it really is that obvious to any who have read your posts) - your extreme distaste for any affiliation between this site and Matrix games. I simply cannot believe that the posting of several glowingly positive news postings on this site with respect to Matrix Games on this date and your rant can be mere coincidence.
You have made no secret of your distaste for Matrix games over the time that you have been visiting the site. Some of us have been more in your confidence than others as to the specifics of your past with them, and it is not my place, nor intent to air any of it. However, I would hope that you choose to not demonize everyone who has any dealings with them, on the basis of your past experience. If Matrix is such the devil, isn't pity more appropriate?:D
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
No lack of quality opponents, in the last three weeks, I have started several games, unlike this website, where people seem more concerned with belly-aching about miniscule details (ie the Steel Panthers mindset) than playing a game. Does anyone play this game anymore, or do you just piss, moan, and whine about the game engine?
Did I miss something when I've visited Rugged Defense? Do they even have a forum? I'm ecstatic that you are being kept busy with games there, but is there even a community there? In spite of the occasional (perhaps even because of them) squabble with my fellow gamers here, I find the vibrant community here to be of equal, or greater, importance to the mere game hours logged.
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
And lest we not forget, the censorship of posts that does not progress the kowtowing of the management of this site to The Disgusting Groups website. Let's see, the ladder on TDG is full of negative posts about this website, but yet, rather than show some nutsack and stand up for their rights and beliefs, the management of this website has decided to roll over and take it up the ass, like the ***** they are.
I've had my share of interforum bickering, backstabbing, and troll invasions. In my opinion, the administrators of both this site and TDG should be commended for heading off a clash. Special thanks should go to both Don and Pelle for keeping calm heads during the past few weeks. Our hobby is too small to be so fragmented and provincial. It does nothing to make our case as a viable consumer niche, nor to newcomers to the genre, showing ourselves as petty buffoons rather than a greater community of friendly, and occasionally mature individuals.
As I mentioned in another post, I believe that we should generally have our foolishness left on public display. Thus, I don't usually support the act of censorship. Even that which is entirely within the right of the site owners. I feel it is usually counterproductive to remove what could better serve as a reminder of what happens when we allow our mouths to run faster than our brains. Humility is best learned, when seeing ourselves in reflection, not when a jack boot is on the neck.
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Anothe couple of examples, since Siberian Heat has taken over, not only has the OPFOR Challenge tourney gone in the toilet, but the WW I tourney in the Blitz website has turned out to be a pile of steaming dog dung also.
I find this to be incredibly unfair to those involved in trying to organize tournaments designed not just to inflate players ladder point standings, but instead, to foster communications between players and develop a deeper sense of community between the various players. I know of noone who has worked harder, and more selflessly, at that, than Brian (SiberianHEAT). In my book, an apology is owed on this diatribe.
With respect to the OPFOR Challenge, a further note of thanks should go out to Tim McBride. He has stuck his neck out twice thus far, under brief deadlines and with minimal time allowed for more than the most cursory of checks to put together scenarios for our group to use in the tourney. Admittedly they have suffered due to this lack of prior playtesting, and were not as balanced as had been hoped, before embarking on this tourney. Each of the players should be thankful for the chance to participate in such a "mass playtest" and for his time involved.
Brian and I have been reviewing the last of the OPFOR Challenge scenarios and have found that the playbalance of that one is also lacking. It simply is not ready for primetime. Given some of the grumbling on the parts of the players in the tournament, we are trying to come up with some other choices to finish off the tourney. I can harldy blame Tim for being less than enthusiastic in rushing through another untested scenario so that we can start the final round, only to have to endure the abuse that will inevitably be heaped upon his efforts, should it go out as it is.
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
Don't bother trying to e-mail me, complaining about this post, Brian and Don, fix the problems, show some leadership, and make WarfareHQ.com the leader in wargaming websites it could be. Otherwise, shut down and quit wasting valuable bandwidth that could be better used by sites promoting Brittany Spears blowjob videos.
