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Sheik Yerbouti
10 Jan 03, 12:50
I´ve made some attrition divider tests with norandom and toawlog on, and below is information the latter produces during a combat. In this example 2 Soviet 1944 infantry divisions (Inf Div & Inf Div2), one Soviet Sp regiment (Sp Rgmnt) supported by direct fire of artillery brigade (Arty Bde) are attacking with minimize losses againts a fortified German infantry regiment (Inf Rgmnt), which has divisional HQ (Div HQ) support. Infantry regiment has repulsed 3 "softening up" attacks and one full attack already, and there´s 60% of the turn left. This attack will consume 10% more. (TO&E and scenario conditions are taken from D. McBride´s "Götterdämmerüng").

Enjoy (or not)... :smoke:



Begin Soviet Union forces attack on location 10,8.
Soviet Union forces attack location 10,8.
Removing available equipment from combat inventory.
Germany German Formation, Div HQ supports the defense.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Army HQ supports the attack.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Arty Bde attacks.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div attacks.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div2 attacks.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Sp Rgmnt attacks.
3011 kg/min weight of long range fire suppress entrenchment level in location 10,8 by 17%.

Bombardment combat begins
Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt defends.
Defending unit under fire: Inf Rgmnt (attrit: 359)

Smite: Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt, (bombardment), attrition%= 2.
Germany anti armor max shots per target: 2.
Germany anti personnel max shots per target: 2.
Soviet Union anti armor max shots per target: 2.
Soviet Union anti personnel max shots per target: 2.
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Heavy Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Heavy Rifle Squad by Soviet Union weapon.
Heavy Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Heavy MG by Soviet Union weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Heavy MG by Soviet Union weapon.
Heavy MG damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany 81mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Germany 81mm Mortar by Soviet Union weapon.
81mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany 81mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Germany 81mm Mortar by Soviet Union weapon.
81mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany 75mm AT Gun (PAK 97/38).
Potentially effective hit on Germany 75mm AT Gun (PAK 97/38) by Soviet Union weapon.
75mm AT Gun (PAK 97/38) destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Horse Team by Soviet Union weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Horse Team by Soviet Union weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=3)
Weighted direct combat losses: 7%
Check morale: Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt, ouch=65,ouch threshold=50.
Morale check passed (quality or deployment).
End smite...

Attacking unit under fire: Inf Div (attrit: 18)

Smite: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div, (bombardment), attrition%= 5.
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
120mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
120mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
45mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
45mm AT Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Truck 37mm SPAAG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Truck 37mm SPAAG by Germany weapon.
Truck 37mm SPAAG damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 122mm Howitzer.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 122mm Howitzer by Germany weapon.
122mm Howitzer damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer by Germany weapon.
76mm Howitzer damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=8)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL by Germany weapon.
82mm Katyusha SPMRL destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL by Germany weapon.
82mm Katyusha SPMRL destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL by Germany weapon.
82mm Katyusha SPMRL destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
50mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
50mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union AT Rifle.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union AT Rifle by Germany weapon.
AT Rifle damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Truck.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Truck by Germany weapon.
Truck destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Weighted direct combat losses: 8%
Check morale: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div, ouch=77,ouch threshold=50.
Morale check failed (loss tolerance exceeded).
End smite...

Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div breaks off attack.
Attacking unit under fire: Inf Div2 (attrit: 18)

Smite: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div2, (bombardment), attrition%= 4.
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Rifle Squad by Germany weapon.
Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Ineffective fire on Soviet Union Rifle Squad. (taking cover)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Rifle Squad.
Ineffective fire on Soviet Union Rifle Squad. (taking cover)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union SMG Squad by Germany weapon.
SMG Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm AT Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Heavy MG.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Heavy MG by Germany weapon.
Heavy MG destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Gun by Germany weapon.
76mm Gun damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 120mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
120mm Mortar damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 45mm AT Gun by Germany weapon.
45mm AT Gun destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
82mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 122mm Howitzer.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 122mm Howitzer by Germany weapon.
122mm Howitzer damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer by Germany weapon.
76mm Howitzer damaged, sent to replacement pool. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 76mm Howitzer by Germany weapon.
76mm Howitzer destroyed. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 132mm Katyusha SPMRL.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 132mm Katyusha SPMRL by Germany weapon.
132mm Katyusha SPMRL destroyed. (specific_attrit=10)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Katyusha SPMRL by Germany weapon.
82mm Katyusha SPMRL destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
50mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 50mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
50mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union AT Rifle.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union AT Rifle by Germany weapon.
AT Rifle destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Horse Team.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Horse Team by Germany weapon.
Horse Team destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union Truck.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union Truck by Germany weapon.
Truck destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Weighted direct combat losses: 7%
Check morale: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div2, ouch=71,ouch threshold=50.
Morale check failed (loss tolerance exceeded).
Morale check failed (demoralized).
End smite...

Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Inf Div2 breaks off attack.
Attacking unit under fire: Sp Rgmnt (attrit: 18)

Smite: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Sp Rgmnt, (bombardment), attrition%= 4.
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Ineffective fire on Soviet Union SMG Squad. (taking cover)
Germany weapons firing on Soviet Union 82mm Mortar.
Potentially effective hit on Soviet Union 82mm Mortar by Germany weapon.
82mm Mortar destroyed. (specific_attrit=5)
Weighted direct combat losses: 3%
Check morale: Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Sp Rgmnt, ouch=33,ouch threshold=50.
Morale check failed (loss tolerance exceeded).
End smite...

Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Sp Rgmnt breaks off attack.
Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt equipment added to combat inventory.
Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt proficiency raised from 65 to 66.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Arty Bde equipment added to combat inventory.
Soviet Union Soviet Formation, Arty Bde proficiency raised from 77 to 78.

Anti armor combat begins.
Defender anti armor strength: 1028
Attacker anti armor strength: 0
Defender anti personnel strength: 1695
Attacker anti personnel strength: 289
Defender anti armor strength (air): 0
Attacker anti armor strength (air): 0
Defender anti personnel strength (air): 0
Attacker anti personnel strength (air): 0
Defender survivability: 2143
Attacker survivability: 20
Defending unit under fire: Inf Rgmnt (attrit: 0)
Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt escapes attrition (insufficient attack).

Anti personnel combat begins.
Defending unit under fire: Inf Rgmnt (attrit: 289)

Smite: Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt, (anti-personnel), attrition%= 3.
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Heavy Rifle AT Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Heavy Rifle AT Squad by Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Heavy Rifle AT Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Soviet Union weapons firing on Germany Heavy Rifle Squad.
Potentially effective hit on Germany Heavy Rifle Squad by Soviet Union SMG Squad.
Heavy Rifle Squad destroyed. (specific_attrit=4)
Weighted direct combat losses: 1%
Check morale: Germany German Formation, Inf Rgmnt, ouch=9,ouch threshold=50.
Morale check passed (low casualties).
End smite...

Germany forces successfully defend location 10,8.
Germany forces approximate equipment and personnel losses - 4%
Soviet Union forces approximate equipment and personnel losses - 4%
End Soviet Union forces attack on location 10,8.
1 assaults have been resolved.

Mantis
10 Jan 03, 13:50
Holy crap. No wonder when I try to play this on my mum-in-law's p2-266 with 32 megs of RAM it takes forever... :)

JAMiAM
10 Jan 03, 14:04
Scene: Some dimly lit study, the noise of computer fans just below the threshold of the whispering conspirators.

Archbishop JAMiAM: I'm concerned about Acolyte Jyri. He's talking too much.

Robed Kogerman: Will anyone know what he's talking about? They'll just think that he's speaking in tongues again.

Archbishop JAMiAM: We can't take that chance. The secrets of the priesthood must be preserved. You know what you must do...

Robed Kogerman: Yes sir, though it will grieve us...<ominous organ music rises in the background, fade to black>

Sheik Yerbouti
10 Jan 03, 14:21
LOL!

Wait a minute...According to my cryptography manual, that is an invitation for shell-shocking, stress-producing, competitive and ladder-points-giving Götterdämmerung game...I hope...;)

JAMiAM
10 Jan 03, 14:49
If I said "yes", would it make me seem..."easy"...?

Mantis
10 Jan 03, 14:50
James, you ARE easy! (Only 16 games going right now?)

:laugh:

Stauffenberg
10 Jan 03, 15:00
My favorite part of the movie:

"Ineffective fire on Soviet Union Rifle Squad. (taking cover)"

I laughed until I cried.

D.

JAMiAM
10 Jan 03, 15:02
Thanks Shane, though you make being easy sound like a bad thing...;)

Actually, I'm finally getting my queue worked down to more sane levels. A couple of Barbarossa '41 scenarios that come around once in a blue moon (Axis against each of ER Chaser and General Staff). Korea '50-'51, North Koreans against Fading Captain and mirrored games of Tobruk '41 v3.6 against Sapper for the BoL 2002 (which I've been dogging on, and getting terribly outplayed at).

That's all that I've got going in TOAW at the moment, other than slacking by putting off the playtesting of the final scenario of the OPFOR Challenge (collaborating with SiberianHEAT, so that Tim has some feedback in it) and the impending final round of a tourney at the Blitz (Mons '14).

Mantis
10 Jan 03, 15:05
Not too bad, not too bad! That almost sounds reasonable. (Who are you, and what the hell have you done with James? :alien: )

You should go burn 15 minutes and give as a sitrep on that thread I started on this board...

Btw - easy is great - as long as you're not cheap!

:hog:

Sheik Yerbouti
10 Jan 03, 15:25
"Ineffective invitation to James The Cyborg. (taking cover)"

Palantir
10 Jan 03, 16:08
I read this post and,

:surprise: :crosseye: :hmmm:

and as result

:confused:

Should we just say thank you or what here?

Kerry :cheeky:

JAMiAM
10 Jan 03, 16:14
Originally posted by Sheik Yerbouti
"Ineffective invitation to James The Cyborg. (taking cover)"

LoL...actually, I'll take up the glorious banner of world communism and play you again...;)

Sheik Yerbouti
10 Jan 03, 16:20
Originally posted by JAMiAM


LoL...actually, I'll take up the glorious banner of world communism and play you again...;)

That´s the spirit! :thumup:

Sheik Yerbouti
10 Jan 03, 16:22
Originally posted by Kerry
Should we just say thank you or what here?

Just send the usual 100 bucks to my bank account. :bandit:

a white rabbit
11 Jan 03, 03:46
..fine work, any chance to do it for "smoke" ?..all i want to know is who get's "smoked", target or firer..,

..dreaming of toaw-Napoleonic/ACW here..,