I won't bother to email you, as you have brought your concerns into the public. There, they should be dealt with. Perhaps other players may feel as you do. Perhaps, they may feel you went overbaord, as I do.
You've taken my side on several occasions Major Catastrophe. Unfortunately, I can't honestly return the favor in this instance. I wish you would bury your hatchet, rather than continue to sharpen it.
Panzerpelle
12 Jan 03, 08:10
I was really hesitating the reply to your post major C. But...I agree with JAMiAM in his comments and I would like You to show some respect for this site and TDGs. You post insults both sites and their members. You are complaining about the censorship on this site and the lack of the same on TDG. Thats not logical. :confused: Now back to scenario design.... :)
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
... sites promoting Brittany Spears blowjob videos.
Links, please. :crosseye:
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
I'm thinkin, it's time to move on to a new ladder site....
Don't worry, you won't be missed. Don't let the door hit u in the arse... :bored:
Owch! What happened here? :o
First of all let me THANK those who run WHQ for VOLUNTEERING their time to operate this site. Obviously some people have forgotten that critical point. :thumup:
I also don't remember anyone here saying that this was the PERFECT site to end all sites- it will always be work in progress as players tastes change.
As far as finding opponents, did I miss a post here from M.C. asking for games? It seems like the first logical step.
And to state the obvious, if players are "discussing game issues" then they must be playing games or they wouldn't be coming up.
I for one happen to like a staff that deems offensive langauge and character assassination to be unacceptable-period.
And as for Siberian's efforts- I think he's doing a great job on the TOAW site. I don't expect anyone to immediately jump every time something is sent here. Weekly updates at a volunteer site is going above the call as far as I'm concerned.
Finally I'm not sure what set off M.C. who has in the past conducted himself as a gentleman gamer, but I hope it was just a bad moment. :halo:
Kerry :(
I don't know what else Don and Brian could be doing for the site. Maybe the Major should start his own site to show us all how it is done.
General Staff
13 Jan 03, 21:50
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
...Let's see, the ladder on TDG is full of negative posts about this website, but yet, rather than show some nutsack and stand up for their rights and beliefs, the management of this website has decided to roll over and take it up the ass, like the ***** they are.
Otherwise, shut down and quit wasting valuable bandwidth that could be better used by sites promoting Brittany Spears blowjob videos.
Forgive my ignorance (maybe my age) but a couple of Qs:
what's 'nutsack'?
What exactly is it that the management of this site, having already rolled over, have decided to allow insertion of 'up the ass'?
Why are they *****es (or why does allowing the above make them so)?
Plus I didn't know that Brittany Spears had moved on to a career in metalworking, so thanks for that piece of info- but then my Mom tells me it's better than what she used to do.
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
Just so nobody has a super-freak-out (Mantis!) I am a bit behind on game reports as my computer took a dump on me two nights ago. I spent last night rebuilding it, and should be able to update the ladder tonight or tomorrow AM.
:whlchr:
The true story of HEAT and his travails with his computer rebuild can be found here
http://www.thedailycamera.com/bdc/city_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2422_1661447,00.html
And if you think that was bad, you should have heard what happened when he changed his sound card...:D
John Paul
13 Jan 03, 22:07
Thats a classic:D
Siberian HEAT
13 Jan 03, 23:04
Originally posted by JAMiAM
The true story of HEAT and his travails with his computer rebuild can be found here
http://www.thedailycamera.com/bdc/city_news/article/0,1713,BDC_2422_1661447,00.html
And if you think that was bad, you should have heard what happened when he changed his sound card...:D
Actually that is not far from the truth...although instead of a gun I used the old "Curly routine" from the 3 Stooges slapping my face over and over...then spinning around on my side while laying on the floor. That's how I usually solve computer problems :D
It is funny though that you found that article from a paper so close to where I live. :whist:
Originally posted by Siberian HEAT
It is funny though that you found that article from a paper so close to where I live. :whist:
Timing, age of the perp, and the location were all too eeriely close. I had to dig a little to make sure it was *not* you, before I posted it...:D
Originally posted by Major Catastrophe
[B]I'm thinkin, it's time to move on to a new ladder site. It would appear that the Rugged Defense site has what we need. Reat time ladder updates (including games in progress) A full blown scenario depository (complete with player ratings). All of the things that I have seen people whine about wanting on this site.
That does sound interesting. I haven't looked at that site in ages, it's always been a graveyard before.
Hmmmm, oddly enough I don't find any of Daniel McBride's scenarios there, nor do I find any links to Matrix's website there.
I can't see what concern that is. Neither affects me in the least. And if Don can make money showing banners of iguana *******s, that honestly wouldn't make a difference to me either.
:love:
(Sorry, some **** just slips out...)
No lack of quality opponents,
I haven't lost yet. And I've never quit a game. I even pulled off honest-to-God SV/OVs in OPFOR. No one in OPFOR got better than a draw in round 2, and several people knew they were dead after the first round, prior to the US even having their turn 1. And I've been involved in close to 2 dozen games since coming here. I don't cheat, I'm totally willing to compromise, and I enjoy chatting with my opponents. No, the sun doesn't shine out of my *ahem*, but I would like to flatter myself by considering myself a worthy competitor. Can't I be? I hope my past opponents would think so.
Dan is our gentleman gamer, with a sterling reputation, and I'll tell you, he's a pleasure ro play with. I've been playing with him for 2 or 3 years now? James and Brian are both class acts, and aside from being prolific, hold very formidable, timetested track records. I've yet to enjoy playing EA with Mark, but he's the Godfather of EA, and I hope to partake of this treat myself someday. Everyone on the board has played (and enjoyed) a game with Raver. Have you ever played with Kerry either? He's great. Maybe it's something about our two personalities, but we've had more issues this game than I've had with all past opponents combined. And it's now at the point where no matter what comes up next I'm gonna do it his way because I'm feeling so guilty for how often he's agreeing to go with my side of the puzzle... ;)
in the last three weeks, I have started several games, unlike this website, where people seem more concerned with belly-aching about miniscule details (ie the Steel Panthers mindset) than playing a game.
Well, I don't know about you, but I've written to T2/Talonsoft before, read many an 'email campaign', but a recent blitz has resulted in serious negotiations between Norm and T2, and members here are directly involved. This is probably the single most important thing (the only thing?) almost anyone could ever do to further this game, for everyone. Even the slightest possibility that we had even a 'slight percentage of something to do with that' is incredible in itself.
Does anyone play this game anymore, or do you just piss, moan, and whine about the game engine?
And lest we not forget, the censorship of posts that does not progress the kowtowing of the management of this site to The Disgusting Groups website. Let's see, the ladder on TDG is full of negative posts about this website, but yet, rather than show some nutsack and stand up for their rights and beliefs, the management of this website has decided to roll over and take it up the ass, like the ***** they are.
Hey, I'm very liberal minded about this kind of stuff. As a matter of fact, it doesn't bother me in the least to tell everyone that since I have constant email back and forth with Don anyways (ala OPFOR), I asked him what was deleted. (I wasn't back from my hiatus yet, and missed it). If it was on the board, again, it would make no difference to me. I'd prefer it was. As long as crap never degenerated into a stupid usenet-style flamewar, it makes for some damned interesting reading! :)
But here's one thing: I >hate< chat. I've been doing this modem stuff since back with a 300 baud on a Commie64 I bought the day they were released. I've sysoped boards, been involved all over the place, and in over 20 years, I've found a place where I can chat my ass off, and have one helluva good time. I've met people that played games that generally bore me (the odd CM'er), but they were always pleasant, and willing to yap about anything. As for the main characters around here, well, we have a blast! And I've yet to see one brat-packer (any BBS folks remember the term?)
The forums entertain the hell out of me, people (like you on occassion) crack me up. Stimulating, adult, intelligent. I'm home, baby!
Don, although I'd vote for Maddog never taking a post off; if he feels he has to to be true to the standards of this board; well then power to him.
Anothe couple of examples, since Siberian Heat has taken over, not only has the OPFOR Challenge tourney gone in the toilet,
Don, I never really knew you much at all before doing OPFOR, but I have to say after all this that I like you. You're a very straightforward guy, and aside from that being being a good quality, it can also be interesting as hell. :) And if wasn't for this particular section, I wouldn't have said boo about this post at all. (But now you're stuck with a novel. See What You get? ;) )
Don't go freaking about OPFOR. There are some serious balance issues in our games, but I'm OPFOR's captain, and from several million emails I can tell you that not one player on my team has any problem with Tim's work, or the idea of this tourney at all. Hey, no, it's not perfect. But the idea was damned good. A custom set of scenarios, donated by a designer that has much better, paid, things to do with his computer time. I wasn't going to even play until I found out that the scenarios are all new. I only like campaign scenarios, and have never played a single NA scenario (so screw Sands tourney, play against some guy that's played the scenario 36 times), and this format is what drew me in.
The idea was great, but execution was flawed. Next time, we get the scenarios in the works much earlier, and have a format where they are playtested in various ways to ensure a good round. No one is ever to blame if a scenario isn't perfect straight-out-the-door. That's probably impossible... So I hold no hard feelings. I know Maddog didn't sit there and go 'I'll trick everyone into playng this big tourney, and then I'll purposely sabotage it by conveniently fogetting to playtest the scenarios multiple times with several players...' We learned. Betcha it doesn't happen again.
As to the time lag, well that's obvious, and to be expected, to some degree. The Christmas season hit, which traditionally fouls up any type of PBEM schedule there's ever been, for any game, and as you've said, there have been several issues about the current format of the tourney. Having been a part of that discussion, and as a matter of fact; out of Maddog, Brian, yourself and me, yours was the proposal for continuing that we finally went on; surely you don't think that those 'that could' weren't doing all they could?
I picked up leadership of this team 3 times during the course of this tourney. Round 2 saw me replace 6 or 7 of my players. We got it done. Your team is going to eat 3 OPFOR OVs for AWOLs. Your the captain. Is that your fault? Of course not! Feces Occurs.
but the WW I tourney in the Blitz website has turned out to be a pile of steaming dog dung also.
Don't bother trying to e-mail me, complaining about this post, Brian and Don, fix the problems, show some leadership, and make WarfareHQ.com the leader in wargaming websites it could be. Otherwise, shut down and quit wasting valuable bandwidth that could be better used by sites promoting Brittany Spears blowjob videos.
Well, I hope you don't get pissed at me for voicing mine, Don. But that OPFOR bit gets me a bit. I've written over 50 mega-page letters back and forth expaining some concepts with players that were a little green, I've walked a newbie through his 3rd ever game. I've written constant updates to the entire crew. I got to help out more players in these short few months than I have in all the time prior. THAT'S cool. Also time intensive. And for all this, I don't have any bad blood a-brewing' because of this tourney.
I think your remark insinuating that Brian's somehow partially reponsible for the tourney having problems right now is totally ********. First off, that 'appontment' put him in very obvious confilct of interest. Secondly, implying that anyone's to blame comes with the caveat that you, too, are equally erroneous. It is a given that since we followed your suggestion of direction in how to complete this tournament, that the powers-that-be are very interested in what you and I say, and are willing to listen.
Now I don't know about you, but I contributed my all to the discussions, and I'm more inclined to think that we did the best with what we had, and we learned alot about this format. I betcha next go 'round this will be smooth sailing!
That said, I hope you decide to stick around. You, too, enrich this place. Don't walk because of something stupid that no one will remember in 2 weeks anyways.
:clap:
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